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Return-to-Office Plans Amid Employee Resistance
SHRM ^ | 9/13/22 | Multiple articles

Posted on 09/13/2022 7:06:45 AM PDT by 1Old Pro

In June, Tesla CEO Elon Musk demanded that all employees return to their onsite workspaces, according to a leaked e-mail thread. If workers refused, Musk would consider it a resignation.

Again the news today is that the NY Times can't get people back to work. However, I won't post the link.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: returntooffice
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Now that it's done, they are saving big on expenses associated with having facilities running heat/AC and janitorial services, you name it.

Yup. My employer sold off entire buildings after we started WFH.

41 posted on 09/13/2022 7:51:49 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: 1Old Pro

Before Covid I worked 3 days/week in the office. Now I work 1 day/week in the office. A hybrid solution of between 1-3 days in the office is the way to go and the best of both worlds.


42 posted on 09/13/2022 7:55:12 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: 1Old Pro

After the employees get laid off for job abandonment. . . .they can always Learn to Code. . . (grin)


43 posted on 09/13/2022 7:55:32 AM PDT by Salgak (You're in Strange Hands with Tom Stranger. . . .)
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To: MayflowerMadam

There are so many awful things about working in an office:

—Laquisha two cubicles down talking (very loudly) on the phone all day about personal business
—Endless stupid meetings, often called with minimal warning, often on topics that have very little to do with your particular job
—Interruptions of all kinds that disrupt the flow of work
—”Covering” for other folks who “call out”—so your tasks cannot get done
—The commute—life is too short to waste your time on that if it can be avoided

I could go on and on....


44 posted on 09/13/2022 7:55:50 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: z3n

I completely agree that it it works, and a sober analysis is done, that there are many jobs that could done remotely and a company will benefit from it.

In my particular industry, they had been looking at a partial work from home option about a year before COVID landed, and we were well positioned from technical planning, budgeting, and workflow perspectives to begin and expand it.

It was done because the specialties primarily under consideration COULD do a degree of remote work, and it was being looked at as a recruitment tool and life balance improvement.

The point is, my employer had been looking at it from early on as something that could benefit both the employer and employee, analyzed and implemented it with that in mind, rather than having a figurative gun pointed at their heads by employee demands.

In our case, it was a win-win scenario for all involved and had nothing to do with being forced to do so. But circumstances, workflows and conditions are different not only within our industry, but across industries.


45 posted on 09/13/2022 7:56:10 AM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: 1Old Pro

When employees work from home, the work gets done.

When employees work from home, the employees save the money and time otherwise used on commuting.

Without employees in the office, the companies can reduce their office space and save money.

It’s win-win.


46 posted on 09/13/2022 7:56:31 AM PDT by Round Earther
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To: 1Old Pro

I am more productive and work longer hours from home. And I travel frequently. An office space is a waste.


47 posted on 09/13/2022 7:56:46 AM PDT by Solson (DeSantis/Hawley 2024!)
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To: Salgak
they can always Learn to Code

Then they can work from home :)

48 posted on 09/13/2022 7:58:51 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

Just an observation, with all the people apparently working from home out there, how come the traffic still sucks?


49 posted on 09/13/2022 8:01:26 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (4,061,483 users on Truth Social)
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To: 1Old Pro

True but they probably have never and will never be given the chance to work remotely, it’s different when you work remotely and then have it taken away


50 posted on 09/13/2022 8:02:42 AM PDT by srmanuel (C)
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To: SamAdams76
Just an observation, with all the people apparently working from home out there, how come the traffic still sucks?

Probably workers running their errands :)

51 posted on 09/13/2022 8:07:56 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: cgbg

“—Laquisha two cubicles down talking (very loudly) on the phone all day about personal business”

Well, I supervised Edna, a Filipina, who spent hours a day on the phone speaking Tagalog to family and friends. She was receptionist but IGNORED visitors. I discussed with my boss, Director of H.R., but I was told to “stand down”. All I wanted was for her to speak English because it was so damn RUDE clicking away her gibberish — and discussing us (it was obvious).

“—Endless stupid meetings, often called with minimal warning, often on topics that have very little to do with your particular job”

Excruciating staff meetings when my eyes almost got tired from rolling. For every meeting I took a clean copy of “Wonk Word Bingo” to see how long before I scored.

“-The commute—life is too short to waste your time on that if it can be avoided”

That’s one reason we relocated from CA to TN. When Obama’s policies caused DH’s office to close they were going to transfer him to a new location — from Simi Valley to Seal Beach. Two hours each way. Nope.


52 posted on 09/13/2022 8:18:22 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Sometimes when you get to where you're supposed to be, it's too soon.)
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To: SamAdams76
I can speak to that item from a professional perspective:

In major U.S. cities with extensive transit systems, a disproportionate amount of the vehicular traffic on the road falls into two categories:

1. commercial vehicles transporting cargo

2. automobiles driven by workers who need to travel for work during the day

53 posted on 09/13/2022 8:19:01 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: cgbg

“Corporate accounts payable, Nina speaking. *JUST* a moment.....Corporate accounts payable, Nina speaking. *JUST* a moment.....Corporate accounts payable, Nina speaking. *JUST* a moment.....Corporate accounts payable, Nina speaking. *JUST* a moment.....”


54 posted on 09/13/2022 8:20:23 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: qwerty1234

I have one project where working at home is a benefit. It’s an annual 3 week thing that requires extra hours and I can’t afford excessive face to face meetings.

Other than that, I don’t see the point at being at home. A lot of work gets done based on two minute by-the-way conversations that are hard to do over Zoom.

I also have fun at my work place. We are a people industry and I enjoy many of my coworkers. I can only stay in my apartment staring at my computer and being in camera based meetings so much.


55 posted on 09/13/2022 8:21:16 AM PDT by PrincessB
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To: MayflowerMadam
Your experience with Laquisha and Edna speaks to another subtle reason why so many major U.S. companies are pushing employees to come back to the office:

They've learned over the last two and a half years that the employees who are most capable of working from home are predominantly white, and those who do not have the work space and/or equipment and/or technology skills to work from home are predominantly black and Hispanic.

56 posted on 09/13/2022 8:21:33 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: srmanuel

Cube farms and open bullpens significantly impair my ability to get my work done.

I’ve been fortunate enough to have a private office or WFH most of my career.


57 posted on 09/13/2022 8:23:53 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: 1Old Pro

I think what we’re seeing is a return to a, ‘Butcher, Baker & Candlestick Maker’ type of society. (If they don’t starve us out, first!)

We’re ALL going to eventually be freelancers or owner-operators.

Well, except for me. I’m NEVER going back to outside employment, though I’m not against a few ‘side hustles’ from time to time. ;)


58 posted on 09/13/2022 8:24:00 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Codeflier

I think a lot of people that are ungrateful for their employment, are going to be begging for any job in about a year or two.


^^^^ THIS, right after the election things are going to change drastically. Those with a “normalcy bias” are in for a painful reality check.


59 posted on 09/13/2022 8:24:28 AM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: Round Earther

A former co-worker told me last thursday she is still working from home and does not expect to have to go to the office. She says she feels like a hermit.
Two others that moved to other states are still employed months after the mask mandates and getting the chinese vaccine jabs were lifted. They were told if they were asked to come back to the office that they would lose their jobs if they did not.


60 posted on 09/13/2022 8:25:27 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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