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Millions Of Electric Car Batteries Retiring By 2030, Are We Ready To Deal With What Could Be Ticking Time Bombs?
The Epoch Times ^ | 09/09/2022 | Autumn Spreadmann

Posted on 09/09/2022 8:50:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The evolving landscape of lithium batteries is creating both contradictions and infrastructure hurdles that, according to some, need to be addressed sooner rather than later. A critical component of this is waste management.

More than 6 million electric vehicle (EV) battery packs will end up as scrap between now and 2030, and the recycling and reuse industries are racing to keep up. Some researchers project that recycling alone will be an over $12 billion industry by 2025.

U.S. President Joe Biden wants to make America a key player in the EV battery industry with a $3.1 billion spending package for automobile production to transition away from fossil fuels.

Much of this dream is pinned on a dusty stretch of soil in the Nevada high desert called Thacker Pass. It serves as the lynchpin in Biden’s push for increased domestic lithium production and more EV batteries. That’s because Thacker Pass is the largest hard rock lithium reserve in the United States.

Currently, China dominates the world’s EV battery production, with more than 80 percent of all units developed there.

Yet while Biden’s administration has its sights on the top spot for EV battery production, insiders are pointing out industry trapdoors.
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Thacker Pass, Nev., has the largest hard rock lithium reserve in the United States. (Lithium Americas)

Due to the potentially dangerous chemistry of lithium-ion EV units, concrete solutions are needed before an avalanche of dead battery packs ends up sitting around and waiting for recycling like ticking time bombs.

Those working on the sales end of the EV revolution tend to squirm or offer vague generalities when queried about what will happen to all of the old batteries.

The notion is quickly lumped into the very broad category of recycling or second life applications without offering any planning details.

Second life applications are an option for EV batteries no longer fit to power cars, but are suitable for alternative uses like energy storage.

And while that’s a start, the ultimate question lingers: How can America effectively deal with millions of completely spent, defective, or recalled EV units?

For people who specialize in hazardous waste, handling lithium batteries is a serious subject.

“For me, the biggest challenge I see, especially with second life, is on the safety side,” Scott Thibodeau at Veolia North America told The Epoch Times.

Thibodeau is the general manager of environmental services and solutions at Veolia North America, the second largest hazmat removal service in the United States.

He explained the chemistry of lithium-ion batteries is problematic since they can’t be dumped or recycled as easily as some other materials. This requires particular adaptations within the evolving EV industry to responsibly strip, package, and dispose of old units.

A ‘Thermal Runaway’

“The packing and logistics isn’t easy or cheap,” Thibodeau said.

Moreover, the batteries pose a significant fire hazard.

Tucked within the sprawling Chicago suburbs is the town of Morris, Illinois. Around midday on Jun. 29, 2021, the fire department received a call that a warehouse fire had broken out in a structure that many residents assumed was just an abandoned building. The call came from someone who claimed to be an employee for a company that was storing 200,000 pounds of batteries in the building, most of which were lithium.

Fire Chief Tracey Steffes told reporters that it was the first time his department had ever fought a lithium fire.

Mitigating traditional fires is done by using water or chemicals to cut off the supply of oxygen. However, lithium is unique in that it doesn’t require oxygen to burn. Once ignited, it creates what Thibodeau called a “thermal runaway,” which is incredibly challenging to control.

Once the battery goes into that state, stopping it is next to impossible,” Steffes said to reporters after the June 2021 fire.

Confused Morris residents were quickly evacuated from neighborhoods close to the blaze and spent hours in hotel rooms, watching smoke fill the sky, and fearing for the safety of their homes.

At that moment, residential Americans got an up close and personal look at lithium’s dark side.

It wasn’t the first incident where lithium battery storage turned catastrophic, and it likely won’t be the last.

Thibodeau says that while there’s no easy way to put out a lithium battery fire, having people properly trained on how to reduce the fire risks, combined with proper handling and storage, is a huge step in the right direction.

Recycling EV batteries poses another significant hurdle. That’s due to a trifecta of complications including expense, existing capacity to handle demand, and the simple fact these batteries aren’t easy to recycle.

“Currently, less than five percent of lithium batteries that reach the end of their lifespan are recycled,” a spokesperson for the carbon accounting group Greenly told The Epoch Times.

The representative for Greenly went on to explain that though the potential for ramped up recycling exists, it’s not possible with lithium-ion batteries until they reach the end of their lifespan.

“The industry hasn’t obtained the knowledge or experience necessary to learn how to recycle these batteries or maximize their usage beforehand,” they added.

This is where second life applications come in, which can buy a non-defective EV battery an extra 10 years of life. It also essentially buys the burgeoning recycling companies time to catch up.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: automotive; batteries; electriccar; epicfailure; ev
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To: SeekAndFind

bttt


61 posted on 09/10/2022 12:39:21 AM PDT by thinden (buckle up.....)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can’t recycle lithium batteries.

Can’t recycle windmill blades.

Solar panels contain toxic materials, IIRC.

Ain’t “green” energy grand?


62 posted on 09/10/2022 12:56:59 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: metmom

Lithium batteries can be recycled and should.

https://greencitizen.com/blog/lithium-ion-battery-recycling/


63 posted on 09/10/2022 12:58:26 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Don't rush to your death.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Ok. Add “easily”.


64 posted on 09/10/2022 1:02:06 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: SeekAndFind

Will the greens actually allow Thacker Pass to be mined for lithium?

And if not, will the Biden Regime just throw up their hands and say “Oh well, we tried. Just send the money to China and they will take care of us”?

And will The Big Guy get his 10%?


65 posted on 09/10/2022 1:07:30 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Fox News is CNN-Lite.)
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To: SeekAndFind

bkmk


66 posted on 09/10/2022 1:37:11 AM PDT by sbnsd
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To: SeekAndFind

California and other states demanding all future cars be electric-powered might end up completely destroyed by fire.

These runaway electric battery fires could burn cities to the ground as if they had been targets of incendiary bombs.

A major fire in lithium is nearly impossible to extinguish.

If California burns to the ground, it might be the only cure for the state’s collective insanity.

Since World War II, we have been fearful nuclear war would destroy us. It would be amazingly ironic if the end of civilization instead comes from an obsession with mandated electric vehicles.


67 posted on 09/10/2022 1:55:18 AM PDT by Gnome1949
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To: metmom

Moving the goal because you were wrong? When it is profitable enough it will get easier.


68 posted on 09/10/2022 2:03:27 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Don't rush to your death.)
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To: Paladin2

Cougars at the grocery store are much more dangerous…


69 posted on 09/10/2022 3:56:37 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: Fresh Wind

We are seeing the consequences of electing a compromised president.


70 posted on 09/10/2022 3:58:12 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: BobL

These disposal problems of old windmill blades and used lithium-ion batteries could end up dwarfing the disposal problem of “spent” uranium fuel rods, which have to be kept in protective storage for 10,000 years before the radioactivity dies down to a tolerable level.

But for the fuel rods, there is a definite time, though far in the future, when they become relatively harmless. No such time frame exists for the lithium-ion batteries or windmill blades.

Send these materials through a plasma-arc trash disposal system, rendering their composition back to the elements from which they were first created.

https://www.explainthatstuff.com/plasma-arc-recycling.html


71 posted on 09/10/2022 4:00:22 AM PDT by alloysteel (A born skeptic is now living in a target-rich environment. SO many beliefs to challenge...)
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To: SeekAndFind
Between this, the windmill blades, bird frying Solar Panels, and whatever crap they keep pumping into the atmosphere for weather/geo-engineering, also what ends up released with their bio weapon experiments:

How much damage have they (elites, globalists) caused to this planet, that they claim to care so much about?

72 posted on 09/10/2022 4:13:09 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( PRAY FOR OUR NATION. Never be a peaceful slave in new Socialist America.)
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To: blackdog

73 posted on 09/10/2022 4:23:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: metmom
Ain’t “green” energy grand?


74 posted on 09/10/2022 4:24:27 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Hilarious how Green Citizen depicts everyone as having black hair, black eyes and skin color of varying shades of brown!

A rather un-self conscious exposure of Bay Area reality


75 posted on 09/10/2022 4:51:25 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: SeekAndFind

This will be a thousand times bigger hazardous waste problem than spent nuclear waste.


76 posted on 09/10/2022 5:33:33 AM PDT by bray (The Vax is fake and deadly)
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To: SeekAndFind

But...but...but...these cars are “zero emissions”???????

People are really too dumb to understand the concept of ‘total cost of ownership’ and the 2nd and 3rd order effects of their decisions.


77 posted on 09/10/2022 6:07:01 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We could use the intense heat of these batteries in power plants, but the emissions and waste might be a problem.


78 posted on 09/10/2022 6:32:13 AM PDT by lurk (u)
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To: SeekAndFind

Place them all on the doorsteps of the Dems.


79 posted on 09/10/2022 6:32:33 AM PDT by chopperk
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To: Gnome1949

These runaway electric battery fires could burn cities to the ground as if they had been targets of incendiary bombs.
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Introducing the newest Dresden line of E.V.’s !!!

Next year the Hamburg and Tokoyo models.


80 posted on 09/10/2022 6:43:34 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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