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Millions Of Electric Car Batteries Retiring By 2030, Are We Ready To Deal With What Could Be Ticking Time Bombs?
The Epoch Times ^ | 09/09/2022 | Autumn Spreadmann

Posted on 09/09/2022 8:50:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The evolving landscape of lithium batteries is creating both contradictions and infrastructure hurdles that, according to some, need to be addressed sooner rather than later. A critical component of this is waste management.

More than 6 million electric vehicle (EV) battery packs will end up as scrap between now and 2030, and the recycling and reuse industries are racing to keep up. Some researchers project that recycling alone will be an over $12 billion industry by 2025.

U.S. President Joe Biden wants to make America a key player in the EV battery industry with a $3.1 billion spending package for automobile production to transition away from fossil fuels.

Much of this dream is pinned on a dusty stretch of soil in the Nevada high desert called Thacker Pass. It serves as the lynchpin in Biden’s push for increased domestic lithium production and more EV batteries. That’s because Thacker Pass is the largest hard rock lithium reserve in the United States.

Currently, China dominates the world’s EV battery production, with more than 80 percent of all units developed there.

Yet while Biden’s administration has its sights on the top spot for EV battery production, insiders are pointing out industry trapdoors.
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Thacker Pass, Nev., has the largest hard rock lithium reserve in the United States. (Lithium Americas)

Due to the potentially dangerous chemistry of lithium-ion EV units, concrete solutions are needed before an avalanche of dead battery packs ends up sitting around and waiting for recycling like ticking time bombs.

Those working on the sales end of the EV revolution tend to squirm or offer vague generalities when queried about what will happen to all of the old batteries.

The notion is quickly lumped into the very broad category of recycling or second life applications without offering any planning details.

Second life applications are an option for EV batteries no longer fit to power cars, but are suitable for alternative uses like energy storage.

And while that’s a start, the ultimate question lingers: How can America effectively deal with millions of completely spent, defective, or recalled EV units?

For people who specialize in hazardous waste, handling lithium batteries is a serious subject.

“For me, the biggest challenge I see, especially with second life, is on the safety side,” Scott Thibodeau at Veolia North America told The Epoch Times.

Thibodeau is the general manager of environmental services and solutions at Veolia North America, the second largest hazmat removal service in the United States.

He explained the chemistry of lithium-ion batteries is problematic since they can’t be dumped or recycled as easily as some other materials. This requires particular adaptations within the evolving EV industry to responsibly strip, package, and dispose of old units.

A ‘Thermal Runaway’

“The packing and logistics isn’t easy or cheap,” Thibodeau said.

Moreover, the batteries pose a significant fire hazard.

Tucked within the sprawling Chicago suburbs is the town of Morris, Illinois. Around midday on Jun. 29, 2021, the fire department received a call that a warehouse fire had broken out in a structure that many residents assumed was just an abandoned building. The call came from someone who claimed to be an employee for a company that was storing 200,000 pounds of batteries in the building, most of which were lithium.

Fire Chief Tracey Steffes told reporters that it was the first time his department had ever fought a lithium fire.

Mitigating traditional fires is done by using water or chemicals to cut off the supply of oxygen. However, lithium is unique in that it doesn’t require oxygen to burn. Once ignited, it creates what Thibodeau called a “thermal runaway,” which is incredibly challenging to control.

Once the battery goes into that state, stopping it is next to impossible,” Steffes said to reporters after the June 2021 fire.

Confused Morris residents were quickly evacuated from neighborhoods close to the blaze and spent hours in hotel rooms, watching smoke fill the sky, and fearing for the safety of their homes.

At that moment, residential Americans got an up close and personal look at lithium’s dark side.

It wasn’t the first incident where lithium battery storage turned catastrophic, and it likely won’t be the last.

Thibodeau says that while there’s no easy way to put out a lithium battery fire, having people properly trained on how to reduce the fire risks, combined with proper handling and storage, is a huge step in the right direction.

Recycling EV batteries poses another significant hurdle. That’s due to a trifecta of complications including expense, existing capacity to handle demand, and the simple fact these batteries aren’t easy to recycle.

“Currently, less than five percent of lithium batteries that reach the end of their lifespan are recycled,” a spokesperson for the carbon accounting group Greenly told The Epoch Times.

The representative for Greenly went on to explain that though the potential for ramped up recycling exists, it’s not possible with lithium-ion batteries until they reach the end of their lifespan.

“The industry hasn’t obtained the knowledge or experience necessary to learn how to recycle these batteries or maximize their usage beforehand,” they added.

This is where second life applications come in, which can buy a non-defective EV battery an extra 10 years of life. It also essentially buys the burgeoning recycling companies time to catch up.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: automotive; batteries; electriccar; epicfailure; ev
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To: Paladin2

LOL!


41 posted on 09/09/2022 10:05:17 PM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: decal
Any time.
CNBC

TECH
Inside Redwood Materials, former Tesla CTO’s effort to recycle batteries for rare components

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/10/tesla-jb-straubel-redwood-materials-battery-recycling.html

42 posted on 09/09/2022 10:17:48 PM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: SmokingJoe

There you go, claiming that innovation ‘n technology ‘n stuff will respond to a problem and solve it.

You will never get invited to join the freeper Luddite Society with that attitude.


43 posted on 09/09/2022 10:32:03 PM PDT by Pelham (World War III is entering on cat's feet. )
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To: SeekAndFind

This nonsense only ends if we find a way to remove Democrats from power.


44 posted on 09/09/2022 10:34:51 PM PDT by Nateman (If Mohammad was not the Anti Christ he definitely comes in as a strong second..)
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To: Paladin2

I prefer a quarter mile.


45 posted on 09/09/2022 10:35:59 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: SmokingJoe

“Sign in to watch CNBC Live
Select your TV provider below to watch unlimited content.”

Sorry, but nope.

I think I have seen this or similar about this recycling operation before. I’m glad someone is on the case.


46 posted on 09/09/2022 10:40:26 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind

Butt butt butt.........


47 posted on 09/09/2022 10:43:47 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: VTenigma

I have to walk the dog and prefer to stay out of the brush that on rare occasions contains those cougars one hears about [or sees the tracks in the snow].

So, it’s up to and along the road.


48 posted on 09/09/2022 10:44:20 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Hey! That was my idea! Just toss em in a big pile, and let the thermal runaway fires burn away all but the valuable metal and say how green it is they are recycled, just ignore all the toxic and deadly smoke.


49 posted on 09/09/2022 10:48:59 PM PDT by matt04 ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

Simple answer is NO


50 posted on 09/09/2022 11:13:22 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: max americana

Excellent point


51 posted on 09/09/2022 11:14:12 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: SeekAndFind

This is going to get messy.


52 posted on 09/09/2022 11:23:53 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I always thought a Merry Garland was a Christmas tree decoration.)
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To: Paladin2

Yeah the worst we have are black bears, although I have seen the ever elusive catamount (easter cougar).


53 posted on 09/09/2022 11:26:51 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: SeekAndFind

Make Gummie Bears or Mike and Ikes out them.


54 posted on 09/09/2022 11:32:09 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I always thought a Merry Garland was a Christmas tree decoration.)
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To: blackdog
The entire vehicle wiring harness is a giant loop antenna transmitting 100db H fields at all kinds of harmonics.

They are supposed to wire these things in a canceling loop configuration as we always do for large spacecraft batteries and harnesses to counteract instrument interference and Earth magnetic field interaction that messes with attitude control. I have seen nothing though that confirms they even know about that in the EV world.

55 posted on 09/09/2022 11:36:02 PM PDT by SFConservative
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To: SFConservative

Twisted pair?


56 posted on 09/09/2022 11:46:03 PM PDT by blackdog
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

“No problem. Just throw them on the heaps of windmill blades.”

That will do wonders for the ‘environment’, a huge pile of fiberglass windmill blades getting lit off by a huge pile of Lithium Ion batteries.


57 posted on 09/09/2022 11:47:40 PM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 37 degrees...time to fire up those heaters. Oh, never mind.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Mike & Ikes. Damn fine product. Orange and lemon eaten first. Cherry last.


58 posted on 09/09/2022 11:48:59 PM PDT by blackdog
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To: blackdog
My pacemaker manual says I can't run a battery powered weedwhacker without harm. I think that covers EV's too! According to the chart I have in the manual I can't go within 6.3 meters of a charger or the batteries.

I remember reading in another forum where a man came up with some sort of shielding garment that allowed him to use a welder without disturbing his pacemaker. I can try to find the specifics, if you're interested.

59 posted on 09/09/2022 11:56:00 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: T.B. Yoits

“...except the cost to recycle makes it prohibitive.”

Since when is ‘cost’ a factor in the Great Reset?


60 posted on 09/09/2022 11:57:23 PM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 37 degrees...time to fire up those heaters. Oh, never mind.)
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