Because they will be remembered long after he is forgotten?
I'll bet Phil Collins would hate to hear this but ... this sounds like something Donald Trump would say.
Gee
Don’t give a damn about the Insipid Phil Collins opinion about Music
Period
I like Collins and Genesis. I like Peter Gabriel’s solo work. None of that holds a candle to the bands Collins dismissed. Sorry Phil.
I’m not a big fan myself. It sounds like music that you would blow ganja to.
needs more cowbell...
Emerson, for all his exhibitionism on stage, was a class act off stage and gentle soul who primarily wanted to be remembered as a composer.
Phil was a great drummer. Unfortunately he got put in front of a microphone and never shut up.
Phil must have listened to “Love Beach”.
Interesting comments from Collins, none of which clarify much why he did not like Floyd. “Because people put us in the same box” says more about audience taste, deficient as it may be, than it says about Floyd.
1, I always heard Greg Lake was an azzhole
2. I heard the same thing about members of Pink Floyd.
3. Phil’s love songs and break up songs are awesome because it happened to him so frequently.
4. Yes hit their peak with The Yes Album and then wheels started wobbling. They made money but you could hear the slide until Going for the One and then 90125. Anderson was too involved with the keyboards which he didn’t play.
5. One of the best prog bands was Kansas. Song for America.
When Collins does an album on the order of ‘Wish You Were Here’ then he can talk, otherwise it’s just noise.
I’m in the same boat as Phil. I could listen to Genesis all day long. Don’t like Floyd at all. I’ve tried to listen to modern prog and it just grates on my ears, especially with that thrash-metal style guitar that became popular for some reason. To each his own.
I’m a little surprised (as I always am) about the criticism of Phil going pop. He was in on all their best stuff from Nursery Cryme on.
And they wrote extended prog epics for more than a decade. At a certain point a writer says what he wanted to say with an art form, and then he wants to do something different.
Like a few other old rock stars, like Pete Townshend, Collins seems to have gotten nastier with age. What’s the point of saying rotten things about other old rockers, especially those who are dead and cannot defend themselves?
Just saw Roger Waters in Cincinnati. Stunning show, musicianship, and his interaction with the audience was seemed genuine. The production was one of the best I’ve seen. He played some of his solo music but mostly Floyd starting at Dark Side and ended with a Dylan song.
You were warned it would be politcal and go to the bar if you don’t want to hear it, but it was over two hours of visual propaganda against everthing I know to be true. The vitriol was for every Ameican President starting with Eisenhower but over the top on Reagan, Trump, the Police and the Supreme Court. It was seething anger and rage. Clinton was the only one omitted.
I’d say the 18,000 seat arena was 3/4 full and almost all agreed with his politics. It startled me.
If I had a dollar for everytime the F-bomb was displayed or spoken, I could fund FR for a year, easily. Odd thing is if capitalism is so bad, why did the cheapest T-shirt start at 50.00 dollars and Hoodies 100?
BTW, my tickets were free from my station. So FU Roger.
Phil was a great drummer and Genesis put out some great interesting stuff but they were never in the same league with the likes of ELP and PF IMO. Genesis was mostly unknown until Phil steered them towards pop.
I can understand Phil or anyone not getting into early PF which was avantgarde soundscape stuff with 360 degree sound. Some people couldn’t understand it or like it. I get that.
ELP was a high level circus act with complex classical style original songs. Genesis was almost an anti-ELP type band in that they did not view themselves as trying to impress anyone. Huge difference in approach.
So I am not surprised Phil did not appreciate ELP. Carl Palmer was a more mechanical technical drummer which may have bugged Phil.
I viewed all those bands differently since they are all have their own space.
Old rock stars need to have some perspective. Robert Fripp is going on a spoken word tour literally called “An Evening with that Awful Man and his Manager.”. So at least he’s got a sense of humor about how he has been perceived.
I remember hearing albums for the first time, such as: Zeppelin I; Pet Sounds; God Machine, Scenes; and Genesis, Nursery Crymes. It is amazing how some musicians are brilliant and talented.
“The Wall” did not age well - sounds to preachy and whiny.
I prefer “Meddle”.
A big Genesis fan from their inception - even their “pop” stuff was pretty good.
ELP- was a big fan in my early teens, but a tough listen nowadays. Not a good band for picking up chicks, let us say.
Musically, Pink Floyd is 1000 times better than Phil Collins.
But lyrics writer Roger Waters IS a nut.