Posted on 07/23/2022 10:23:07 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
A top Italian history professor has caused outrage after he claimed that the Roman Empire fell due to the rise of homosexuality.
Roberto De Mattei, 63, a devout Roman Catholic, had already raised eyebrows by saying the Japan tsunami was "divine punishment", and now with his latest claim he faces calls to resign.
"The collapse of the Roman Empire and the arrival of the Barbarians was due to the spread of homosexuality," the Daily Mail quoted the vice-president of Italy's prestigious Centre for National Research as saying in a radio interview.
"The Roman colony of Carthage was a paradise for homosexuals and they infected many others. The invasion of the Barbarians was seen as punishment for this moral transgression.
"It is well known effeminate men and homosexuals have no place in the kingdom of God.
"Homosexuality was not rife among the Barbarians and this shows God's justice comes throughout history," he stated.
Fellow historians, gay rights groups and politicians expressed their outrage over his claims.
"I have tabled an urgent call for the education minister to intervene," Paola Concia, an MP with the Democratic Left, said.
Italian homosexual groups said the professor's comments were "based on superstition, ridiculous and outrageous" and called on him to resign from his Rome-based post…
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“...anyone not a homosexual could not get into government.
...That has already started in our universities.”
Ain’t that the truth.
Homersexuality
Greek style
“ I’ve discovered that it’s better to be hated by this world than loved by it. To be loved by it means the devil has a temporary use for you. And then he destroys you. ”
Truth
America is right behind Rome and the Greeks. We already have pestilence, disease and will have famine shortly, thanks to Joe, Obozo and Soros.
Actually, both Gibbon and De Mattei can be right, and most likely are, at the same time.
Divine punishment for what?
Show me one example of a thriving homosexual society in history.
Christians not sending their kids to a fight for morally corrupted Rome is a symptom, not a root cause.
If he’s going to make an argument that widespread hosexuality led to a decline in birth rates, I’d listen. But “God punished them because they were homosexuals” is not a legitimate argument from a historian.
so the point of history and historians is not quite proper as argument.
So the real question is Who is God and what does He want?
Do not take this as a personal challenge of right and wrong, but one of reflection.
Duh
Alabama blue counties you refer to are black dominated
Surely you’re not ignorant of that
Alabama is 28% black
Illinois is half that
Whites in Alabama voted 78% for Trump
Illinois around 60%
It is something so obvious that a lot of people can’t see it, missing the forest for the trees sort of thing.
A society that not only tolerates but elevates men finding gratification in each other’s a-holes is, by definition, dysfunctional and corrupt. We’ve actually progressed beyond that, in that we are encouraging these deviant behaviors among children to the point where pre-pubescent kids are now encouraged to take hormones in preparation for sexual “reassignment”.
No discussion is needed. We’re screwed.
It’s possible - but I thought such debauchery was endemic to the Roman and Greek Empires and their culture and, if not, it was certainly prevalent for almost a hundred years.
OTOH - you can point to the rise of Christ and Christianity as the movement that corrected it - but then gave rise to it again (in an ironic fashion)
The not sending their kids to fight is a secondary (or even much smaller) effect of the impact of Christianity on Rome. Christianity’s social impact as a response to the decadence and perversion of Roman society was broader and deeper - and the collapse of the Roman military was also broader than Christians opting out. (though we are about to see the same impact here with the once-vaunted American military). Christianity as an exploding movement had a huge impact on tipping Rome over…as did overall Roman decadence and social perversion did over many centuries from the fall of the original Republic…and homosexuality played a major role in fostering that decadence.
The title of the thread: “Rome fell due to rise of homosexuality: Expert.”
No; Rome fell because it became a bloated and self-serving and self-perpetuating bureaucracy.
Amazing. You must be smart to know more than Italy’s top historian. Or you are simply a confidently ill informed Freeper.
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