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When Will They Figure Out That Reducing U.S. Carbon Dioxide Emissions Is Pointless?
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 17 Jul, 2022 | Francis Menton

Posted on 07/18/2022 4:44:37 AM PDT by MtnClimber

The Supreme Court’s West Virginia v. EPA decision a couple of weeks ago has brought forth a big wave of hand wringing in the precincts of the left. How oh how are we now going to save the planet, if our friends at the EPA can no longer order up a nation-wide energy system transformation on their own authority? A couple of examples of the genre come from Ron Brownstein in the Atlantic, and from Coral Davenport in the New York Times, both from Friday July 15.

The funny thing about these pieces, and many others like them, is that the authors seem to have completely lost track of, or failed to follow, what has happened and continues to happen in the arena of international energy consumption. When I started to follow this area in about 2000, the U.S. and Western Europe together accounted for close to two-thirds of world energy consumption, the large majority of it from fossil fuels. Perhaps at that time it was plausible to believe that if only the U.S. and Western Europe could be weaned off the fossil fuels, and could show how that could be done, then the rest of the world would quickly follow along.

But that was more than two decades ago. In the intervening twenty-plus years, the U.S. and Europe have achieved some small reductions in their emissions, but the emissions from the developing world — mostly but by no means exclusively from China — have soared. And they continue to soar. Neither China nor any other large-population developing country has agreed to forego using coal or any other fossil fuel to achieve rapid economic growth. Today U.S. emissions stand at about 15% of those of the world, and continuing to shrink rapidly as a percentage, even if they remain about steady in absolute terms.

In short, the effort to make significant reductions in U.S. carbon emissions is completely pointless. Can someone tell Mr. Brownstein, Ms. Davenport, et al.?

Brownstein’s piece in the Atlantic has the title “Mother Nature Dissents,” rather presumptuously implying that “Mother Nature” disagrees with the Supreme Court’s legal reasoning. The heart of the piece is the usual cherry-picked assortment of extreme weather events, as if every year does not have some extreme and record events somewhere.

With record heat in Texas that is testing the state’s power grid, a California wildfire that has threatened an ancient grove of sequoias considered a foundation stone of the national-park system, and persistent drought across the West that is forcing unprecedented cutbacks in water deliveries from the Colorado River, the summer of 2022 already is shaping up as another season of extreme and dangerous environmental conditions.

Does that seem somehow persuasive to you? If so, you might consider looking at the most recent report of the global satellite temperatures from UAH, which shows that the overall temperature anomaly for the most recent month (June) was +0.06 deg C, barely above the 1991-2020 average, and significantly down from a most recent peak of +0.7 deg C back in 2016. If we are having unusually hot weather in Texas and California, yet the overall world temperature is just about average, then clearly it must be well below average somewhere else. And sure enough it is. From Roy Spencer at UAH:

The tropical (20N-20S) anomaly for June was -0.36 deg. C, which is the coolest monthly anomaly in over 10 years, the coolest June in 22 years, and the 9th coolest June in the 44 year satellite record.

But for Brownstein, a few weeks of hot weather in Texas and California clearly mean that the U.S. government must “do something” to change the climate. And the something is meeting the “carbon reduction targets” of the Paris Agreement of 2016. Moreover the blue states can’t do this on their own, so the feds must act. After all, “scientists say” so:

[I]t’s highly unlikely that action in blue states (and cities) alone will be enough for the U.S. to meet the carbon-reduction targets that scientists say are required to avoid the most catastrophic environmental changes.

Davenport equally reports that “scientists say” that the U.S. must cut its emissions significantly by 2030, and that will somehow affect the climate:

Mr. Biden [has set a] target of cutting the nation’s emissions 50 percent from 2005 levels by 2030. That is the amount that scientists say the United States must reduce its emissions in order to do its part to avoid the most catastrophic near-term impacts of climate change.

Neither the Brownstein nor the Davenport piece so much as mentions what is going on with fossil fuel use and carbon emissions elsewhere in the world, or the extent to which those developments completely nullify anything the U.S. could ever possibly do to reduce emissions. Consider, for example, recent developments in the production of coal. The U.S. Energy Information Administration puts out an annual report on U.S. coal production, most recently in October 2021 covering the year 2020. They report that U.S. coal production decreased by some 24.2% in 2020 over 2019, falling to 535.4 million short tons. Much of that large reduction was undoubtedly a Covid-related blip that will not be sustained, but assume for these purposes that the U.S. can continue to make such dramatic reductions in its use of coal. The problem is that by this time China produces and uses a multiple of the amount of coal used here in the U.S., and continues to increase its production at a rapid and accelerating rate. From NPR, April 25:

Official plans call for boosting coal production capacity by 300 million tons this year, according to news reports. That is equal to 7% of last year's output of 4.1 billion tons, which was an increase of 5.7% over 2020.

In other words, China’s coal production and consumption are close to 8 times the levels of the U.S., and just two years of annual increases are approximately equal to full U.S. annual production. Here is a graph from Our World in Data showing the trajectory by which China’s coal production went from approximately equal to that of the U.S. in 2000 to some 8 times as much by 2020 (which is before the further increases noted above by NPR):

Note that in that chart India has also risen past the U.S. in coal production. And with nearly 1.4 billion people — four times the population of the U.S., and just slightly less than that of China — India would well multiply its coal production by 8 over the next 20 years, just as China has done over the past 20. It has made no commitments not to do so.

Brownstein, Davenport, and the rest of the fossil fuel suppression advocacy machine seem blissfully unaware that events have passed them by. By this time, nothing can be done to make it such that reduction in U.S. carbon emissions can result in a meaningful difference in the overall world picture. Fortunately, the likelihood of any catastrophic consequences to the climate is extremely remote.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: c02; carbon; climate; communism; corruption; emissions; epa; tyranny
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To: MtnClimber

In Wisconsin we are having the coldest summer in decades. I have not even put my air-conditioner in. Normally I put two window units in my house every summer. But most days I can’t even wear shorts. We have spent most of the summer in the low 70s and nights in the upper 50s. Its July. Its great since Wisconsin people like it cooler. But heat somewhere does not mean the world is warmer. The world hits cold and hot records virtually every day, somewhere. Most days there is at least one of each being set. And we are not really setting records at all. Our methods of recording temperatures has changed several times and any comprehensive data collecting for the planet is only a few decades old. So for a planet which is billions of years old. We can’t be saying anything about records at all. Its clear that the earth has been colder before. And its been hotter before. And from one year to the next the trend is almost always going hotter or colder depending on how many years back you look. We are not at an extreme. We are nowhere close to an extreme. Animals have been walking this earth for over 300 million years in much hotter and much colder temperatures. And with far more and far less atmospheric CO2.

We need to stop listening to this climate crap. Its just as bad as vaccine testing. Science has turned into propaganda. Something we need to fix. Firing Fauci and his climate research funding equivalent would be a start. .


21 posted on 07/18/2022 6:26:20 AM PDT by poinq
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To: MtnClimber

NOAA. Carbon dioxide measured at NOAA’s Mauna Loa Atmospheric Baseline Observatory peaked for 2022 at 420.99 parts per million in May.
A level not seen for 400,000 years (How do 5hey know?). This called for immediate action!
Yet, Marijuana growers recommend increasing the CO2 concentration to 1,200 -2,000 ppm. Shouldn’t they be under indictment?
Cra cra


22 posted on 07/18/2022 6:27:24 AM PDT by griswold3 (When chaos serves the State, the State will encourage chaos.)
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To: Sans-Culotte
My tall fescue is making a come back from near death. We had rain in Virginia.

There is no, or very weak, Burmuda High pressure system stationed in the Atlantic this year and it's messing up the typical summertime North American weather patterns.

23 posted on 07/18/2022 6:31:27 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: MtnClimber

The issue is never the issue, the issue is always the Revolution.

This is about power, nothing more, nothing less.


24 posted on 07/18/2022 6:31:59 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MtnClimber

The point is reducing world population. Reducing CO2 emissions is just their “polite” way of phrasing it.


25 posted on 07/18/2022 6:47:54 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: MtnClimber

They don’t really care. This is just another item that can be used to destroy.
They’d go on about protecting unicorns if they could get away with it — about the same amount of truth involved.


26 posted on 07/18/2022 6:56:00 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: poinq

There is no Bermuda High pressure this year over the Atlantic. A such cooler air is flowing further south this year causing non typical weather patterns.


27 posted on 07/18/2022 7:00:13 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: MtnClimber

Right-AS IF the US exists under a bubble and all the other recklessly polluting countries can carry on polluting with impunity!!


28 posted on 07/18/2022 7:20:41 AM PDT by SMARTY (“Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.” Thomas Sowell)
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To: MtnClimber
They know it will do nothing.

They are not actually interested in "changing the world's climate" even if they knew how to actually do it much less had the ability.

What they actually WANT they told you "You will own nothing".

Learn to listen when people tell you who they are and believe them.

29 posted on 07/18/2022 7:32:28 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (It is better to light a single flame thrower then curse the darkness. A bunch of them is better yet)
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To: MtnClimber

“Neither the Brownstein nor the Davenport piece so much as mentions what is going on with fossil fuel use and carbon emissions elsewhere in the world”

They may not mention it, but they DEFINITELY have a plan for the rest of the world:

1. Weaken, and then break up Russia, via their proxy war in Ukraine, even if that means going nuclear.

2. Next strangle China, as they would no longer have access to Russian resources.

3. The rest of the world will then fall in place.

Seriously, does anyone really think that we’re about to go to blows against Putin simply because he won’t hire Rachael Levine types?


30 posted on 07/18/2022 7:45:22 AM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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31 posted on 07/18/2022 8:03:11 AM PDT by nralife (Proud Boomer Rube)
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To: MtnClimber

They already know, but it’s a win-win situation for Democrats. Far-left college professors get the “research” money, and Democrats get the near totalitarian power to make policy without pushback (it’s “for the children”).


32 posted on 07/18/2022 8:11:26 AM PDT by libertylover (Democrats are as determined to kill innocent people as the Nazis.)
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To: nralife

It does have 12 year cycles sure someone has heat charts about it.


33 posted on 07/18/2022 9:31:36 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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To: MtnClimber

That does seem to be way it goes.


34 posted on 07/18/2022 11:23:16 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: MtnClimber; All
Three questions for the Greenies:

What per cent of the air we breath is CO2?

What is the term used to describe the plant conversion of CO2 into oxygen?

Why isn’t the state of Florida not now under water?

35 posted on 07/18/2022 11:43:34 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: Cobra64

36 posted on 07/18/2022 11:49:45 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Cobra64

37 posted on 07/18/2022 11:50:12 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Mark17

As you requested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQB2-Kmiic


38 posted on 07/19/2022 5:00:46 AM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: LastDayz

😀🤗👍


39 posted on 07/19/2022 5:20:21 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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