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No one should trust abortion horror stories pushed by the desperate liberal media We should be cautious when abortion activists make shocking and horrifying claims. Those willing to kill babies in the womb won’t hesitate to lie for the cause.
Life Site News ^ | July 8, 2022 | Jonathon Van Maren

Posted on 07/08/2022 11:14:17 AM PDT by Morgana

LifeSiteNews) – Since the fall of Roe v. Wade on June 24, the mainstream press has offered up a nonstop stream of nightmare scenarios that they claim will result from pro-life laws in red states across America. As I noted in this space back in May, one of their favorite accusations is that women who suffer miscarriages will be charged with murder under the suspicion that the natural deaths of their pre-born children were actually a result of abortions. To validate this claim, stories from Latin American countries where abortion is illegal are posited as proof.

Over the coming months and years, we are going to see a torrent of these stories put forward as fact by abortion activists and journalists (I repeat myself). To undermine support for pro-life laws, abortion activists seek out hard cases and complicated situations, and then brazenly lie to the public about what actually occurred. This is how abortion activists persuaded a majority of the Irish people to vote against the 8th Amendment—by insisting that the law had resulted in the death of Savita Halapannavar, an egregious lie that nonetheless had the desired effect. This is what abortion activists are doing in developing countries around the world as we speak.

I want to urge pro-lifers to be cautious when abortion activists make shocking and at times horrifying claims. In many, if not most cases, they will be lying for the express purpose of decreasing support for protections for children in the womb. They are fundamentally untrustworthy. Those willing to kill babies in the womb will not hesitate to lie for the cause.

A recent case in point would be the tragic story of 21-year-old Lesly Ramirez in El Salvador, who was recently sentenced to fifty years in prison. According to the activists at the Citizen Group for the Decriminalization of Abortion, who defended her in court, Ramirez suffered a miscarriage at five months on June 17, 2020. Abortion activists around the world promoted the story as an example of the extreme cruelty of pro-life laws; pro-abortion protestors rallied in favor of her cause.

But Lesly Ramirez was not sentenced to prison on a simple suspicion that the miscarriage had been an abortion, which is illegal in El Salvador. Ramirez was prosecuted and convicted of giving birth to a baby girl and then stabbing her in the neck six times. (Her attorneys plan to appeal her conviction).

The Daily Mail reported that at “least four women are imprisoned and another five have been charged in El Salvador in Cases similar to Ramirez’s, according to the Citizen Group for the Decriminalization of Abortion.” But as Salvadoran psychiatrist and former director general of the Dr. Robert Masferrer Institute of Forensic Medisine of El Salvador, Dr. José Miguel Fortín-Magaña Leiva has pointed out, this “is totally false.”

“As former director of the Institute of Forensic Medicine and as a doctor, I can assure you that the foregoing is totally false,” he stated. He noted that although sentences are sometimes given out in abortion cases, “it can be for community service instead; and therefore there’s not a single case of women imprisoned for that reason.” The crimes being highlighted, he continued, are cases in which women “committed aggravated homicide” and “murdered their child, once it had been born by the natural process.” These crimes, he pointed out, were perpetrated “by suffocation, strangulation, striking with a rock, drowning, or simply abandonment.”

When we hear stories of women being denied treatment for miscarriage (a claim leveled at the pro-life regime in Malta recently); or women being jailed for miscarriage or even abortion; or women dying as a result of pro-life laws, we should research these claims carefully and respond with the facts.

The media loves to run with these stories to assist abortion activists in their relentless crusades to eliminate protections for pre-born children. These lies, as the saying going, get halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on—and we are about to be inundated by such stories, day in, day out. We should be prepared to answer.


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I know they are lies but it's so much fun to watch to watch them be crybabies.
1 posted on 07/08/2022 11:14:17 AM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Honestly, I don’t care about whatever awful situation the liberals come up with, the BADY doesn’t deserve the death penalty because of it.

Raped 10 year old? give the death penalty to the PERSON WHO RAPED HER!! not the baby!

But liberals don’t support prosecuting the CRIMINALS!


2 posted on 07/08/2022 11:16:04 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Morgana

where is the pic of the woman lying in a back alley with a clothes hanger sticking out?


3 posted on 07/08/2022 11:16:09 AM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: Morgana

For liberals, the message takes priority over the facts. Always.


4 posted on 07/08/2022 11:20:37 AM PDT by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: Morgana

Story about the 11yo girl raped and was pregnant and couldn’t get an abortion? Had to flee to a state that allowed abortions?


5 posted on 07/08/2022 11:22:06 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( I make airplanes fly, what's your super power?)
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They are killholes


6 posted on 07/08/2022 11:24:47 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Morgana

Er, as if everything they say wasn’t a lie in the first place. Abortion, or nay other subject.


7 posted on 07/08/2022 11:26:58 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: TexasFreeper2009

An article yesterday said that there is NO evidence anybody was arrested or convicted for raping the 10 year old girl, to the whole story is probably concocted. They must have hired Biden to create that confabulation.


8 posted on 07/08/2022 11:28:08 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“...see whether we in our day and generation may not perform something worthy to be remembered.”)
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To: Morgana
You can't just laugh at these terrorists.
9 posted on 07/08/2022 11:30:03 AM PDT by Dogbert41 (Blessed are the peace makers.)
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To: Morgana

I heard a 7 year old boy got raped and is pregnant but can’t get an abortion——that’s a true story right there.


10 posted on 07/08/2022 11:31:09 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: Morgana

11 posted on 07/08/2022 11:31:19 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Morgana

I’m way ahead of you 🤪


12 posted on 07/08/2022 11:35:54 AM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“Raped 10 year old”

I must wonder if the 10-year-old rape victim really exist. Maybe it is a made-up claim.


13 posted on 07/08/2022 11:37:51 AM PDT by DEPcom (Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules)
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To: Morgana; TexasFreeper2009

One point I keep trying to make on here and almost always end up being scolded and getting vaguely threatening DMs about is:

No rape victim in the USA has to worry about a doctor, nurse, social worker, etc, trying to stop her from getting an abortion if she does end up getting pregnant from her assault and GETS MEDICAL ATTENTION immediately afterwards. Most doctors and nurses will offer “the abortion pill” RU486 if there is any concern. Yes, it may eventually end up being illegal, too, but at this time it’s not and the hospitals and clinics are not going to just throw out all those pills.

I’m not saying that it’s RIGHT for this to happen, it’s just RIDICULOUS FEARMONGERING to state that a rape victim is going to face persecution from the system over her concerns about pregnancy. No doctor or nurse in this day and age is going to say: “I will stand in your way if you seek an abortion after you are assaulted!” Even if they are opposed to abortion, they will more likely refer the victim to counseling rather than traumatize her all over again by suggesting that she will be stalked and persecuted if she doesn’t want to be pregnant with a rapist’s child. (Scold me all you want; this is reality and I didn’t make it that way except that in the past I voted for Democrats!)

No doctor is going to force a woman to go through with a miscarriage where the pregnancy is surely doomed to failure. Yes, at some point this may become the law, although I totally, totally doubt it.

The point is that what the leftwards are honking about is about as close to being 100% pure dee old bu11sh1t as it can be.

Other countries, I can’t really opine on. However, prior to the SCOTUS decision there were thousands of abortions a day in the USA. And many of these result in complications up to and including death of the mom who aborts her kid.

In all these cases, the death of the infant AND the possible death of the mom are due to the intervention of an ABORTIONIST.

Abortionists are almost always disgraced medical doctors or doctors who have had their licenses removed. If the law removes them from the community, there may still be abortions, but there will certainly be a lot fewer abortions. Careless, lazy gals will either start being more conscientious, or they will end up giving birth.

The pro-abortion people like to make a lot of noise about the EXTREMELY RARE incidence of some gal who is being trafficked or imprisoned being denied the “right” to abortion. This is just horse manure. Usually someone who is being trafficked is being taken to the abortionist by the person who is enslaving her.

Social workers are notoriously slack about doing “outreach” to drug cartels and their many slaves. They’re just serving whoever comes in the door.

Remove the abortionists and you will make life very difficult for some extremely bad people.


14 posted on 07/08/2022 11:45:07 AM PDT by Scarlett156 (What about those women with NO ACCESS TO CALENDARS??? WHAT ABOUT THEM???!!!!!)
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To: Morgana

Nothing, “nothing” the libturd communist media spews is the truth. The libturd MSM are all owned and controlled by George Soros affiliates. It’s all NWO propaganda engineered to divide the people and it’s working.


15 posted on 07/08/2022 11:47:00 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: Morgana

both sides exaggerate to further their cause.


16 posted on 07/08/2022 11:47:32 AM PDT by ronniesgal (Hot fun in the summertime! thanks rjo.)
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To: Scarlett156

I would support using the morning-after pill for situations like you described. It can take up to several days for fertilization to occur.

But in nearly all other situations I would put the liberal on the defensive by pointing out how they are soft on crime for not wanting the death penalty for the rapist.


17 posted on 07/08/2022 11:51:18 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The first thing I thought of when I read about the 10-year-old was is it a true story? I have not seen a primary source for the story. Remember the “BUT WAIT.....we found another victim” during the entire Kavanaugh hearings. The left cheats, lies, threatens, and kills.

There has to be a line we do not cross. I think we are getting close.


18 posted on 07/08/2022 11:51:57 AM PDT by ALASKA (There has to be a line we do not cross.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The first thing I thought of when I read about the 10-year-old was is it a true story? I have not seen a primary source for the story. Remember the “BUT WAIT.....we found another victim” during the entire Kavanaugh hearings. The left cheats, lies, threatens, and kills.

There has to be a line we do not cross. I think we are getting close.


19 posted on 07/08/2022 11:55:32 AM PDT by ALASKA (There has to be a line we do not cross.)
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To: Morgana
Have we learned nothing?

Science says:

1) Re-identify as a boy right now. Current problem solved.

2) Put up Sperm-Free Zone signs. Future problems avoided.

20 posted on 07/08/2022 12:00:21 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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