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DYI Mini Split Heat Pump, I did it! And it works very well!
Grunt ^ | 18 June 2022 | D. Grunt

Posted on 06/18/2022 9:30:32 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

DYI Mini Split Heat Pump, I did it! And it works very well!

My existing Trane AC sadly died an early death at a very young 27 years.; RIP. I did have the need R-290(Not the old Texas R-1bbq refrigerant, real R290, no water vapor) to revive it, but then the fan solenoid gave out. And we said our goodbyes.

Our daughter and HVAC guy S.I.L. put on an addition and went with a Mitsubishi/Trane mini split system, the Cadillac of heat pumps $$$. They love it! And last year my brother an MIS, installed his own Pioneer mini split purchased from Home Depot. I purchased directly from Park-Davis because I had many questions and they were VERY helpful. Also a 5% veterans/senior discount, same product. IMO, Pioneer might be more like a Chevy or Oldsmobile??? He loves it!

Most of the compressor units come from China even some Mitsubishi. Mrcool says made in the USA, the compressor is a Tecumseh and has a good reputation among the few I ask that were familiar.

Good stuff! The old unit SEER 12 guzzled about 4,000 watts; I have watt meters on both incoming power lines. The new unit SEER 21.5 with both systems in Turbo mode with a HOT, 98F Outside ~1,600 Watts; I did not shut the rest of the house off for an exact reading. The 100-year-old house is 2,800 sq ft plus an UNcondutioned basement. We have added the maximum possible insulation and all new windows.

Being a split I did the second floor first with hot weather on the way. With ONLY the second-floor unit running the upstairs was fine at 76F, 50% humidity and the first floor Was OK at 82 F, 55% humidity; drawing 800 Watts max, the load varies with solar gain. The big old trees HELP! The unit runs constantly by design, slowing down as needed; lower energy use, and better humidity management. Plus few stops/starts.

Installation

With a bit of luck to have the studs in the right place...EASY PEASY. But the manuals are a bit sketchy on a few details, like how to take the wall unit down after it is hanging??? I hung the unit without any connections to check it out? HOW TO TAKE IT DOWN? A call to my brother and he ran into the same issue and made some claws to release the unit and sent photos.

The biggest help was the EasyBend Lineset Bender, which takes the worry out of kinking a $200 line set.

I did above and beyond standard testing ( basically the Mitsubutsi test schedule) Pressure testing staged up to 300 PSI nitrogen overnight then 500 PSI for one hour. Vacuum testing sub 100 Micron hold for 30 minutes.

My brother did his with a cheap <$100 vacuum pump and the $40 vacuum gauge set from Pioneer. Works fine. Pioneer also sells a $40 flush kit, no vacuum is needed?

The unit is shipped with additional refrigerant, no additional is needed for standard length line sets.

Open the valves, and turn it on.

I own an ancient refrigeration gauge set that goes with my even older Welch 1400 vacuum pump. From 27 years ago... The hose set was not up to the sub 500 Micron vacuum, I used 1/4 inch copper lines.

https://www.pioneerminisplit.com/products/dual-zone-outdoor-section-230v-21-seer-multi-split-air-conditioner-heat-pump

Plus one 12,000 Btu wall mount and one 12,000Btu floor mount plus line sets. $2,143.00 delivered. I have add ons above home depot.

Plus a $65 set of : https://www.supplyhouse.com/Easybend-84381-1-4-to-5-8-EasyBend-Lineset-Bender-Minisplit-Kit-w-13-Mandrels

A used micron vacuum meter from a friend; $40.

Vacuum pump oil $20, needs replacement with each use.

A whole house surge suppressor, $65, Outside disconnect and whip, $10+$10, additional condensate hose, $10 from a big box.

Two stalks of conduit and wire from a friend, now I owe.

Additional labor from my wife; happy (AC cooled) wife= good life...


TOPICS: Hobbies
KEYWORDS: airconditioning; heatpump; vanity
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In twenty years or so, I'll know more about the long-term usage.

Yes, it also heats, but my wife and I installed about of about a mile of tubing in the floors and a WM Ultra boiler 95% so not much heating usage, I hope. I did a test and it put out 115 F air...

1 posted on 06/18/2022 9:30:32 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Outstanding work soldier!


2 posted on 06/18/2022 9:37:22 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

What is DYI?


3 posted on 06/18/2022 9:37:39 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Very impressed. Thanks for the info.
If i ever get my other projects completed …..


4 posted on 06/18/2022 9:38:40 AM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: Lee'sGhost
What is DYI?

Do Yourself It.

5 posted on 06/18/2022 9:40:21 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Lee'sGhost
What is DYI?

Do yourself in.

6 posted on 06/18/2022 9:48:48 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Contempt for pre-born human life breeds contempt for post-born human life.)
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To: Lee'sGhost
What is DYI?

Should be DIY... Do it yourself.

7 posted on 06/18/2022 9:49:16 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Contempt for pre-born human life breeds contempt for post-born human life.)
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To: fso301

“Do Yourself It. “

The Old Skool American way....


8 posted on 06/18/2022 9:49:49 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I looked at a mini split for my 350 sq ft sunroom.

Putting in a 15k BTU PTAC unit (hotel style) turned out to be a better, cheaper choice, for me. I paid about $750 for the wiring (220v), and $1000 for the unit, delivered.


9 posted on 06/18/2022 9:51:02 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

HAHA!


10 posted on 06/18/2022 9:51:11 AM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: Lee'sGhost

Drive Yourself Insane.

DYI is what I do instead of DIY.


11 posted on 06/18/2022 9:54:03 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I snicker that you “did it yourself” - with your HVAC S.I.L. ;)

Still, a good job and it saves a lot to have a well-working system.


12 posted on 06/18/2022 9:54:04 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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—”What is DYI?”

If this AC unit holds up and I have some time...

I may learn to actually look at what I peck out???

Yes, should be DIY, as in DO IT YOURSELF.

Not, Do Yourself In?


13 posted on 06/18/2022 9:54:58 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: Eccl 10:2

—”Putting in a 15k BTU PTAC unit “

I considered terminal units, but insufficient wall space, too much glass and cutting the holes and framing in the exterior wall looked like work to me.


14 posted on 06/18/2022 10:00:43 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

What no back-up generator?


15 posted on 06/18/2022 10:06:43 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Where is Biden leading us and what's with the hand basket?)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

—”I snicker that you “did it yourself” - with your HVAC S.I.L. ;)”

He and our daughter have our three grandkids, he coaches on two soccer teams...
A very busy schedule.

My wife likes the AC on hot summer nights, not waiting for the AC project to come around.

Thinking of the likely FreeRepublic post:
D. Grunt had never been fatally ill before but on Monday he woke up dead!!!


16 posted on 06/18/2022 10:07:18 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

18,000 BTU (9,000 + 9,000) dual zone kit with 10’ to 50’ lines selection. $2k

https://www.pioneerminisplit.com/collections/pre-made-multi-split-kits/products/dual-zone-18000btu-wall-wyt

Install/assemble, open valves, done.


17 posted on 06/18/2022 10:09:22 AM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Are mini splits energy efficient?
My electric rates have gone up 30% because Green New Steal.


18 posted on 06/18/2022 10:15:11 AM PDT by SisterK (recognize and resist tyranny)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I would have run the 30 inch vacuum over night as well. I hate air and noncondensables. Other than that

Damn good job!


19 posted on 06/18/2022 10:16:49 AM PDT by Delta 21 (It started as a virus, and mutated into an IQ test.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

It’s about all they use in tropical Asian climates. They work great.


20 posted on 06/18/2022 10:18:21 AM PDT by lurk (u)
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