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In twenty years or so, I'll know more about the long-term usage.

Yes, it also heats, but my wife and I installed about of about a mile of tubing in the floors and a WM Ultra boiler 95% so not much heating usage, I hope. I did a test and it put out 115 F air...

1 posted on 06/18/2022 9:30:32 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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Outstanding work soldier!


2 posted on 06/18/2022 9:37:22 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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What is DYI?


3 posted on 06/18/2022 9:37:39 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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Very impressed. Thanks for the info.
If i ever get my other projects completed …..


4 posted on 06/18/2022 9:38:40 AM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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I looked at a mini split for my 350 sq ft sunroom.

Putting in a 15k BTU PTAC unit (hotel style) turned out to be a better, cheaper choice, for me. I paid about $750 for the wiring (220v), and $1000 for the unit, delivered.


9 posted on 06/18/2022 9:51:02 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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I snicker that you “did it yourself” - with your HVAC S.I.L. ;)

Still, a good job and it saves a lot to have a well-working system.


12 posted on 06/18/2022 9:54:04 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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What no back-up generator?


15 posted on 06/18/2022 10:06:43 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Where is Biden leading us and what's with the hand basket?)
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18,000 BTU (9,000 + 9,000) dual zone kit with 10’ to 50’ lines selection. $2k

https://www.pioneerminisplit.com/collections/pre-made-multi-split-kits/products/dual-zone-18000btu-wall-wyt

Install/assemble, open valves, done.


17 posted on 06/18/2022 10:09:22 AM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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I would have run the 30 inch vacuum over night as well. I hate air and noncondensables. Other than that

Damn good job!


19 posted on 06/18/2022 10:16:49 AM PDT by Delta 21 (It started as a virus, and mutated into an IQ test.)
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It’s about all they use in tropical Asian climates. They work great.


20 posted on 06/18/2022 10:18:21 AM PDT by lurk (u)
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Well done! Your labor and your smarts saved you thousands of dollars. Now just find a way to get your new arrangement to charge your EV.


23 posted on 06/18/2022 10:24:53 AM PDT by dennisw
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My roof is 20 and I think it’s a 25-year roof, looks in pretty good shape. Every so often this neighborhood gets targeted with ads for the new metal roof stuff...

Well I finally read some of this stuff and it’s not only metal roofing they’re doing your whole roof with a heat sync type of material that reduces the temperature of your attic so in 5 years after I understand even more about this phenomenal new product I keep hearing about but ignored, maybe they’ll be more information and testimony.


29 posted on 06/18/2022 10:47:20 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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< |:)~

30 posted on 06/18/2022 10:49:16 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Bkmk....split AC


31 posted on 06/18/2022 10:52:02 AM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
my old 2/1 FL home (’60) had one wall shaker when I bought it. I also went with the mini splits instead of central AC.

One 30000btu for the living/dining/kitchen/FL room, which has its own outside unit.
Each bedroom is 9000 btu, each with its own outside unit, figuring that if one failed we can sleep in the other bedroom, while we wait for parts, or swap parts if necessary. They are now ten years old and am replacing the bedroom units, same size 24-SEER

Initial cost
$3k for both bedrooms including disco box, line set, inside/outside units, wire, drain tubes, line set covers.
$3k for the living room.

I poured the outside slabs and mounted the in and out units, the disco box and drilled the holes in the block walls. Electric drop lines from main box was run by electrician and AC guy I know flared the line sets, drew the vacuum and dumped the Freon. Total cost was less than $8k.

VERY quiet.
August electric bill is ~$120/mo to keep the house 78° & winter is about $80/mo...and there is zero insulation in the attic. I'll get to that one day this winter when it's not so hot up there and rent a blower to blow in 18” of pink panther.

I bought from ecomfort in Illinois. Both times, great service, very helpful, shipped to my house.

I say all this to echo your thoughts and to encourage others who may be considering options.

Thanks for the great article!

39 posted on 06/18/2022 11:46:06 AM PDT by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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My Trane XL1400 two-ton system seems to have lost almost all of its R-22 freon at the wrong time of year here in Florida.

I’m going to have to replace it.

About how much should I expect to pay, with a line filter?

What is the additional amount I should expect to pay for a heat pump system instead of the typical AC + resistance heating?

Any particular brands I should seek out? avoid?

My split system lines are 44 years old. Should they be replaced? If so, how much should I expect to pay?

If there are things I haven’t asked about, but need to know, let me know.


42 posted on 06/18/2022 12:11:58 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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My new neighbor put in a swimming pool heater by himself.

No freon lines were involved. PVC water pipe is stuff I can deal with. Brazing is for pros.

There is a company that sells a unit that allows AC units to use a swimming pool for a heat sink. I don’t have a swimming pool, but a koi pond would be nice.


44 posted on 06/18/2022 12:20:20 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Put a Mr Cool 36k 16 seer in my 40x60x14 building. Insulated with closed cell foam. Maintains 72 on lower level with 98 outside. They replaced the unit when it wouldn’t run below 50 during the winter. Happy ever since.


51 posted on 06/18/2022 4:38:15 PM PDT by 6ppc (Democrats would have to climb Everest to reach the level of "scum of the earth")
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What about installation of the compressor unit? Isn’t that outside, and, if so, does it need a concrete pad?


53 posted on 06/18/2022 10:13:57 PM PDT by The Duke (Search for 'Sydney Ducks' and understand what is needed.)
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You don’t need to change your vacuum pump oil after every use.


57 posted on 06/19/2022 8:59:03 AM PDT by Sawdring
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