Posted on 05/18/2022 1:55:12 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
Turbo’s are notoriously unreliable and often fail within 40K miles if you are hard on the gas pedal.
Toyota's last because they are underpowered and the high throttle lag pretty much guarantee's you aren't stressing the engine or suspension. QC is also high at both companies. Honda is really an engine manufacturer first, and a car maker second, just like BMW, but unlike BMW, Honda focuses on QC and has better manufacturing practices which equals a long last car. Honda also lags in features (electronics) compared to most other auto makers which equals less problems on the road.
There is a huge recall on these kia cars. And yes it is for engine replacements.
I don’t know about the $18,000 but my 16 year old with the Honda drivetrain....it is a beast, fast, nimble and purrs like a kitten at 150,000. I feel like it is just getting broken in.
I "abuse" my engines from day 1.
Red line the things on the test drive.
One Saturn, driven that way got 479,000 miles before it was wrecked.
The engine was still fine, getting 2 MPG better than it "should have".
25,000 miles oil changes, which is NOT abusing them, with Amsoil Signature Series.
This. Have a brother that once had a company rental car - they wouldn’t upgrade or replace it until it failed, so he never had the oil changed or even topped off. Ran for four years on that sludge until he moved to new job - I think it hated him.
My last two trucks a Chevy and a Gmc faithfully gave me over 400k miles(gassers). Got 150k on my current Silverado 2500HD gasser.
Sounds like another testament to a good product from Kia.
I’ve never driven a bad car built by them.
That's a decent amount of pep in a lighter car, but not in a heavy mid-sized sedan like the Avalon. I never considered the Avalon a full size sedan when compared to American and German cars (BMW 7 iL series). For Japanese I agree that the Avalon is big, but not really. I always felt the Avalon was a great touring luxury car with fairly soft ride and somewhat aggressive in the power band, but to be honest they are heavy and slow when compared to even smaller economy cars like the Corolla S or any Civic with their small 4 cylinder <160 HP engines. The Avalon would have been a lot more exciting with a 305 or maybe a 350 engine, but you only see those in the Lexus line.
I’ve got a 2wd 2001 chevy blazer 4dr with 304k, original drivetrain, still gets 22mpg, but oil pressure is getting low at 30 psi when warmed up and at hwy speeds. AC failed a while back, but it’s our spare nowadays so I’m not going to fix that.
I know the Avalon is not full-sized, but neither was the last Chevy Impala. I like a soft ride, and miss the ‘72 Impala, the ‘70 Olds ‘98, and even the ‘94 Caprice Wagon for room and comfort. I like heavy cars as heavy cars tend to have a smoother ride. For pop I once had a ‘65 Chrysler 300 (lead sled) 2 door hardtop coupe, and the 383 with the four barrel carb and dual exhaust moved the heavy car very quickly. Chrysler used to be good on off the line movement, even in the heavy cars.
Yeah, the good old days of big American cars died with the Jimmy Carter stagflation period and soon no one will even be allowed to own a car if the government has their way.
I had a 2001 Kia Sportage. It was fine. At 86K miles I took it in because it was running rough. I got a call that it had a cracked block. A day later I had a new engine, no charge.
Pretty good car, great company.
I just got another Volvo XC60. Great crossover, built really well, and tons of useful options. I got the T8 recharge plugin Hybrid. Not because it gets simpy liberal men a boner, but because it has 455hp and close to 500lbs of torque. It does 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and is whisper quiet. I’ve had maybe 25 cars in my life from a 1969 Z28 Camaro to an SRT8 Dodge Charger and I’d take this SUV in drag race all day long. Blast to drive.
A continuous variable transmission is enough to keep me from purchasing any car with it.
That you compare a 750iL to an Avalon (which is less than half the cost) says what anyone needs to know.
I can see why you wouldn’t want another Hyundai, but we had a Sonata Limited (V6) and it was great.
Absolutely love my 2018 Camry Hybrid. Averaging just over 53 MPG and can easily get over 60 MPG. Get better mileage in summer because the heater isn’t running.
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