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Ukraine forces use new American howitzers on Russian positions on Russian positions
The Sun via Youtube ^ | May 16, 2022 | The Sun

Posted on 05/16/2022 5:40:59 AM PDT by GonzoII

Ukraine's armed forces released a video on Sunday (May 15) saying it said showed servicemen firing new U.S. M-777 howitzers at the front line in the east of the country.

The video showed its soldiers firing an artillery gun. Reuters could not independently verify the video.

The U.S. embassy in Kyiv said on Sunday that Washington has delivered all but one of the 90 artillery pieces they were due to send.

The M-777 howitzer consignment is part of a huge outlay of weapons from Washington to help Ukraine fend off Russia's invasion, which began on Feb. 24.

The M-777 is seen as particularly significant because of its long range and accuracy….


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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: 155mm; howitzer; m777; russia; ukraine
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1 posted on 05/16/2022 5:40:59 AM PDT by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

Sweet!


2 posted on 05/16/2022 5:45:19 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: GonzoII

3 posted on 05/16/2022 5:48:32 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: HYPOCRACY

Jimmy Two Times!


4 posted on 05/16/2022 5:55:52 AM PDT by desertsolitaire
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To: GonzoII
Interesting method to seat the trails!

Makes you wonder how close that first round was, given the reduction in muzzle velocity while it ran three feet back to dig the trails in.

5 posted on 05/16/2022 5:56:50 AM PDT by Chainmail (Harrassment, to be effective, must be continuous.)
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To: GonzoII

Great, now you have to re-tram the gun.


6 posted on 05/16/2022 5:57:04 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: GonzoII

Russian artillery is outranged


7 posted on 05/16/2022 6:00:20 AM PDT by bert ( (KW?E. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: GonzoII
Also noticed that the Ukrainian gun crew clustered a bit - need just a bit more training in crew duties/positions and that the gun didn't have an aiming gyro fitted in its bracket on the gun tube - and the gunner's using the panoramic telescope for aiming.

Must mean we aren't supplying those puppies with the guns. Shame - it makes things faster and more precise.

8 posted on 05/16/2022 6:02:14 AM PDT by Chainmail (Harrassment, to be effective, must be continuous.)
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To: GonzoII

What happens when Ukraine doesn’t have enough trained soldiers to fire the howitzers?


9 posted on 05/16/2022 6:03:38 AM PDT by Prolixus (In all seriousness:)
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To: Prolixus

Supply the guns and training will appear


10 posted on 05/16/2022 6:06:17 AM PDT by bert ( (KW?E. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: GonzoII

“Ukraine forces use new American Ukraine forces use new American howitzers on Russian positionss on Russian positions”

Did Kamala write the headline?


11 posted on 05/16/2022 6:13:54 AM PDT by Neverlift (When someone says "you just can't make this stuff up" odds are good, somebody did.)
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To: bert

“Supply the guns and training will appear”

Magical thinking.

In reality, remember this is Ukraine, supply the guns and some will be sold on the black market and others will be involved in friendly fire accidents.

Of course, the Democrats and their media will ignore these issues and, if something can’t be ignored, will blame Putin and Russians in general.

Now, why don’t we send some diplomats to Ukraine and Russia to work out a deal for a cease-fire?

The U.S. government has that power and it would save us from paying billions to Ukraine and worse.


12 posted on 05/16/2022 6:16:21 AM PDT by Prolixus (In all seriousness:)
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The projectile was long out of the barrel before the trails moved an inch.

It would be fine if they were using the Excaliber munition.

It is a smart munition which can steer to the target. It has an accuracy of 4 meters at 22 miles.

Only one or two rounds are needed to take out an tank or an artillery piece.

13 posted on 05/16/2022 6:19:36 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Prolixus

Linda Graham will volunteer.


14 posted on 05/16/2022 6:26:39 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: Prolixus

Ukraine has quite a lot of trained gunners, just not on this particular system. IIRC it had at least 30 artillery battalions prewar, to which you can add a bunch of reservists.

And also IIRC Ukraine has been sending men abroad to train, probably these are serving artillerymen for conversion training.

As for negotiations, thats going to happen when both sides are ready and not before. None of that works otherwise. Russia still seems to have hopes of creating favorable facts on the ground, and now so also does Ukraine. Maybe in another month.


15 posted on 05/16/2022 6:34:33 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: bert

IIRC the guns came with a training package as well as ammo, prime movers, etc.


16 posted on 05/16/2022 6:35:51 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: marktwain; Yo-Yo; Chainmail

Post #1 is a GIF from Iraq or Afghanistan....


17 posted on 05/16/2022 6:48:05 AM PDT by GonzoII ("If the new crime be, to believe in God, let us all be criminals" -Sheen )
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To: Prolixus
What happens when Ukraine doesn’t have enough trained soldiers to fire the howitzers?

Is this a sincere-but-naïve question? A valid request for actual information?

Or is this a malign, provocative question, designed to sow despair and misinformation through insinuation?

I'm guessing the latter, in which case I would respond with:

"Then the Ukrainians will wring their hands and lose all hope and surrender!"

However, if it was the former, then:

"Train more soldiers and continue kicking Russian *ss!"

Regards,

18 posted on 05/16/2022 6:52:24 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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Post #1 is a GIF from Iraq or Afghanistan....

I thought as much.

The USA used the Excalibur munitions in Afghanistan.

They work very well. They are very effective on targets such as tanks, self propelled artillery, and towed artillery.

I found the Russian videos of self propelled artillery, digging into positions, to be indicative of digging their own graves.

Very difficult to hide that from satellite surveillance and/or drones. You have to keep moving and hiding to survive in this war.

The M777 artillery is pretty good to shoot and scoot.

Fixed positions are death traps when the opposition is armed with smart munitions.

19 posted on 05/16/2022 6:58:23 AM PDT by marktwain
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Oddly enough, I am quite familiar with the wonderfully precise and crazy expensive Excalibur - I was an artillery battalion commander for 18 months.

The "long out the barrel (tube, to artillerymen)" is not true; I conducted a number of firing tests over the years that demonstrated that muzzle velocity is strongly affected by recoil movement. I even found that a mortar fired from the back of a Light Armored Vehicle had different muzzle velocities for each angle away from the long axis of the vehicle because of suspension deflection/amount of air in the tires!

Advances in first-round precision can even make good old (and cheaper) HE fuze Quick one-shot wonders (("15 mile snipers") using advanced aiming and fire control and very uniform muzzle velocities.

Got over 40 years in artillery!

20 posted on 05/16/2022 7:01:35 AM PDT by Chainmail (Harrassment, to be effective, must be continuous.)
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