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Hydrofluoric acid: the chemical hazard hiding in electric and hybrid vehicle batteries
Prosol UK ^ | 5/01/2022 | Prosol

Posted on 05/07/2022 7:51:09 AM PDT by fireman15

Ever wondered what types of batteries are used to power electric and hybrid vehicles (EHVs)? Well, the majority of EHVs being driven on our roads today will use lithium-ion (Li-ion) or lithium polymer batteries. ...

They pose a potentially lethal chemical hazard to anyone working on or near EHVs. ...

Since the electrolyte is a liquid, there is always the possibility that it could leak from inside the battery – we’ve all seen standard AA batteries that have leaked leaving white potassium hydroxide crystals on their outer casing, right? Well, that’s the danger with lithium-ion batteries. If the electrolyte inside them does leak and comes into contact with moisture in the air or water, a chemical reaction happens and hydrofluoric acid is produced. ...

Hydrofluoric acid is a solution of hydrogen fluoride in water. A colorless liquid, hydrofluoric acid is highly corrosive – it can dissolve glass! – and is extremely toxic. If it comes into contact with our skin or eyes, it can cause severe chemical burns that are very painful and slow to heal. If left untreated, it is absorbed into the body’s tissues and bones causing their destruction. It interferes with our body’s calcium metabolism and contact with concentrated hydrofluoric acid can result in systemic toxicity, cardiac arrest and even death.

Perhaps the most disquieting and sinister property of hydrofluoric acid is the delayed serious tissue damage it can cause. If your skins is exposed to just one tiny drop of low concentration of hydrofluoric acid, it may not produce any immediate pain or burning sensation. It may take several hours for any pain to materialise at which point irreparable damage could have been done. For this very reason, any exposure to hydrofluoric acid, however small, must be considered significant and immediate first aid must be administered.

(Excerpt) Read more at prosol.co.uk ...


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As a long time Hazmat officer I can tell you that there are very few substances scarier to work with than hydrofluoric acid. I met people who had severe injuries after they had exposures. The biggest problem is that once it is absorbed in your body... it causes severe problems with your bones and can also cause heart failure.

One person I met had to have his arm below the elbow amputated after a pin prick in his glove caused an exposure. The exposure was not painful or noticed to begin with, but by the next day he had a severe problem. Despite receiving treatment after that the problems kept getting worse.

1 posted on 05/07/2022 7:51:09 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15

Yeah, but it’s for the environment.


2 posted on 05/07/2022 7:52:38 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: fireman15

Yeah, this is the stuff you want if you need to get rid of a body with no chance that there will be anything left, not even the teeth. Nasty stuff.

However, normal car batteries also usually contain acid, sulfuric acid I believe. So you should always be careful around a leaking battery, even if it’s not an electric/hybrid battery.


3 posted on 05/07/2022 7:54:47 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: fireman15

Teflon can generate significant concentrations of HF if overheated (above 500°F).


4 posted on 05/07/2022 7:55:03 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: fireman15

Our materials science professor warned us about this stuff—you have to use it to etch titanium alloys for visualization under the electron microscope.

He warned to be careful or it will rot your bones. You are right.


5 posted on 05/07/2022 7:57:15 AM PDT by packagingguy
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To: fireman15

The huge amount of lithium ion battery waste that will be the result of both electric vehicles and electronic gadgets is going to cause severe problems in the future. Of course the amount of lithium ion battery waste from an electric vehicles is thousands of time greater than that from a cell phone or laptop.

But this is a reminder to properly dispose of the old lithium ion batteries from your old gadgets... They can be very detrimental to your health under the wrong circumstances.


6 posted on 05/07/2022 7:57:22 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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I worked at a chemical plant that used a lot of it.

You don’t even know you got some on you until your bones start to dissolve.


7 posted on 05/07/2022 7:57:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Your bat-excrement crazy mental illness does not impose an obligation upon me to deny reality.)
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900lbs and Toxic


8 posted on 05/07/2022 8:00:22 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: fireman15

I use to haul that by the truckload back in my 20’s. Complete neoprene suit, gloves, boots and hood when hooking up hoses when unloading.


9 posted on 05/07/2022 8:01:32 AM PDT by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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To: fireman15

I trust NOTHING the government pushes.

In fact, if the government pushes it, I avoid it.

The basic purpose of government is to kill - a good central government is there to kill enemy invaders externally and let local government deal with the crimes of their own citizens.

Government is NEVER designed to care for you and “love” you. Free individuals take care of themselves and each other for stuff like that.

Fascist and totalitarian governments rise only among an ignorant and gullible populace.


10 posted on 05/07/2022 8:02:08 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: fireman15

Oh my goodness! When can we read about this in the NYT, WSJ, or see it on ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC?

Somebody needs to call Bill Gates or Anthony Fauci. They will take care of it — pronto.


11 posted on 05/07/2022 8:03:08 AM PDT by icclearly
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To: fireman15

What the chemical reaction chain from a LiOH battery overheating and the fluoride ion?


12 posted on 05/07/2022 8:06:11 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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I had a lab class in college where we were creating simple LEDs and transistors on silicon where we had to handle HF. The instructor recommended washing thoroughly after handling, even with gloves, to avoid injuries. You don’t know if you have HF affecting you until it is too late.

The lab had some graphic B&W images of HF injuries. Needless to say, we spent a lot of time washing afterwards.


13 posted on 05/07/2022 8:06:19 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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The EV train has left the station and there is no stopping it.

Just like any potential problems with the Covid vaccine were brushed aside.

The witch doctors in the old Tarzan movies were better scientists than what we have today.


14 posted on 05/07/2022 8:07:02 AM PDT by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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Hmm. What would you do if brand name batteries, aka Duracell, Everready, were leaking BEFORE the use by date. Never used, just toxicly leaking out in packaging.

I have this quite often.


15 posted on 05/07/2022 8:07:21 AM PDT by George from New England
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Yeah, but it's for the environment.

It is amazing how when it is an idea from the greenies that it does not matter how much damage is caused... it's all OK. Like these bird and bat chopping windmills... If you killed rats with poison and a bald eagle ate one of the carcasses and died, you could be facing prison time. But if the windmills next door killed dozens of eagles, until they were all dead... No problem!

16 posted on 05/07/2022 8:08:11 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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Maybe they could dig a deep hole in the desert and store it there.

Oh wait, we tried to do that with nuke waste and the NIMSY's (Not In My State) vetoed it.

17 posted on 05/07/2022 8:09:12 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: Boogieman

So my ‘taste test’ to see if a 9 volt battery is good — is bad ?


18 posted on 05/07/2022 8:09:17 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: alternatives?

> The EV train has left the station and there is no stopping it. <

Unfortunately, you are correct. The ‘Powers That Be’ have added EVs to their long list of things that cannot be debated under any circumstances. Obey and accept, or be pushed aside.


19 posted on 05/07/2022 8:18:31 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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As always, the propaganda about electric cars intentionally hides the negative effects. So the public believes the nonsense about electric cars, worships at the altar of “the environment” and buys they cars.

Much later the harmful effects are “discovered”, but it’s too late.


20 posted on 05/07/2022 8:20:56 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Government, when allowed to expand, always ends up using its power, and our $, to protect its power.)
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