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Weekly Garden Thread - April 29- May 6, 2022 [Plant By The Light of the Moon Edition]
April 29, 2022 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 04/30/2022 6:05:05 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a week Ping List. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
Yes, 'Weber' is in the freezer. I made up some stickers on the meat I shared with my Mom, Sister & BFF:

Next steer is going to be named, 'Chuck.' Of course, he has to LOOK like a 'Chuck' so we'll see! I like 'Freezer Burn,' LOL!

121 posted on 05/05/2022 9:49:03 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

LOVE the idea of using the barn foundation as a garden. It’s situated perfectly for that.

Don’t hold your breath on ANY of this actually happening. Beau has his own ideas about things and I’m just the Trained Monkey Foreman’s Helper around here. ;)


122 posted on 05/05/2022 9:52:16 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: All
I found the 'parts' I needed to make this at Dollar Tree, so keep your eyes open if you want one, too!

I initially used one made from a grocery basket with handles that I 'borrowed' from Jung's (I returned it!) and a big metal washtub. That worked too, but wasn't as cute and portable.

123 posted on 05/05/2022 9:57:41 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Well, at least you have some resources for resale of the timber beams! Beau will not have to do all the work!

Of course, keep enough to frame your potential green house / garden lounge!


124 posted on 05/05/2022 6:23:17 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

I really want a ‘She Shed’ but Beau says the entire HOUSE is my She Shed.

He has a point. :)


125 posted on 05/05/2022 7:38:28 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: campaignPete R-CT
Sounds like everyone else on these threads is invasive free.

Does grass count? Rocks? LOL

I did have some horse thistle after having brought in some horse manure. Manure was too old to get it going as compost to cook the thistle seeds. I think I got just about all of it. I think the goats will have all the poison ivy inside the fence taken care of this year.

126 posted on 05/06/2022 6:55:58 AM PDT by Pollard (Don't ask if there's a conspiracy. If you're not in one, you need to start one. CA Fitts)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
As suspected, we are going from Winter STRAIGHT to Summer!

Always happens here in May. High of 61 today, 48 tonight with NW gusts to 23mph, then 90 starting in a couple of days for who knows how long. Spring temps are mostly rainy/windy days. Ground is sopping wet right now. Hopefully will be dry enough tomorrow afternoon, 72 degrees, to plant everything out. Sun will be 78 and then it's off to the 90s and coming off of Winter/Spring, that will feel like 100s.

That's why most people here don't even bother stepping foot in the garden until mid to late May. Hard to find a day or two when you can step on the garden without sinking and tilling requires even drier than walking on. The lettuce is loving it but won't be loving 90 degrees Monday. Guess I'll snip some salad Mon morning to reduce leaf area. Need hoop house(s) so I can start earlier and control moisture/wind.

127 posted on 05/06/2022 7:15:06 AM PDT by Pollard (Don't ask if there's a conspiracy. If you're not in one, you need to start one. CA Fitts)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

If you let someone come in to tear down the barn, make sure they sign some kind of liability waiver so they can’t sue you if they get hurt on your property. I had to do that when I tore down a fire damaged house for materials used to build this place and didn’t mind signing it. Most of it was structurally sound though so any injury to me would have been from me doing something stupid.

Old barn wood goes for $2/board foot around here. Roofing tin with patina is used for decorative purposes in bars, restaurants and people’s houses for the rustic look. Large beams are big money, especially if hand hewn.


128 posted on 05/06/2022 7:30:29 AM PDT by Pollard (Don't ask if there's a conspiracy. If you're not in one, you need to start one. CA Fitts)
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129 posted on 05/06/2022 7:30:50 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Pollard
Thanks for the tip. I would definitely hire it out for demolition. We gave a ton of lumber to a friend of ours for her shop. She cleaned it all, but left it as-is, then used it to cover one wall in her shop for a rustic look. It was flooring that Beau pulled out of another barn somewhere along the line.

New Rose, New Glarus, WI.

130 posted on 05/06/2022 7:52:13 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Pollard

She worked for Victoria’s Secret for ages; she was in charge of designing all the windows for all the stores all over the world.

This girl KNOWS how to merchandise and sell you things you don’t need, LOL! :)


131 posted on 05/06/2022 7:55:19 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

You could name the next one “Marble”


132 posted on 05/06/2022 1:16:31 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Pollard

Pollard! Waiver! Excellent advice!

(But she needs to keep enough timber for that greenhouse/ winter lounge on the bermed North Wall foudation! That long bermed house picture you had would provide some good ideas!)


133 posted on 05/06/2022 1:19:15 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I have the exact same basket as the red one only ours us green. Have had it for about 15 years. Used it first to hold a flake of hay or fresh grass we cut for the goats. Now it’s a weed bin when I am pruning or doing yard cleanup like picking up sticks. They hold a lot and are lightweight. Many uses.


134 posted on 05/06/2022 1:20:50 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

It might be made of rough sawn oak. That stuff is hard to work with and usually warped in those old barns. Have to predrill a hole just to nail it. Tough to cut with a saw too. A 2x4 measurements will vary from less than 2 or 4 to more than 2 or 4. I don’t think Beau would want to mess with the headaches involved in working with it.


135 posted on 05/06/2022 2:08:37 PM PDT by Pollard (Don't ask if there's a conspiracy. If you're not in one, you need to start one. CA Fitts)
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To: MomwithHope

I like ‘Marble.’ :)

I went on a grocery run today to Walmart, so of COURSE I had to cruise the garden center. Still not a lot out; I’m sure they are delaying deliveries due to it being so cold - but we’re catching up!

I found the Shishito Peppers from Bonnie! I bought two, but one pot had two peppers in it so, SCORE! (I always look for a bonus when buying plants.) So, I should have 4 plants total and can’t wait to taste them!

I also found some Cubanelle - not sure if those were the other ones you recommended, but they were sweet, so I thought I’d try them, too.

And I bought ONE Jalapeno plant - which is all I ever need and a Sungold Cherry-type tomato because I had old seed and nothing germinated.

The puppies chewed through the twinkle lights I had on my porch, so I took those down the other day and put up some fresh Party Lights so I am ready to rock!

Also bought herbs and planted them in my raised planter on said porch. I added some purple pansies (’Blueberry Thrill’) and red romaine lettuce to the mix and it looks very pretty. Convenient, too; right out my kitchen door. :)

I’m ready for those @#$%^&*! 80’s we’re supposed to get next week. Now I’ll be moving things OUT of the greenhouse because it’s going to be over 100 degrees in there! I can’t win this season. :(


136 posted on 05/06/2022 4:55:58 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Back in when I was a kid I read a book on cultivating mushrooms. (I was a weird kid.) There’s actually something about the chemical structure of ashes that morels thrive on. The book even had photos of morels growing out of the ashes left in someone’s charcoal grill. The enclosed manufactured kind, not a fire-pit.

So yes, doing a controlled burn on your morel patch should help. But if you can’t, you can still get some benefit just by spreading ashes over the soil.


137 posted on 05/06/2022 5:06:56 PM PDT by Ellendra (A single lie on our side does more damage than a thousand lies on their side.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’ve checked every day the past 3 days. No Bonnie truck has been to the 2 stops in our town. Will check again tomorrow. Congrats on scoring the peppers. Mine still not up. 3rd set of jiffy pellets. But I have 4 or 5 Costa Rican red pepper plants up and it’s been more than 6 years since I gave had any. The Chef Jeff’s brand used to sell them at a nursery 30 minutes away but they stopped. Our temps forecast looks much like yours, I am anxious to plant. I looked up old morel pictures and found 2 . Both dated May 11 different years, there may be something to that for our property. I always think of rain and warm days but I would bet the ground needs to be warm enough too.


138 posted on 05/06/2022 5:11:23 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Ellendra

Ellendra, Thanks! No, not weird growing up wanting to understand growing things!

I have an area in the back under an Elm Tree that has pushed up some morels in the past. I have some oak charcoal that I might spread on that area since I put the ashes from my grill in the compost already! Not going to burn off the floral border just yet!

My last house had chanterelle mushrooms growing under a shingle oak. I spent some time trying to figure out how to propogate them. I did manage to move them to the base of a white oak just before I moved. I found an article by a Swede who was associating their mycelium with a young spruce tree in order to farm them. You normally have to wait 10 years apparently! Interesting!

(Corn Smut! Your nearest markets for corn smut would be Chicago and Milwaukee. :)

https://blog.mycology.cornell.edu/2007/11/13/huitlacoche/

https://www.baldorfood.com/product/vegetables/co4a-frozen-huitlacoche

https://www.marxfoods.com/Frozen-Huitlacoche ( selling 2 lbs frozen for $198! in New Jersey)


139 posted on 05/06/2022 5:54:10 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Pollard; Diana in Wisconsin

Perfect sense!

There are a lot of problems working with old barn timbers oak or not! Cant Plane them down because farmers would tack things up on the posts and the nails or remnants of nails ruin planer blades. Probably better to just buy new posts and joists.


140 posted on 05/06/2022 6:00:25 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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