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Weekly Garden Thread - April 29- May 6, 2022 [Plant By The Light of the Moon Edition]
April 29, 2022 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 04/30/2022 6:05:05 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a week Ping List. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
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To: LilFarmer

Juniper like acidic soil, so if you can find some Miracid (by Miracle Grow) and give it a fertilization this spring and summer (hold off in the fall; it’ll be going dormant and you’re just wasting product) that might give it a kick in the pants. It don’t think the vetch matters one way or the other. Pull it now if you want.

When I moved here, there was a perennial garden that was sorely neglected. There was a Juniper in there that had every sort of grass and weed growing up through it and it was browning and VERY unhappy. I gave it a good pruning - ended up looking like a big Bonzai, and a few shots of the Miracid and it looks great now - producing berries and everything, so I know it’s happy.


101 posted on 05/04/2022 7:54:40 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Pollard

Yummy! :)


102 posted on 05/04/2022 7:55:18 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: FamiliarFace
Here's the Indigo Bunting this time of year, two years ago:


103 posted on 05/04/2022 8:21:00 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Really nice! I’ve seen the Indigo here a few times since my first sighting a week or so ago. Today I’ve had a male Summer Tanager at my jelly feeder. I had no idea they would eat jelly. He’s been by at least 4 times today when I happened to catch him there. I wonder how many times I’ve missed him, and if he’s just passing through.

P.S. where do you get your photos downloaded so that they can be shared here?


104 posted on 05/04/2022 8:31:49 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I wish “smart resume” would work for the real world so I could FF through the Burden admin BS.)
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To: FamiliarFace; All

“P.S. where do you get your photos downloaded so that they can be shared here?”

I have a private FB page and link my photos from there because I want that weasel Zuckerburg to pay for the hosting. ;)

Others will chime in with hosting sites, I’m sure.

Waiting on the Orioles and Tanagers. I think I may put my Oriole feeder out today, since the Grosbeaks are here and that’s usually a good sign.


105 posted on 05/04/2022 9:27:24 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Yes, the Orioles came soon after the Grosbeaks. I can’t believe this Summer Tanager has come to my jelly feeder so many times today already.

Thanks for the tip on the photos. I have an account on FB but don’t use it to post. I’ve tried another one (tiny pic I think it was called) but the photos never seem as clear as the ones I download. Maybe that’s because it’s free?


106 posted on 05/04/2022 10:16:20 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I wish “smart resume” would work for the real world so I could FF through the Burden admin BS.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Ellendra; Pollard; Augie; metmom; MomwithHope; little jeremiah
This spring's progress on my (small) the low tunnel raised bed garden. (Here are some advantages of using garden fabric low tunnels in early spring and choosing hardy early maturing varieties. )

Notes; The seedlings were started in jiffy posts indoors under lights; They were fertilized a week after sprouting while under lights. (Early March). When I moved to the garden and planted I added Tomato Tone 4-5-4 I think and Dr Fertilizer (?) (With alfalfa and some other things) some humic acid and bird guano (0-0-8). 2 weeks later I added some bat guano fertilizer. 1 week ago I brewed 5 gallons of compost tea (Boogie Brew 24 hours using un-chlorinated water) added some fish and kelp emulsion (From Peaceful valley) and applied it 6 days before the last pictures. If it did not rain would use irrigation every 3-4 days.

This was March 21 with and without the cover: I planted Peas and Turnips.

This was April 9 after planting lettuce and chinese vegetables (Chinese Cabbage and Early and pink Mazuma. I also planted a couple of rutabaga, choi, and lettuce. ) In the back ground-- The tunnel over the peas and turnips had been removed to put up chicken wire to support the peas. (On 2 or 3 cold days I used a tarp over 2 of the low tunnels Down to about 18 degrees. I did not include that picture here.)

This was on May 3rd. ( Spinach, cilantro and dill at bottom; above that Early Mizuna, Red Oak leaf lettuce, above that Golden chinese cabbage (left) I think Rutabaga, and right, butterhead lettuce. Next frame over; Winter Choy, pink mazuma, chinese cabbage, and more tatsoi.

Golden Chinese Cabbage with someone's hand in the picture for scale. (My hand is about 8-9" across.)

Row Planted April 14, picture on May 3rd: (Tatsoi, Early Doll tomato, above that Rutabaga (left) Winter density lettuce: another tomato, Parris island cos, ; Next frame, More lettuce including Merveille de quarte saison, red sails, Intred, Flashy Trouts back, Yatkouli (sp?) More tomatoes.

Garden picture to view change from March 21 to May 4:

Put my extra jiffy pot lettuce seedlings in 1 gallon pots and grew on the back porch until 2 weeks ago, when I put them out under a mostly unoccupied low tunnel. When I planted in those areas I moved them back onto the back porch.

May 1 to May 10s are average last frost dates in my location. (Snowed last year on May 5.)

Average Last Frost dates Kansas

The garden fabric was not expensive to purchase. (Lumber for the frames was!)

107 posted on 05/04/2022 5:19:24 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission (6B KS/MO border 1105' Elevation KS/MO border )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

jiffy posts
Tomato Tone 4-5-4
Dr Fertilizer
humic acid
bird guano (0-0-8)
bat guano fertilizer
Boogie Brew
fish and kelp emulsion (From Peaceful valley

Sounds expensive


108 posted on 05/04/2022 5:27:14 PM PDT by Pollard (Don't ask if there's a conspiracy. If you're not in one, you need to start one. CA Fitts)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Beautiful bird! I have never seen one!


109 posted on 05/04/2022 5:28:17 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission (6B KS/MO border 1105' Elevation KS/MO border )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’ve used field stone to make raised beds.


110 posted on 05/04/2022 5:33:01 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: LilFarmer

Would that be crown vetch?

We have that stuff growing all over the place. It’s very invasive.


111 posted on 05/04/2022 5:36:33 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: metmom

I think what I have is common vetch because of the flowers. But I think I have it coming up in other places as well. It may be one of those plants that’s more invasive in warmer climates too


112 posted on 05/04/2022 6:17:39 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: Pollard
Pollard, I suppose that for some people it is, especially if purchased at current prices.

I buy fertilizers in bigger size bags from places like Jung or Peaceful valley or Sutherlands when I can and use them over several seasons. (Taking advantage of economy of scale purchasing in larger sizes.)

25 jiffy peat pellets were $3.50 at Sutherlands.

Tomato Tone 15 Lbs ?. I think $27 purchased 4 years ago.

Dr Fertilizer 3 Lbs ? $12 this year Sutherlands. (I will use it up this year and buy more!)

Humic Acid 20 Lbs $30 4 years ago. (This should last for another 5 years at least!)

Bird Guano Fertilizer 25 Lb bag. $35 2 years ago Probably $45 with shipping. (I still have 3/4 of a bag. 3-4 years more use?)

Sumatan bat Guano 7-8 Lbs $25 3 years ago. Almost gone.

Boogie brew. I purchased the filter to remove chlorine since I am on city water. He includes a throw in sample for the compost tea. The filter was $35?

Fish and kelp emulsion. I purchased them 5 years ago and I do not recall how much they cost. Probably about $20 per gallon. (A little goes a long way. & Don't spill anywhere in or near your house!) I am down to 1/4 of a gallon at this point.


I spent $26 on a 8' x 50' roll of lightweight gardening fabric. (Thicker fabric for more cold protection are available and cost more.)

I spent $45 on a 48" x 50 role of garden fencing that I used for the hoops. I expect 3-4 seasons of use from these.

Haven't had anything dug up by a squirrel or pecked at by a bird. Cabbage looper moths were fluttering about last week with no access to anything under the fabric. No loss to frost in this time. Only problems are with sow bugs/pill bugs that eat small plants. (germinated spinach for example.)

113 posted on 05/04/2022 6:45:04 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission (6B KS/MO border 1105' Elevation KS/MO border )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Well that sounds better. Aside from the Jiffy Pots, everything lasts for some number of years.


114 posted on 05/04/2022 7:07:55 PM PDT by Pollard (Don't ask if there's a conspiracy. If you're not in one, you need to start one. CA Fitts)
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To: Pollard

It’s another weekly thread and what am I doing this week?

Same activity as last week.

In my woods ... hand-pulling garlic mustard. It’s gone to seed already, so the time to pull is now or never. Sending to the dump

My dog accompanies me, but he doesn’t understand. My cats scared off the feral goats ... and deer, rabbits, & turkeys don’t eat the stuff.

Sounds like everyone else on these threads is invasive free.


115 posted on 05/04/2022 7:08:26 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (I owe, I owe, it's off to work I go ...)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

We’re not invasive free by any means.


116 posted on 05/04/2022 8:35:09 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
Looking good, Pete! As suspected, we are going from Winter STRAIGHT to Summer! Ugh! No, I take that back We had TWO 'spring' days in March and one in April and yesterday, in May, LOL! It's always something!

Looks like I will be doing all the crops I normally do in the Spring, in the Fall this season. At least I have that option!

117 posted on 05/05/2022 5:56:22 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/195e999bd129ae70f07d61c7ca8629e414b925c1ffe2d1511ac2f4a0c54850e2

Summer for one week. Back to spring the following week


118 posted on 05/05/2022 7:19:06 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (I owe, I owe, it's off to work I go ...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Recycle the metal roof and see if someone will buy the old timbers. (Says the son of a carpenter/contractor.) Someone might dis-assmble the building for you for free!

http://wisconsinbarnboardandbeam.com/

http://www.thebarnpages.com/barnwoodforsale.cfm

Maybe Think about a garden and green house inside old barn foundation. I cant find the picture but someone filled up interior with dirt ans soil and gardened inside the walls. Raise the north wall using south wall stone, berm it on the outside, build a lean to green house with a south face.

https://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/the-greenhouse-dream-fulfilled/

https://permies.com/t/143655/Bank-barn-foundation-passive-greenhouse

119 posted on 05/05/2022 8:58:52 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Low tunnels = $aving $ and good practice for extended duration Democrat mis-rule. (2 weeks of Ds qualifies as extended.)

Fall beets, cabbage, and lettuce put on hold! At least you have Webster to help you out this summer with your food supply!

(Webster.....new cow better names: Red grilling Cow#4, Freezer Burn, Butcher Block, or Barbecue Ribs#2! :)

Chickens and quail grow faster than cows don't they? Not big enough for a name! Oh well...

120 posted on 05/05/2022 9:26:36 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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