Posted on 04/18/2022 3:22:23 AM PDT by GonzoII
First images have emerged appearing to show Russian Black Sea flagship Moskva on fire shortly before it sank Pictures show the ship billowing smoke, sitting low in the water, listing to port with damage on its left side Images are consistent with Ukrainian claims that they shot it with two missiles before it rolled and sank, and seem to contradict Russian accounts that the vessel went down in rough seas Came as conscripts who survived the sinking gave first accounts to their families of horrors suffered on board....
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There is no hope for Putinistas. I don’t care what they think.
They’re as brain dead as Never Trumpers. Just a different variety of idiot.
What is Putinista?
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Yeah, there's definitely a lot of 'brain dead idiots' around...
(\sarc ;>)
Oh, stop being silly.
One does not have to believe anything idiot Biden says to also know Putin is a bad guy. And just because Biden says Putin is a bad guy, that does not make Putin a good guy.
Democrats specialize in half truths, just like the Snake in the Garden.
They’re like Never Trumpers, but live in a trailer park.
“The pro-Putin posters here are paid by Putin. It’s the only explanation for the tenacity and irrationality. It’s their job.”
About half, I think. The rest are just stupid.
What Oblast are you from?
War sucks. Though to be fair, this particular war started back in 2014.
“You can tell they work off a script and only engage certain posters. The “Ukes are Nazis” tend to fall into this camp. (Yes, there are plenty of Nazi Ukrainians. More Russian. Lots in the USA, too. Russia used to alternate stories of the USA being controlled by Jews (aka “the NWO”) and controlled by Nazis.)”
Correct.
The Russians have two narratives they have been using since before WWII — bad guys are either Nazis or are “controlled by capitalists/Jews/bankers”.
They used that to describe the USA throughout the Cold War. They loved their stories about white nationalists throughout the 1980s in Pravda. You would have though Nazis were around every corner.
This was, illogically, followed only by stories about Israel controlling the USA.
The American Left uses this same description of Republicans. Holds up a picture (sometimes staged) of some fat idiots marching with starched shirts and SS flags as the base of the Republican party.
Then have ANTIFA attack Jews.
And the Russians continue to use both extremes now to describe both the USA and the Ukraine, although the Jewish stuff is vaguely couched in accusations that it is the base camp of the New World Order.
There’s enough hint of truth in the nonsense to get losers who wants someone to blame to believe it.
You apparently aren’t happy that the Russian Vessel was sunk.
In fact, you’re full of ad hominem that you think Nuking the Ukrainians is called for.
Crawl back under your rock.
“To: buwaya
yawn.
do you think Putin will DARE to use a nUKe on the Ukes?
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Who has the trump card here (no pun intended)?
I give Putin a bit of respect in this regard, as he seems to be showing restraint.
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The leaders of Russia have stated a believable argument that they face an EXISTENTIAL threat.
Please tell me what the ULTIMATE weapon is good for, if not for the ELIMINATION of existential threat/s.
78 posted on 4/17/2022, 2:29:32 PM by Honest Nigerian
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Hey, I'm not the one calling Freepers with whom I disagree "brain dead" and "idiots".
One does not have to believe anything idiot Biden says to also know Putin is a bad guy. And just because Biden says Putin is a bad guy, that does not make Putin a good guy.
I do not believe the US has treaty obligations or vital interests in Ukraine; I therefore do not believe we should get involved militarily, and consequently risk nuclear war with Russia. That does not suggest that I think Putin is "a good guy" (or that I am a 'Never Trumper' - in fact, I've probably donated more money to Mr. Trump than most of the folks throwing insults ;>).
Democrats specialize in half truths, just like the Snake in the Garden.
And a failure to 'stick to the facts' is obviously not limited to just Democrats or snakes...
How much are the Democrats paying you to push Biden's agenda on FR?
(\sarc ;>)
Go find where I suggested the US should get involved militarily.
I’ll wait. (I’ll give you a hint: never have. That’s a straw man created by Putinistas.)
“Why do I get the impression we were involved in this sinking?”
We did not sink it. We probably provided intel that lead to the sinking.
Jb: "About half, I think. The rest are just stupid."
And even more thoughtful input for 'rational' discussion, from two of our more 'tenacious' (and probably 'well paid') participants. Well done - you're definitely 'earning your keep'!
(\sarc ;>)
If you think opposing Putin is the agenda only of Biden there’s not much I can do for you.
“Yeah, there’s definitely a lot of ‘brain dead idiots’ around.”
Around your home, perhaps.
I don’t see a single poster advocating for military action against Russia.
And yet you keep tilting at this windmill.
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