Posted on 04/18/2022 3:22:23 AM PDT by GonzoII
First images have emerged appearing to show Russian Black Sea flagship Moskva on fire shortly before it sank Pictures show the ship billowing smoke, sitting low in the water, listing to port with damage on its left side Images are consistent with Ukrainian claims that they shot it with two missiles before it rolled and sank, and seem to contradict Russian accounts that the vessel went down in rough seas Came as conscripts who survived the sinking gave first accounts to their families of horrors suffered on board....
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I thought this was all fake, according to the local Putinistas.
When you launch a war, you sometimes get yourself killed. TFB.
It’s certain the ship sunk during the war. I find constant stories about the “debate” over the cause to be somewhat - boring.
I’m amazed at all the Putin fluffers here at FR. Never thought I’d see that.
Why do I get the impression we were involved in this sinking?
My question is why so many sailors died?
If these images are real, it appears to be calm seas that the crew could have been evacuated fairly easily before it sank.
Who knows? Who cares? I'd like to see pootsie and zel the clown challenge each other to a swimming contest in a pool full of bull sharks. Check back in an hour to see who won. Or don't. The world will go on just fine without them.
the initial impact may have killed some people, but no way the sinking did. There wasn’t a single man in the water as it sunk being towed. Surely they had all been removed from the ship way before it started being towed.
Probably from Russian state media and trolls who keep saying “the Americans did it”
I don’t care about Putin, Z or the top Russian Naval officers.
What I care about is the poor young Russian conscript sailor who drowned in the Black Sea.
Some of the Putinistas are operatives. You can tell they work off a script and only engage certain posters. The “Ukes are Nazis” tend to fall into this camp. (Yes, there are plenty of Nazi Ukrainians. More Russian. Lots in the USA, too. Russia used to alternate stories of the USA being controlled by Jews (aka “the NWO”) and controlled by Nazis.)
Most, however, are rightly skeptical of anything the msm supports. And rightly point to corruption in the Ukraine.
Well, sure. But even with a jaundiced eye, you can see Russia is the bad guy.
CINO porn. /s
Agree with your assessment. There is a lot of corruption and propaganda coming out of Ukraine, but Russia is the bad guy here.
Ain't that the truth - probably the worst thing you've seen on FR, in all the years you've been here! And to make things worse, there's all the comic book & tabloid readers throwing insults - reminds me of the angry homeless 'squeegee guy' down at the traffic light, if you don't give him a quarter to smear mud on your windshield! What's FR coming to?!
(\sarc ;>)
You spout off that ad hominem attack like old Sniffy Joe himself.
The proper way to win over those with whom you disagree is the presentation of persuasive arguments.
Your post displays numerous logical fallacies.
Just trying to help. The quality of the conversation here on FR has declined considerably. In my opinion
The pro-Putin posters here are paid by Putin. It’s the only explanation for the tenacity and irrationality. It’s their job.
Just like the pro Biden regime fluffers.
“Why do I get the impression we were involved in this sinking?”
I know why I do. Because according to the Flightradar24 website we fly a Global Hawk drone over the Black Sea on a very regular basis. It flies loops over the middle of the Black Sea for hours at around 50,000 feet. We know everything that’s going on in the Black Sea.
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