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Shock result in particle experiment could spark physics revolution
BBC ^ | April 07,2022 | By Pallab Ghosh

Posted on 04/08/2022 5:29:08 AM PDT by Red Badger

The Fermilab Collider Detector obtained a result that could transform the current theory of physics Scientists just outside Chicago have found that the mass of a sub-atomic particle is not what it should be.

The measurement is the first conclusive experimental result that is at odds with one of the most important and successful theories of modern physics.

The team has found that the particle, known as a W boson, is more massive than the theories predicted.

The result has been described as "shocking" by Prof David Toback, who is the project co-spokesperson.

The discovery could lead to the development of a new, more complete theory of how the Universe works.

"If the results are verified by other experiments, the world is going to look different." he told BBC News. "There has to be a paradigm shift. The hope is that maybe this result is going to be the one that breaks the dam.

"The famous astronomer Carl Sagan said 'extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence'. We believe we have that."

The scientists at the Fermilab Collider Detector (CDF) in Illinois have found only a tiny difference in the mass of the W Boson compared with what the theory says it should be - just 0.1%. But if confirmed by other experiments, the implications are enormous. The so-called Standard Model of particle physics has predicted the behaviour and properties of sub-atomic particles with no discrepancies whatsoever for fifty years. Until now.

CDF's other co-spokesperson, Prof Giorgio Chiarelli, from INFN Sezione di Pisa, told BBC News that the research team could scarcely believe their eyes when they saw the results.

"No-one was expecting this. We thought maybe we got something wrong." But the researchers have painstakingly gone through their results and tried to look for errors. They found none.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Education; History; Science
KEYWORDS: chicago; davidtoback; fermilab; giorgiochiarelli; physics; science; stringtheory; wboson
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1 posted on 04/08/2022 5:29:08 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Kevmo; Wonder Warthog; SunkenCiv; SuperLuminal

2 posted on 04/08/2022 5:30:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger
"The famous astronomer Carl Sagan said 'extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence'. We believe we have that."

Is Sagan speaking from the grave?

3 posted on 04/08/2022 5:38:20 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Politicians are to America as oligarchs are to Russia. )
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To: Red Badger

“The Fermilab Collider Detector obtained a result that could transform the current theory of physics Scientists just outside Chicago have found that the mass of a sub-atomic particle is not what it should be.”

WOW!!
Now we are finding out that Physics is not settled science.
You know like Climatology is.


4 posted on 04/08/2022 5:39:01 AM PDT by Tupelo (“Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*ck things up” (Barack Obama))
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To: Red Badger

Happens all the time. They gradually get smaller and smaller but you pay the same price.

One day, the price jumps up but they are bigger and improved!


5 posted on 04/08/2022 5:39:17 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: Tupelo

Don’t worry. The powers that be will be working on racial physics.


6 posted on 04/08/2022 5:40:51 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.p)
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To: Red Badger; SunkenCiv; Gamecock; SaveFerris; PROCON

Sub atomic particles used to be huge!

And they cost a nickel!


7 posted on 04/08/2022 5:42:48 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: Tupelo
Now we are finding out that Physics is not settled science.

Well, thank gawd that the science of covid is settled, eh? /sarcasm
8 posted on 04/08/2022 5:44:14 AM PDT by Karma_Sherab
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To: Red Badger

Yep.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4053191/posts


9 posted on 04/08/2022 5:45:05 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (The best things in life aren't things.)
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To: Larry Lucido

They were two for a nickel when I was a kid!...............


10 posted on 04/08/2022 5:47:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

“not what it should be.”
No. It is what is, and that’s what it should be. When an observed phenomenon doesn’t agree with the sacred equations, that means that the equations are wrong. Redo your work.


11 posted on 04/08/2022 5:49:47 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.)
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To: Tupelo
Now we are finding out that Physics is not settled science.

As Feynman said (paraphrasing) "No theory is proven to be right. It just hasn't been proven wrong (yet)."
12 posted on 04/08/2022 5:56:19 AM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: Red Badger

I have a friend, a fellow astronomy club member who is a retired Professor of Astronomy. I am sure he has been to FermiLab many times. I know he’s been to CERN. I’m going to ask him about this. He knows quite a bit about astrophysics.
He also knows quite a bit about the global warming hoax, and considers it such.
He’s not your typical liberal Professor.


13 posted on 04/08/2022 6:12:53 AM PDT by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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To: HighSierra5
Don’t worry. The powers that be will be working on racial physics

They are already starting

Seattle professor claims physics is racist, white supremacy rampant in classrooms

14 posted on 04/08/2022 6:16:10 AM PDT by TheCipher (I am a proud member of the LGBT (Let's Go Brandon Trolls ) community)
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To: Larry Lucido

“Sub atomic particles used to be huge!

And they cost a nickel!”

Nowadays, they’re packed with flavor.


15 posted on 04/08/2022 6:18:58 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: Red Badger

Hmm, I was a physics major for my first 2 years of college ( switched over to mathematics) . There were 10 of us in the freshman class of physics majors. Three of them were black. So, according to their representation in the population, they were overrepresented in the classroom.


16 posted on 04/08/2022 6:19:36 AM PDT by TheCipher (I am a proud member of the LGBT (Let's Go Brandon Trolls ) community)
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To: TheCipher

The above refers to post 14


17 posted on 04/08/2022 6:20:20 AM PDT by TheCipher (I am a proud member of the LGBT (Let's Go Brandon Trolls ) community)
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To: CodeJockey
The famous astronomer Carl Sagan said 'extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence'. We believe we have that."

That quote is before he testified about climate change (aka global warming) on Capitol Hill ..

18 posted on 04/08/2022 6:39:41 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING !!!)
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To: Red Badger
"If the results are verified by other experiments, the world is going to look different."

Nope. Already checked that. Went out on the deck and the world looks the same.

19 posted on 04/08/2022 7:01:16 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting.)
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To: BikerJoe

That’s philosopher Karl Popper’s concept of falsificationism in science. Theories cannot be proven, they only fail (as yet) to be disproven. Did Feynman steal that from Popper? ;)


20 posted on 04/08/2022 7:12:55 AM PDT by 4Liberty (Remember when government paved the Roads and trained the Army – instead of lying and oppressing?)
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