Posted on 03/17/2022 9:25:52 AM PDT by Red Badger
The battery pack is the most important and expensive part of all-electric cars. Teslas are no exception. The last thing you want is for your new battery to break after you’ve just started driving your pristine Tesla Model X, S, Y, or 3. While incidences of battery failure are rare, they do happen. In addition, the battery modules in electric vehicles degrade over time. Tesla battery modules are no exception.
Understanding EV battery technology and lifespan are among the top questions new Tesla shoppers have. Whether you’re in need of a battery pack replacement or are curious about what a Tesla battery warranty covers, we have answers.
In this article, we’ll break down the basics of the battery pack. We’ll also explore scenarios where Tesla batteries have failed and share what a Tesla battery replacement costs.
Tesla Batteries: The Basics Tesla battery packs revolutionized electric vehicle technology. EV car batteries were heavier in the past, which made it difficult for cars to accelerate as well as travel longer distances.
The Tesla battery was an automotive breakthrough.
Composition
The first electric vehicles utilized both nickel-metal hydride and lead-acid batteries. Cumbersome and unable to hold a charge for long periods of time, Elon Musk’s firm set out to design and engineer an EV battery that was both lighter and stronger. They also wanted to design a battery that could accelerate quicker while holding a charge over long periods of time.
Tesla vehicles are powered by large lithium-ion (Li-ion) batteries. Each Tesla battery unit, also referred to by the automaker as an “Energy Storage System,” is made up of over 6,000 individualized Li-ion battery cells and weighs approximately 900 pounds.
Degradation
No electric car is immune to battery degradation as time passes and miles build up. So it makes sense that battery degradation is one of the top concerns for new EV drivers.
While “range anxiety” is a common fear regarding long road trips and the amount of charge an EV battery can hold, battery degradation anxiety often makes EV shoppers concerned about just how long the battery in their vehicle will last.
Teslas have been around for long enough now that we have information on the deterioration and wear of their battery modules. Tesla has asserted that their battery packs only lose approximately 10% of their energy capacity after 200,000 miles on the road.
In addition, Tesla founder Elon Musk stated on Twitter that the car’s batteries “should” last between 300,000-500,000 miles. This would mean the battery would last around 20-30 years if you drive 14,000 miles a year.
However, how long your battery degrades depends on a lot of different factors, such as your climate, how often you utilize DC fast chargers like the Tesla Supercharger network, etc. As is the case with most vehicle lifespans (electric or otherwise), your mileage may vary.
Likelihood of a Tesla Battery Failure
Tesla battery replacement cost: mechanic checking a car Unlike conventional cars, EVs rarely need a visit to the repair shop. That’s why the maintenance and repair bills for EVs are significantly lower than their gas-powered predecessors.
With Musk’s estimation that your Tesla’s battery would last multiple decades, you’ll probably never need to switch it out before you switch cars. But in the event of a technical malfunction or accident, you may need your battery replaced.
How much does a Tesla battery replacement cost? The answer varies depending on your specific Tesla model and type of damage. The vast majority of Tesla battery replacements are done while the vehicle is still under warranty.
If a Tesla battery simply fails due to a technological or manufacturing problem, the automaker has a solid reputation for quickly replacing it at no cost to the consumer.
If you damage your Tesla battery due to irresponsible driving or some other fault of your own, expect a hefty repair bill. Some non-warranty repairs have been reported to cost upwards of $13,000.
The true cost of a non-warranty Tesla battery repair appears to be much more than Musk’s estimate on social media. In 2021, a driver in Finland revealed he was quoted approximately $21,000 to replace the battery in his Tesla Model S. The same year, Electrek reported that a driver in the United States was quoted $22,500 for a battery replacement.
These high estimated costs of replacement aren’t just based on the fact that the battery pack is Tesla’s most expensive component. Most standard automotive service centers aren’t yet equipped to diagnose, replace, or repair the performance systems in Tesla vehicles. That’s why the brand itself recommends seeking maintenance assistance through its own network of mobile technicians.
Although Tesla mobile technicians cannot replace a vehicle’s battery, they are equipped with a variety of diagnostic tools that can diagnose rapid, irregular battery degradation and other battery trouble. In addition, Tesla regularly releases a variety of software updates that keep their battery monitoring technologies up to date.
Tesla Battery Replacement Cost: Warranty Coverage Tesla warranties are robust and protect purchasers of all models from battery manufacturing defects and breakdowns that occur with normal use. The chart below (directly from the company) illustrates a breakdown of Tesla warranties across its model lineup:
Tesla Model Battery and Drive Unit Limited Warranty
Model S
Model X 8 years or 150,000 miles with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity through the warranty period.
Model 3 Rear-Wheel Drive 8 years or 100,000 miles with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity through the warranty period.
Model 3 Long Range
Model 3 Performance
Model Y Long Range
Model Y Performance 8 years or 120,000 miles with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity through the warranty period.
Data courtesy of Tesla
While Tesla’s warranty coverage for both drive units (electric motor and transmission) and batteries is lengthy, they only cover damage that happens from manufacturing errors or accidents that are at the fault of other drivers. A wide variety of damage is not covered by Tesla battery warranties.
Tesla Battery Warranty: What Isn’t Covered
Agent demonstrating how to charge a Tesla While your own insurance coverage for your Tesla may cover certain damages, Tesla is explicit that its Battery and Drive Unit Limited Warranties do not cover damage resulting from:
Physical damage to the battery through experimentation or attempts to extend or reduce its lifespan through physical means or methods such as computer programming Intentionally or unintentionally exposing the battery to direct flame (excluding battery fires caused by unforeseen reasons) Flooding the battery Tesla’s battery warranty also does not cover the gradual power loss that all lithium-ion batteries experience from frequent and long-term usage. That said, each new Tesla owner is provided with documentation that outlines how they can maximize the life and capacity of their car’s battery.
Charging Ahead With Compare.com
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Remember the early problems with the Prius and that battery pack?
For many tears now, lots of places sell a reconditioned pack with trade in.
They scan the individual cells of the pack and replace the bad ones. It’s just a freakin battery. High Tech battery, but still, it’s a battery.
“Right To Repair” is a very big issue you should get behind.
Apple Computers, Deere Tractors, or Teslas. You should be able to fix your own shiite, if you want to.
Louis Rossman on YouTube
“I’m not even sure such a thing exists......as proprietary as tesla seems to be I doubt they left a loophole like that open.”
Watched a video about a California company that takes discarded EV batteries, disassembles them and tests each cell. They reassemble a battery with only the good cells. But each cell is as old as the failed cells. This is several years ago but the final product was, as I recall, $1500. Frankly I don’t see how the labor involved can be paid for at that price even at the time.
Also, Tesla batteries are a good deal more complex with heating and cooling and every solder joint has to be perfect. I’m pretty sure they also have some software in the battery that would almost certainly not work in the above scenario as it would keep a charge history and disable charging to failed cells. Can’t imagine it would allow you to reset a bad cell to good.
Yeah its too bad the ev manufacturers didn’t put their heads together early on and come up with a standard battery that fit every ev no matter what make. Since you can’t charge an ev battery as fast as you can fill a gas tank the way around that would be to have the capability to replace a flat battery with a fully charged on in a short period of time.. If they coulda done that and made it relatively easy to remove and replace that MIGHT help.
That way you dont own the battery you just continuously rent a replacement...kinda like the Blue Rino propane tanks.
My 2004 Dodge Durango with the small V8 that was basically a german design was running fine at 264,000 miles when I traded it in. 2 water pumps ( made in mexico), a radiator, 3 batteries, and 3 sets of tires ( all goodyear eagles like the original tires). lets call it under 2000 + about 2500 for the tires. not bad for 12 years of driving it. I could see issues like the ac and cd player acting up in the last year. Still a great vehicle.
What’s so special about the tires?
The previous owner of my 2005 Jag-u-ar put super-duper Michelin’s on it to the tune of about $1,000, and I thought that was a lot.
If governments want people to switch over to EVs, then, they should also be mandating that there be no proprietary battery packs, and that all makes of batteries be able to fit any car. We have gasoline and diesel that can ‘fit’ most any car or truck, with no need for car-maker-specific fuels. There should be no car-maker-specific battery.
Of course, that would all depend upon car-sizes and pickup-truck sizes and large-truck sizes. Different battery sizes, for different vehicle types, but not for different makes-and-models.
Hate to bring the government into this, but it is they who are ‘forcing’ EVs into our lives, so, they should be making EVs more standardized, including the battery technology. Standardization might also bring the cost of ownership down.
HP
There’s your original problem, FRiend.
“Tesla founder Elon Musk stated on Twitter that the car’s batteries “should” last between 300,000-500,000 miles.”
“Should” is the ultimate weasel word for tech people, and I for one am getting sick of it. If you are not 100% certain that something is going to work, then say that. Don’t throw “should” out there and hope nobody notices.
“Lithium batteries cannot be recycled, so landfills will start leeching lithium into the aquifers.”
Free Pluto water for everyone!
*A Tesla owner blew up his car with 30 kilograms of dynamite after the company told him the cost of replacing the battery was $22,000.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1502409298244157441
I’m not sure, but maybe it’s because only Tesla tires will fit on Tesla rims
$1500. Frankly I don’t see how the labor involved can be paid for at that price even at the time.
They were probably operating under some gov program where they were getting paid to take in the old batteries. Cash for clunkers type of dealio...
It DID tell us:
If a Tesla battery simply fails due to a technological or manufacturing problem, the automaker has a solid reputation for quickly replacing it at no cost to the consumer.
If you damage your Tesla battery due to irresponsible driving or some other fault of your own, expect a hefty repair bill. Some non-warranty repairs have been reported to cost upwards of $13,000
. The true cost of a non-warranty Tesla battery repair appears to be much more than Musk’s estimate on social media. In 2021, a driver in Finland revealed he was quoted approximately $21,000 to replace the battery in his Tesla Model S. The same year, Electrek reported that a driver in the United States was quoted $22,500 for a battery replacement.
These high estimated costs of replacement aren’t just based on the fact that the battery pack is Tesla’s most expensive component. Most standard automotive service centers aren’t yet equipped to diagnose, replace, or repair the performance systems in Tesla vehicles. That’s why the brand itself recommends seeking maintenance assistance through its own network of mobile technicians. Although Tesla mobile technicians cannot replace a vehicle’s battery, they are equipped with a variety of diagnostic tools that can diagnose rapid, irregular battery degradation and other battery trouble. In addition, Tesla regularly releases a variety of software updates that keep their battery monitoring technologies up to date.
Tesla battery fires have burned 28 Tesla owners to death. That’s seven times more (7x) than all the people burned to death by Ford Pinto gas tanks that burst in a crash. (https://www.tesla-fire.com/)
Another 12 were killed because they foolishly believed the Tesla autopilot was infallible. (https://www.tesladeaths.com/#totals)
To recoup the cost of manufacturing and repair of tesla cars and batteries from early adapters (suckers)....well.... enlightened suckers...
Probably better to lease the whole ev...., then turn it in and let the lesser fix the battery. Lesser would have to bring each battery up to brand new specs when releasing..still gonna cost mucho dollares...
A minor piece of road debris caused this. Imagine you and/or your family in that Tesla.
A Tesla Model S electric car on fire after a piece of debris hit the battery pack while the car was on the highway causing cells to short circuit and go into thermal runaway.
https://batteryguy.com/kb/knowledge-base/safety-issues-with-lithium-batteries/
A fire at one of the largest Tesla battery installations
Tesla ‘big battery’ fire fuels concerns over lithium risks
https://www.ft.com/content/8c9c3d50-98a3-4cdf-907f-901f8c328b90
In 2019 in Arizona, a grid-scale lithium battery fire threw a firefighter more than 20 metres from the container door, leaving him with a brain injury and broken ribs. That fire started after a short circuit in one lithium-ion battery cell
LOL! Do Tesla batteries really cost THAT much??
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