Posted on 03/17/2022 9:05:12 AM PDT by Red Badger
As promised, here's how much a Model 3 Performance's battery has degraded after 100,000 miles. How much range will it have left?
As we previously shared, Kyle Conner is in the midst of a new video series highlighting a Tesla Model 3 with over 100,000 miles on it. More specifically, it's a 2019 Model 3 Performance that's been put through the paces from day one. Conner has certainly taken care of the electric sedan, but he isn't one to baby it or take it easy, to say the least.
In the first video (linked below), Conner took us on a tour of the Model 3's interior and exterior to show how it's holding up. At that point, he promised many more videos with deeper dives. In the latest video above, he gets into the EV's battery degradation – or, in simpler terms, its total battery capacity loss since he took delivery.
We don't even have to start watching the video to know that the Model 3 has certainly lost some electric range over the years – all batteries degrade over time, though, in many cases, much more slowly and less noticeably than some people would have you believe. Many folks are concerned about buying an EV not only due to range anxiety, but also for fear that they'll have to eventually replace its expensive battery pack.
Research suggests that many EV battery packs, especially on longer-range models, are likely to continue providing sufficient range even after the vehicle itself is wearing out and even nearing the end of its life. Moreover, EVs have long/high mileage warranties that cover the battery, electric motors, and related components. That said, in a perfect world, if you buy an EV and its battery either stops functioning or degrades too quickly, it should be covered and replaced.
Kyle notes that he uses TeslaFi to keep track of all his Model 3's data. It offers loads of insight, and he promises another video going into TeslaFi in much greater detail. However, he does point out details like the fact that more than 50 percent of his Model 3's lifetime charging has been done at a DC fast charger/Tesla Supercharger, which should make a notable difference in the battery's degradation. Fast charging is known to contribute to battery degradation.
What we really appreciate about Kyle's new series is that many EV owners may be able to look at his ownership experience as a sort of "worst-case scenario." If you don't charge at a Supercharger daily, drive all over the country every week, slip and slide around various tracks, participate in your fair share of drag races, and hit the off-road trails from time to time, your EV may be less prone than Kyle's to issues and battery degradation.
Now to the real meat and potatoes. To give us an idea of the Model 3 Performance's battery degradation, Kyle Supercharged to 100 percent and performed the usual 70 MPH highway range test. He says he would have liked to drive 50 to 55 mph to reduce heat, but he was keeping things consistent.
On the trip from Colorado through Wyoming and into Nebraska, there was a tailwind on the way out, which Kyle says was counteracted by headwinds on the return. In the end, the car proved capable of traveling 225 miles at a constant 70 mph, followed by about 20 additional urban miles until the battery's capacity and its buffer were essentially spent.
This all proved that the pack delivered just over 67 kWh. When the car was new, it had about 75 kWh of battery capacity. So, the total loss at over 100,000 miles is around 10 to 11 percent. Pretty impressive!
VIDEO AT LINK........................
A 245 mile range is pathetic. My old Volvo sedan goes more than 500 miles on a tank of gas.
But you get to smirk at other drivers and FEEEEEL all smug and self important in a Tesla..................
Heck, my EcoDiesel Ram Truck gets 800+ miles per tank.
At 100k miles my toyota tacoma was just gettin’ broke in.
My 2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk Supercharged HEMI V8 gets far better mileage than that. Heh.
“But you get to smirk at other drivers and FEEEEEL all smug and self important in a Tesla”
Until you have to stop and charge it for God knows how long.
Yeah. It’s just great they they only lost 10% of their capacity. How wonderful.
What they don’t mention is that battery capacity loss is not linear. It’s geometric if not logarithmic. They will lose a lot more than 11% over the next 100K.
We know the size of the Tesla's "tank." What is the size of your EcoDiesel Ram's tank? Include the main, auxiliary, and bed mounted tanks.
Next we can compare "refill" times between your EcoDiesel and the Tesla.
Then we can compare "refill" costs between the two.
Tradeoffs, my FRiend, tradeoffs.
“So, the total loss at over 100,000 miles is around 10 to 11 percent. Pretty impressive!”
Look!
They even used an exclamation point!
It must be the most excellent of news!
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I have a 2007 Hyundai sonata with the big four. A few years ago I took it across the country on a 5,000 mile round trip. Between 460 and 480 miles on a tank. 70 mph air conditioning the whole nine yards.
put on in three years, most people don’t drive 33,000mi year, what’s it like six years out?
Great info, thanks! For people whose lifestyle fits for these cars that’s good news.
One thing I read about EVs is, many have much better range when driven mostly in cities since the regeneration braking helps keep the battery up longer. Unfortunately, range is much less important for urban drivers.
This is why virtually all EV owners have at least one car that is ICE for long trips. The alternative is to rent for long trips, but rental cars are very expensive right now I hear.
“if you buy an EV and its battery either stops functioning or degrades too quickly, it should be covered and replaced.”
Oh, you mean like Ford truck frames that rotted away?
Or 3 valve v8’s that self destruct?
Or Ford “Exploders” with the steel pins against aluminum trans housings?
Or Subaru cross members that disintegrated?
Or Honda transmissions that went to shiite?
It doesn’t last forever, if it did you wouldn’t have to buy another one.
EV’s for the general population aren’t there quite yet.
But getting there quickly.
I want a Tesla, but can’t quite justify it to “She That Watches”.
Peace & Happiness are much better things.
” So, the total loss at over 100,000 miles is around 10 to 11 percent. Pretty impressive!”
Until you realize that is the equivalent of your Chevy Trax going from 155 hp to 138 hp.
And, your happy for that.
Or Chrysler engines that had oil galleys too small?.................
Yes, assuming you can even find one................
The battery needed replaced $4,000.00
Tire replacement? About $1400 for 4
If you get some other kind of tires, you will need to replace the rims to accommodate... $3,500.00
WADR to everyone here the critical marker is “how much will it cost you to replace your battery pack?” Regardless of miles-per-charge or whatever. If that cost much more than what it costs to buy an ICE car then you got a problem if you don’t get enough miles out of the battery car.
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