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All 3 defendants convicted of hate crimes in Arbery killing
Yahoo! ^ | 22/2/22 | Russ Bynum

Posted on 02/22/2022 7:55:48 AM PST by Eleutheria5

Associated Press All 3 defendants convicted of hate crimes in Arbery killing RUSS BYNUM Tue, February 22, 2022, 8:18 AM·5 min read BRUNSWICK, Ga. (AP) — The three men convicted of murder in Ahmaud Arbery’s fatal shooting were found guilty of federal hate crimes Tuesday for violating Arbery’s civil rights and targeting him because he was Black.

The jury reached its decision after several hours of deliberation on the charges against father and son Greg and Travis McMichael and neighbor William “Roddie” Bryan.

During the trial, prosecutors showed roughly two dozen text messages and social media posts in which Travis McMichael and Bryan used racist slurs and made derogatory comments about Black people. The FBI wasn’t able to access Greg McMichael’s phone because it was encrypted.

The McMichaels grabbed guns and jumped in a pickup truck to pursue Arbery after seeing him running in their neighborhood outside the Georgia port city of Brunswick in February 2020. Bryan joined the pursuit in his own pickup and recorded cellphone video of Travis McMichael fatally shooting Arbery. The killing became part of a larger national reckoning on racial injustice after the graphic video leaked online two months later.

Defense attorneys contended the three didn’t chase and kill Arbery because of his race but acted on the earnest, though erroneous, suspicion that Arbery had committed crimes in their neighborhood.

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To: Eleutheria5
Obviously, they didn’t like him or they wouldn’t have shot him.

I wouldn't like someone either if they punched me in the mouth and tried to wrest my shotgun away from me. I would assume the person was intent on doing something bad to me, probably shoot me with my own gun.

Yeah, I would have shot him too.

81 posted on 02/22/2022 11:22:03 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian
The judge refused to allow the evidence that Aubrey was a career criminal out of fear of pissing off the BLM mob.

These men are scapegoats to the gods of political correctness. Had Arbery been white, there would have never been any charges filed on this.

It's because people see color, instead of being color blind.

People always talk about how important it is to be color blind, but when something happens, all they can see is color.

Nothing but color.

82 posted on 02/22/2022 11:25:08 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian

The three musketeers had no legal authority to be where they were. They had no legal authority to do what they did. If Aubrey had killed Travis, Michael and Roddy would have been charged with felony murder. Roddy injected himself in the situation when he attempted to impede Aubrey’s escape from the MacMichaels. Before one starts chasing people with guns and pointing guns at people, one should insure that one has legal authority to do that. There is a guy from Clearwater , Florida that is standing his ground every day inside the fence at one of Florida’s Correctional Institutions because he proked a fight with someone. Shot and killed him. And started yelling when the Police came, “I was standing my ground”. First the Police disagreed with him. Then a jury disagreed with him. And last but not least a Judge disagreed with him and arranged hin to be a guest of the State for around 30 years with free room, board, and meals.


83 posted on 02/22/2022 11:28:38 AM PST by sport
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To: Codeflier
I bet there are videos of other people walking through this house. Let’s be fair and show them all.

I agree. Let's be fair and show the videos of this criminal piece of sh*T walking through that house (in which $2,500 worth or stuff had already been stolen) In the *MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT*.

You talk about walking through construction sites. Did you do it several months in a row *IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT*?


84 posted on 02/22/2022 11:33:03 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Bingo! Same people bitching about our rights being stripped from us, conveniently let them go when it comes to color. If it was a white perp grabbing a gun, hey, justified!


85 posted on 02/22/2022 11:35:03 AM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian ( 2022 - VOTE THE BUMS OUT —— ALL OF THEM! RE-ELECT NO ONE!!)
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian

“Defense attorneys say....”

What did you expect them to do? Insist their clients plead guilty?


86 posted on 02/22/2022 11:37:06 AM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Not from you.


87 posted on 02/22/2022 11:37:06 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Joe 6-pack
Up until about 5-10 seconds before the shooting, pretty much any one of the parties involved could have stepped back or stepped in and deescalated the situation. Not one of them chose to.

Because every rational person knows it's very likely that someone is going to run at a man holding a shotgun and punch him in the mouth while attempting to wrest the gun from him.

Why that's predictable as the sunrise. Every man holding a shotgun gets immediately attacked by some unarmed man attempting to take the weapon away from him.

The moral here is "don't ever hold a shotgun." Someone will run up and hit you in the mouth and attempt to take it away from you.

Only stupid people think someone with a shotgun will not be attacked. You have to be a real moron to believe that a shotgun will stop an attacker from hitting you.

Yes, very stupid of them to not realize they were just asking for a physical attack by holding that shotgun.

88 posted on 02/22/2022 11:37:23 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: wardaddy
Moral of the story Don’t expect justice in a case like this one

This. Too much money is made in Washington DC by exploiting racial tensions. These people did not realize what they were getting into.

They kicked a hornet's nest when they decided to apply the law fairly to a black guy. Had he been white, nobody would care in the slightest about the piece of sh*t getting shot after he attacked the man with the shotgun.

89 posted on 02/22/2022 11:39:56 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: JoeRender
Agreed, they should be swinging from a gallows.

Another nut. So the guy videoing the whole thing should be hung?

You and I have a very different understanding of a fair punishment, even if I agreed with the notion that any of them were culpable in the death of that piece of sh*t. (which I don't.)

90 posted on 02/22/2022 11:41:51 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Stop being gas lit into giving the left what they want to see in us.

The news media did not exploit this like Travyon Martin and other cases because it was open and shut case. The McMichaels violated every rule on lethal force, and it was obvious they were racially motivated. When other WHITE people trespassed, the McMichaels did not call 911, chase them down, put the muzzle of a shotgun in their guts, killed them, and claimed self defense for killing someone who became a "threat" only after a muzzle of a shotgun was shoved in their belly.

People on the right have gone out of their way to act provoked without the left or the news provoking us, and we are looking like the racists the left says we are for it.

91 posted on 02/22/2022 11:42:31 AM PST by Widget Jr
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To: discostu
In this instance his killers had no way of knowing his rap sheet,

The elder McMichael was involved in Arbery's case in which he brought a loaded gun to a school event, so yeah, the former police officer *DID* have a way of knowing his rap sheet.

He was an investigator for the District Attorney's office. It doesn't get much better than that in knowing all the local criminals.

92 posted on 02/22/2022 11:44:50 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian
The father was assaulted.

I had never previously seen any information on this. When was the father assaulted?

93 posted on 02/22/2022 11:47:08 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: discostu
and then were shocked when he tried to defend himself.

And here you are once more repeating stupid stuff over and over again.

Arbery was a thug. He attacked the man holding the gun because he was a thug, and that's what thugs do in his culture.

He was not *defending himself.* That is *YOUR* incorrect interpretation of his mindset.

Arbery initiated the violence. He did not do so out of any fear of the man holding the shotgun, he did so out of fear the police (who's sirens he could hear at the time) would shortly arrive to arrest him, and therefore get his probation revoked.

He was not lawfully placed under citizens arrest.

He was not arrested at all. He charged a man and attacked him. At no point was Arbery under anyone's control, and therefore you cannot call it an "arrest." (Which means "stopped.")

"Arrest" = "Stopped" or "held" as in to prevent further movement.

Didn't happen.

94 posted on 02/22/2022 11:52:54 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Widget Jr
When the story broke, there were photos and clips of other people walking through the site.

In the daylight. Arbery was caught going through the site mostly at night as I posted earlier in the thread.

You have a good explanation as to why this guy was going through the house at night several months in a row?

Those other people were white.

And they did it during daylight hours. Leaving that part out makes me think you are trying to misdirect people away from the truth.

Also, those other people did not visit more than once, and not nearly so many times as Arbery kept coming back to that same house.

95 posted on 02/22/2022 11:56:32 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: discostu
What would you do “trapped like a rat”?

Run! Scream for help! Hide behind trees and wait for the police to rescue me!

What would *YOU* do? Run up like a moron and punch someone in the mouth while trying to wrestle a shotgun away?

If you think that's a reasonable thing to do, you are an idiot.

No sane rational person would do that. Only a psychotic nut would do that.

96 posted on 02/22/2022 11:59:28 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian
He wasn’t trapped like a rat. He attacked the truck. Nice try.

Right?

Some of these people are swallowing the media lies instead of looking at the evidence with their own two eyes.

This is an "Emperor's New Clothes" phenomena. They are told this was a racist murder of a black man, and now they all pretend to see it despite the clear evidence that the guy attacked *THEM*.

97 posted on 02/22/2022 12:04:54 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
"Yes, very stupid of them to not realize they were just asking for a physical attack by holding that shotgun."

Almost as stupid as starting the story in the middle.

There was a whole lot that led up to Arbery being in close proximity to someone pointing a shotgun at him. The jury in the criminal trial was privy to, and took into consideration the parts that you conveniently omit.

98 posted on 02/22/2022 12:05:17 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: discostu
The defendants said UNDER OATH that they had him trapped like a rat.

People use figures of speech all the time, but that does not literally mean he was "trapped like a rat."

Arbery was clearly free to run the other direction, and you could have seen this with your own two eyes had you bothered to actually look at the evidence.

Now see, I just "burned your @$$" good, but I did not actually and literally "burn your @$$." I did it figuratively.

Arbery was "trapped like a rat" figuratively, but not literally. Literally he could run back into the neighborhood from whence he came.

99 posted on 02/22/2022 12:08:06 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: ought-six
Don’t engage with the guy; call the police.

The guy doing the engaging *WAS* the police. He had been doing that same job for 25 years.

100 posted on 02/22/2022 12:11:34 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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