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Trump accountant withdrawal - MSM is in rapture, but thin on facts
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Posted on 02/15/2022 8:04:46 AM PST by Fido969

The MSM is in rapture about Trumps accounting firm withdrawal and disclaiming financial statements. But where are the facts?


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bidenvoters; mazars; nyag; trump
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If an accounting firm is drawn into a legal proceeding about work they did for a client, and there is any express, implied or possible legal jeopardy for the firm, or any contrasting interest, then the firm has a conflict of interest, and therefore must withdraw.

That is not an admission of guilt by the firm, or to be taken as an indicator of guilt by the client.

The firm is question performed compilations for the Trump organization. A compliation involves taking information from the client, putting it in the form of a financial statement, and considering only information that appears obviously wrong, or whether the firm has information that the financial information is incorrect.

A compilation is not an audit, nor even the lesser assurance: a "review". The accountants report on the compilation states that, and also states that the accountant is providing "no assurance" on the accuracy, completeness or validity of the information.

Now, I would mention that the firm may have internal procures to accept engagements based on their perceived ethical standards of the potential client, but in the case of the Trump organizations, I would assume that wouldn't be a problem, unless the service provider had severe TDS.

Now, as a result og the intense AG digging about this matter, the accounting firm firm may have received information from the AG's office about an error on their compilation - for example a company car that was not on the books (happens once and a while: "Wait a minute - the car you use personally is registered in the company name?! We're going to have to put that on the books!") That would be an example of a subsequent discovery of facts. The firm had no initial obligation to search for that car, but learned about it later.

If the accounting firm decided the event or item dicovered was material, they could ask the client to amended the financial statement and reissue, and if the client didn't, the firm would advise 3rd party users to disregard the prior financial statements, by stating the "can't be relied on".

Since the firm had withdrawn for the conflict of interest described above, they wouldn't be able to amend the financial statement, and could only withdraw those statements.

While "accountant withdraws" and "retracts financial statements" and the technical wording "can't rely on" make hysterical headlines, without knowing the facts, they are nothing more than suggestive wording.

1 posted on 02/15/2022 8:04:46 AM PST by Fido969
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To: Fido969

So, compare and contrast...

The story of Special Counsel Durham’s charges about Hillary Clinton campaign spying (actual court documents, not “sources”)...

Versus

Trump’s accounting firm withdrawing?

Which story receives more media coverage?


2 posted on 02/15/2022 8:09:26 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: Fido969

Lame attempt by the PTB to distract attention from the Durham Report.


3 posted on 02/15/2022 8:11:05 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Fido969

CPA here.... A Compilation relies solely on client prepared info with no assurance of the numbers. But I have never known a lender who has a client the size of Trump Organization that would not require a full audit. Just my two cents.


4 posted on 02/15/2022 8:13:06 AM PST by Hyman Roth
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To: Fido969

And more two cents worth... I have done many Compilations. If I smelled BS I still called them out on it.


5 posted on 02/15/2022 8:15:01 AM PST by Hyman Roth
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To: Fido969

Anything to fill up the time and space so they don’t have to report on Hillary and the Democrats spying on Trump throughout the election and during the entire Trump Presidency!


6 posted on 02/15/2022 8:15:35 AM PST by Dogbert41 (Hungering and thirsting for Righteousness...)
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To: Mr. Mojo
LOOK!!!
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7 posted on 02/15/2022 8:16:13 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Hyman Roth

But that bring into question - what was the subsequent discovery of facts? Was it something that would be critical to the lender’s decision? Or was it merely sloppiness?


8 posted on 02/15/2022 8:17:12 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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To: Fido969

I saw a headline from CNN complaining it was worse than impeachment, lol!


9 posted on 02/15/2022 8:17:38 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: Dogbert41

This.


10 posted on 02/15/2022 8:17:39 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I meant to type “claiming” not “complaining.”


11 posted on 02/15/2022 8:19:03 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
I saw a headline from CNN complaining it was worse than impeachment, lol!

Did they cart out that dingbat Bernstein to say it was "worse than Watergate!"

12 posted on 02/15/2022 8:20:50 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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To: Fido969
We need to recognize what Trump is up against. The GOP is helping the dems redistrict themselves into more seats (specifically Karl Rove, who people mistakenly say is botching the redistricting fight when he's actually intentionally throwing it to the dems). Why would they do this? So like in 2018 when they threw the congressional election to the dems they want them to be the face of the opposing to Trump in case he does get back into power in 2024. So they need the dems to be competitive in 2024 and this redistricting "loss" is not a loss at all from either partie's perspective.

In parallel both parties and the entire state apparatus are actively digging for dirt on Trump and if he gets close to the nomination he will 100% be indicted on some BS. Probably multiple fake indictments.

We have the worst President in at least 50 years right now and the GOP is perfectly fine with him. They've given him everything he asked for, except the Build Back Better bill (but what they did give him was a blank check for $3,000,000,000,000 in new spending on dem wishlist items). This is they guy they are supposed to be opposed to, they line up to make sure he gets his ruinous agenda.

But Trump, who gave us record economic growth, peace in the middle east, historically low unemployment, even diplomatic progress with North Korea ... that guy they will go to any underhanded depths to destroy.

13 posted on 02/15/2022 8:26:17 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Hyman Roth

Trump has each parcel of real estate in a separate corporation. Generally, financial statements are per entity and not consolidated unless they are public ownership.

My intuition says that the CPA either conflicted out or were pressured by another client in the cancel culture or by the government through threats.

My best guess, having been in these situations as a CPA, it’s politics.

If they were auditing a municipality, county or government entity, the elected officials may have forced this to retain the larger client.


14 posted on 02/15/2022 8:28:26 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Hyman Roth

AND THIS.

<><> BARRON HILTON OF HILTON HOTEL FAME COULD NOT GET AN AC GAMING LICENSE

<><> HUGH HEFNER OF PLAYBOY COULD NOT GET AN AC GAMING LICENSE

<><> BOB GUCCIONE OF PENTHOUSE COULD NOT GET AN AC GAMING LICENSE

TRUMP GOT THREE AC GAMING LICENSES......PLUS ANOTHER IN AN ISLAND RESORT.


I have never known a lender who has a client the size of Trump Organization that would not require a full audit.

Trump had scads of lenders eager to do business with him.

The vetting was brutal.



15 posted on 02/15/2022 8:34:17 AM PST by Liz ("Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. )
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To: Alas Babylon!

The only people who care about Hillary already post here.

She’s not newsworthy and never will be, no matter what she does. No one cares who doesn’t already utterly hate her.


16 posted on 02/15/2022 8:35:18 AM PST by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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To: pepsi_junkie

“We have the worst President in at least 50 years right now”

Who do you see Biden as an improvement over before 1970?


17 posted on 02/15/2022 8:43:20 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Yep, you guests it.
I hear a lot about Trump accounting, nothing on Durham. At least in MSM.

Obviously another example of MSM being super biased.
Not that I expected anything else.


18 posted on 02/15/2022 8:49:33 AM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: Republican in occupied CA

I don’t understand.

It’s more than Hillary. Obama led his followers to do this for her—Comey, McCabe, Struck/Strok, Wingman Holder as well as the Fligtline Meeting Lynch...

It’s the whole dang demonrat party and the illegal government they led.

And yeah, we do care about it here.


19 posted on 02/15/2022 8:49:37 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: DesertRhino

I know that people tend to overweight Presidents they lived under more than past ones. But until Biden it was hard to give the title of worst prez to anyone but Wilson. And LBJ was certainly in the running along with Jimmah and FDR. Biden hasn’t quite created enough damage yet. But he is certainly in the running for worst.


20 posted on 02/15/2022 8:50:18 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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