Posted on 02/10/2022 7:36:35 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
Places with highest daily reported cases per capita
Seven-day average of daily new reported cases per 100,000 residents
Cruise ship extended care for some if they want.
That's the point of taking a simple calculation -- incidents of X in a population Y.
When one questions, as some do, the "denominator" in such a simple calculation, the real question is one of changing the aritmentic outcome.
Case fatality rate is " deaths divided by cases." Of course, the percentage would be higher. If one looks for the higher percentage as the desired outcome, then "(CFR / population) x 100" yields that percentage. The underlying assumption is that counting the cases is accurate. But one has seen definitions for case change throughout the pandemic, and presumptions and "assumed' cases have qualified. One recent celebrity died, was said to be positive through a test, and yet the assertion was another of those "with Covid" as opposed to "from Covid." Depends on the underlying taxonomy.
You are correct, to my view, to observe the counting and underlying taxonomy "skew."
This is why I have chosen simply to take two unarguable bits of data -- overall instances of death within a population, and population -- to do such a simple calculation. So, from JHU Corona today...
( 5,793,370 "global deaths" / 7,922,649,789 global population ) x 100 = 0.073% mortality rate.
And therefore -- number of deaths / populations inverted (100% - the mortality rate) -- the survivablity rate over twenty-five months is 99.927 %.
Such has been asserted for months now by many. The pandemic is winding down because the numbers -- adding up -- don't seem to add up as devastating as the messaging has said it is.
99.927 % survive. Attribute it to natural immunity, general health, mRNA experimental injections, early treatment prophylactics and all, but still, over twenty-five months, 99.927 % survive worldwide. Over half from the time before the actual availability and resultant push for "vaccines" and about half after.
Of course people die of many things. To make the entire last two years into "Covid" deaths has been fraudulent.
But if Covid is broadening target age, there won't be a quandary. Whatever restrictions are demanded will be demanded decades before 65+.
I was just pulling your chain. The excess deaths had little to nothing to do with Covid itself and a lot to do with the vaccines and repercussions from the lock downs. Of course, it is all very easy to follow if you factor in the simple but ever-changing definitions of what a vaccine is and how “vaccinated” is defined by our government overlords.
At one time partially vaccinated meant that you had received one jab, and fully vaccinated meant that you had received two. Now fully vaccinated means that you have received three or four jabs... but only within certain time constraints.
Now if you have received only one jab but not the other required jabs you are unvaccinated. Two weeks to a month after your second jab you are considered partially vaccinated and another two weeks to a month after your third jab soon to be fourth jab you are considered vaccinated. Now of course the definition applies differently depending on which set of statistics and what their purpose is.
The strictest counts are for people who are hospitalized or have died. In that case many if not most the people who believe they are vaccinated are not, unless they have received a "booster" more than a month ago but less than six months ago. So, to be clear if you drop over dead or became hospitalized within a month of either of the two initial jabs or one of the boosters you are now definitely considered not vaccinated. And if you have suffered from any severe health problems after being jabbed that your own doctor considered to be related you are also definitely considered not vaccinated. But if you did not get sick after you received any of the jabs you were either fully or partially vaccinated. It seems a little confusing to some, but it is really all very simple.
First, I agree with your conclusion that this has been mishandled to a criminal degree causing unimaginable amounts of unnecessary suffering and death.
Of course, if one was to scrutinize by further defining a Covid death as one which was actually caused by Covid and not a "comorbidity", such as cancer, heart disease, or severe trauma the number of deaths decreases by an additional 95% or more, going from 939,437 to a more realistic 46,971 causing over two years of hysteria. Then the mortality rate becomes (46,437 / 333,928,328) x 100 = 0.014 % US mortality rate over two years, or a yearly average mortality rate of 0.007% which is far less than the number of people who die from falls or other accidental injuries within their own home in the US.
That number does not appear to implicate Fauci, the NIH, the CDC or the FDA for increasing the overall death rate which actually caused US life expectancy from birth to drop nearly 2 years. This drop had little if anything to do with the virus itself since the average age of a person who died "from" Covid was about the same as the average life expectancy or beyond.
"Covid-19" is a flu like respiratory illness which in its original engineered Fauci / CCP form caused a greatly increased risk of dying from pneumonia in the elderly, morbidly obese, and some with other serious co-morbidities. This was greatly exacerbated by inappropriate treatment protocols mandated by government medical authorities for which they should be held accountable. But the excess deaths and lowered life expectancy were caused by inappropriate government meddling in medical facilities, mask mandates, dangerous "vaccines", and a plethora of other nonsense that were not helpful in any way.
Yes, here is a while section on that . CDC Covid-19 case and death criteria
" This is why I have chosen simply to take two unarguable bits of data -- overall instances of death within a population, and population -- to do such a simple calculation. So, from JHU Corona today... ( 5,793,370 "global deaths" / 7,922,649,789 global population ) x 100 = 0.073% mortality rate. And therefore -- number of deaths / populations inverted (100% - the mortality rate) -- the survivablity rate over twenty-five months is 99.927 %. "
About the same for the US. Yet even the 1018 flu did not see the length and the scope of Covid-19 reactionary restrictions
And which is actually lower unless the tot. pop. figure is as current as the Covid death figure. This site lists the US at 334,596,490 for 2021. Then there is the Estimated Infection Fatality Rate (IFR: est. total infections and deaths) which the CDC has not provided since September 2021 and overestimates.
And while the justification for these all-ages long-term restrictions on freedom of speech, association, travel and even breathing is that they are necessary to save lives, yet the “pregnancy fatality rate” (PFR) is19.5% (excluding spontaneous miscarriages among known pregnancies which are estimated to average approx15%). Therefore, with the CFR for those ages 0-17 being 0.01%, then despite headlines of exceptions, for the young (and fit and healthy) the odds of dying from Covid-19 are most minimal. That is, unless you are “quarantined” in the womb.
Generally, 85+ are loaded with comorbidities.
The desperate hope by folks that the virus is not killing people really can’t be fueled by the comorbidity game.
The issue is this. A diabetic 86 year old with high blood pressure was living life just fine until Covid arrived. Then blood oxygen began to fall and then cratered, and . . . dead.
It’s just not going to hold water to imagine the person who died that week was going to die that week anyway.
They typical 85 yr old has life expectancy of 6 years. The typical 85 yr old has comorbidities, but still 6 yrs. Covid chopped 5.9 years off.
A real pandemic has been happening for a very long time. It isn't this Covid-19 panic-fed, media-driven event.
Of course it is unfair. After all, being quarantined is supposed to save lives, esp. the most vulnerable, while those who oppose this are the murderers. And a 9 month quarantine should be especially safe, . Unless it is a vulnerable infant quarantined in its own mother's womb until it is safe to leave.
It is interesting that "health" and "safety" issues are dealt with so differently by the "progressives." A life is a life. A death is a death.
In one interchange I asked a pro-abort until birth if an assault on a pregnant mother, near her delivery date and said assault resulting in the death of the baby was murder. He said no. The he tried to explain this by "woman's right to choose" rhetoric, when there was NO such slogan involved. It was a death, an unwanted death by the expectant mother, and yet he wanted to argue with "clump of cells" logic.
When one gets to that point, life is meaningless. Willingness to terminate a "clump of cells" before birth and cheer for euthanasia becomes that Fabian socialism wherein "right to life" becomes the province of the state, not the individual.
It is fascinating that such people balk at the notion that they would be measured with the same measure they would apply to others.
And by that logic a women can dumb a human out of her SUV to death since it is her vehicle and has a right to who occupies it, even if that presence is to due to her own actions. And if it becomes a matter of development, then where does that lead to?
“who will turn to Christ in repentance and faith?”
Fear of death has a way of focusing the wise but sleeping on the most important thing. The unwise and sleeping may die in their sins. I had a death scare at 25 and it’s amazing how much more clearly one sees what’s important and what’s not. How often did Jesus say “Watch … Be ready … Keep your lamps filled” or Paul, basically, let us not sleep as the rest do, in drunkenness and debauchery.
“86 year old”
Mother died at 86 and a half on 1-3-22. Blood pressure medicine in 1990. Breast cancer in 98. Diagnosed with chronic leukemia in 04. Diabetes 2 about 17. Under regular treatments for these ailments she was relatively stable until a few months after her second COVID shot in Feb 21. Then starting not to feel well. Dad couldn’t get her to go some weeks for her cancer and/or leukemia shot.
But she became regular again. About three months after her third COVID shot, her largely kept in check leukemia went wild. Died 8 days after hospital admittance. Mom never caught COVID. Tested, always negative. Did the “vaccine” weaken and then cause her immune system to weaken and then collapse?
When diagnosed with leukemia in 04, Mom was told she could live with the condition 20 to 25 years. Made it 17. Would it have been 17 without the COVID shots? Maybe. I’m skeptical of the safety (and efficacy) of the vaccine. They’ll have to hold me down to get it in me. Will switch jobs if forced to.
Oh now the liberals are desperately trying to pivot. Oh, the CDC may have miscounted COVID deaths. Oh, some may have died WITH COVID and not FROM COVID. (Heard Rush Limbaugh say this in 20!) Oh, we’ll check again and see if the vaxx does something to a woman’s menustral cycle. Pfizer -Oh, we’re going to delay shots for 5 and under until we get more safety data. It’s all so disgusting! People have been used as guinea pigs! Lab rats!
Sounds like she had a lot of comorbidities and fought a long time.
The problem I have with the frequent vax death stories is they always evolve to blame the CDC for some sort of coverup. The reply is just so painfully obvious but never examined.
Russia produces a Sputnik V vax. China produces Sinovac. India produces their own. Many countries with their own health ministries buy from US sources AND from Russian/Chinese/India sources.
They are not insane. They don’t give a damn about Fauci or the CDC. If they were seeing vaxed people drop like flies in their countries, they would stop vaxing.
They aren’t seeing that.
“blame the CDC for some sort of coverup.”
I just wonder why the VAERS numbers aren’t allowed to be discussed?Some of the deaths have an explanation not related to the vaccine. But others seem obviously vaccine related. A healthy 37-year-old mother suddenly develops deep vein thrombosis.
Another problem, why does one thing after another - Trump Russia, Hunter Biden laptop, lab leak, Smollett, Rittenhouse - turn out to be exactly opposite of the dominant narrative and what people on hear like us have been saying for years? Latest one, some liberals are starting to say some people have only died with COVID and not from COVID, something conservatives have been saying for at least a year if not more.
VAERS would not even exist if a conspiracy existed. If you were the CDC, a few hundred people working on this stuff, getting up every morning to look in the mirror and comb your hair before going in to work with the intention of killing lots of people, why would you even allow VAERS to exist?
I just don’t believe the health ministry of South Korea has its employees go to work each day helping to orchestrate killing of South Koreans. Ditto Japan. Ditto Russia. They all do vaxing.
It’s probably worth noting that there are vax related deaths. Pfizer has said so. CDC has said so. Russia has said so. Of course there are. There are flu shot related deaths. Tetanus shot related deaths. Not many.
The evaluation in a plague emergency has to be benefits risk ratio. All these countries that vax have decided they will lose fewer lives vaxing than they would if they did not vax. South Korea decided that. Norway decided that.
This is why vax happens.
Not saying it’s a conspiracy. Agree they admit there are vax deaths. “Not many”. I guess it would depend on how you define many. Sorry, but it’s too many in my opinion. Seems a little like Russian roulette to me. Why should there this much uncertainty? Will I be killed? Will I be injured? What are the long term consequences.
I don’t know what the benefits cost ratio is that is deemed acceptable. If they project 10 lives saved by vax per vaccine death, or 100 lives saved per vax death or 1000 saved per vax death. I’ll bet their working number is published somewhere.
Could get delicate if the number is based on life-years saved per vax life-years lost. Meaning the vax saves 1000 lives and they are all 85+, but the life lost to vax death might have been 30. Maybe that’s in their equation. Don’t know.
But I’ll bet it is published somewhere. The key point to all of this is . . . it’s not “many”. It’s not an English word. It will be math. It will be numbers.
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