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Data From Over 350,000 People Have Really Bad News About 'Moderate' Drinking
https://www.sciencealert.com ^ | 31 JANUARY 2022 | JACINTA BOWLER

Posted on 01/31/2022 10:27:20 AM PST by Red Badger

We all know that drinking too much is bad for us. But what about just a few glasses a week?

Red wine has antioxidants, we've been told, so a few glasses are apparently 'good for you'. Other studies have suggested that low-to-moderate drinkers are less likely to have a heart attack than those who avoid drinking altogether. Wine is even included (in moderation) in the Mediterranean diet, one of the healthiest food plans on the planet!

But a new study based on a huge data set from the United Kingdom now suggests that the J- or U- shaped curve of drinking is based on bad science; even having less than the currently recommended number of drinks per week in the UK is associated with an increased risk of cardiovascular issues.

"The so-called J-shaped curve of the cardiovascular disease-alcohol consumption relationship suggesting health benefits from low to moderate alcohol consumption is the biggest myth since we were told smoking was good for us," says cardiovascular physiologist Rudolph Schutte from Anglia Ruskin University (ARU).

The problem, the team of researchers from ARU and University College London suggest, is that many non-drinkers are not drinking because of current ill health, and so when they have heart attacks or other coronary issues, this is unrelated to them not drinking – and not suggestive that drinking a low or moderate amount of alcohol is protective.

The researchers looked at data from the UK Biobank covering a staggering 333,259 alcohol consumers and 21,710 people who had never drunk alcohol. They analyzed almost seven years of data, noting whenever one of the participants had a cardiovascular event, heart disease, or cerebrovascular disease.

The team specifically excluded former drinkers to try and limit data from people who may have stopped drinking due to their current health. Despite this, the never-drinkers were still older, had a higher BMI, higher blood pressure, and were less physically active than the cohort that drank.

"Using never drinkers as reference consistently drove the inverse protective relationship with all outcome measures and overrode more subtle associations with different drink types. Using this overriding analytical strategy enables authors to report overall cardiovascular protection from alcohol," the team writes in their study.

"In our cohort, never drinkers were older, less physically active, had a higher body mass index and socioeconomically less affluent. Even after adjusting for these cardiovascular risk factors, never drinkers had a 31, 51 and 46 percent higher risk of suffering an overall cardiovascular-, ischemic heart disease- or cerebrovascular disease event, respectively."

So, to remove these confounding factors, the team then compared the lightest drinkers to those that drank more, and found that wine was minimally protective from ischemic heart disease, but was not associated with other cardiovascular issues.

For other alcoholic drinks like beer and spirits, even for people consuming fewer than 14 units per week, which is the current recommended number of weekly drinks in UK's health guidelines (and the equivalent of 8 standard US drinks), the outcome looks much worse.

"Among drinkers of beer, cider, and spirits in particular, even those consuming under 14 units a week had an increased risk of ending up in hospital through a cardiovascular event involving the heart or the blood vessels," says Schutte.

"While we hear much about wine drinkers having lower risk of coronary artery disease, our data shows their risk of other cardiovascular events is not reduced."

With other studies finding that alcohol is one of the leading contributors of death and disease worldwide, now might be a good time to renew those new year's resolutions and cut back on drinking.

In the US, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommend that adults can choose not to consume alcohol, or stick to two standard drinks per day for males, or one drink for women if it's a day when you choose to drink.

"Biases embedded in epidemiological evidence mask or underestimate the hazards associated with alcohol consumption. When these biases are accounted for, the adverse effects of even low-level alcohol consumption are revealed," says Schutte.

"Avoiding these biases in future research would mitigate current confusion and hopefully lead to a strengthening of the guidelines, seeing the current alcohol guidance reduced."

The research was published in the paper Clinical Nutrition.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Food; Health/Medicine; Society
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To: Caipirabob

Thats so funny - I too have several bottle of cachaca and its dreadful - a cross between tequila and rum. BUT a properly formulated caiparina is delightful. A lot like how a margarita can make rough tequila passable.


41 posted on 01/31/2022 11:36:56 AM PST by corkoman
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To: Republican in occupied CA

“I never run...might spill my drink”

Anon


42 posted on 01/31/2022 11:40:12 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Red Badger

Personal anecdote: Three of my grandparents lived to their mid-80s, one to his mid nineties. The three who lived to their mid eighties were all moderate drinkers- beer or wine on occasion. The one who lived to his mid-90s would come home from work every night and pour himself a glass of whiskey and keep refilling it until he went to bed. When he retired he would go down to the VFW hall a little after lunch most days and start drinking there, then come home pour himself a glass and keep it full. He did this from the time he came home from Europe after WWII until he could no longer drive himself to the VFW. Then he started drinking after breakfast until bed time.

Who knows how long he could have lived if not for the drinking? Except what killed him is he wouldn’t eat after my aunt died.


43 posted on 01/31/2022 11:44:29 AM PST by Flying Circus (God help us )
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To: Bonemaker

Hiy-Oh!!
Says Ed McMahon.


44 posted on 01/31/2022 11:44:48 AM PST by lee martell
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To: Red Badger

I used to sell MIS surgical equipment which we provided for gross anatomy lab work for physicians. I was talking to the director and asked where they got the cadavers. He said most of them were from unclaimed homeless alcoholics who had died. He said the veins of these cadavers were pristine. There were no plaque build ups, etc. He attributed it to the excessive and constant drinking. Of course he said nothing about their livers.


45 posted on 01/31/2022 11:51:30 AM PST by TheOldSchool
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To: lee martell

46 posted on 01/31/2022 11:52:57 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: TheOldSchool

Their livers were ‘holy’..................


47 posted on 01/31/2022 11:57:53 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger
Possibly... Been listening to a lot of Nerd-core today... Pandora on Random.

I'll form the Head - MC Frontalot.

48 posted on 01/31/2022 12:04:21 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: algore

Lots of us drink in moderation.. I have a glass of red wine every night, sometimes two if I’m having dinner with a friend. Have done this for at least 20 - 30 years. My daughter does this too.

My son died last November from congestive heart failure caused by acute alcohol poisoning. He only drank beer.

So, drinking in moderation is being done if you’re not an alcoholic.


49 posted on 01/31/2022 12:08:39 PM PST by Veto! (Political Correctness offends me)
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To: Red Badger
Only 10 seconds long.😎

Happy birthday mom!

50 posted on 01/31/2022 12:11:29 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Dead Corpse

Hip-Hop meets Anime?........................


51 posted on 01/31/2022 12:12:04 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

52 posted on 01/31/2022 12:15:09 PM PST by Bratch
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To: Red Badger

Nerd rap. I also listen to a lot of chap hop, steam punk, classical, 3rd wave prog, experimental, blues, jazz, orchestral, heathen, bagpipe, etc... It gets really random when Pandora is spinning the tunes.

Got Tom Waits on now. Yesterday is Now.


53 posted on 01/31/2022 12:21:48 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Caipirabob
What's the difference between cachacas and rum?

My wife and I have fond memories of our two years in the Açores.

Our Daughter was born there and it happens to be her birthday today.

54 posted on 01/31/2022 12:27:42 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Dead Corpse

He’s still alive?...................


55 posted on 01/31/2022 12:30:13 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Bratch

I believe Jim Morrison said it first.................


56 posted on 01/31/2022 12:31:55 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: .44 Special
I suppose now I'll have to get rid of the Whistle Pig and Pappy's.

Not! LOL

57 posted on 01/31/2022 12:32:47 PM PST by Quilla
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To: Red Badger

“...studies have suggested that low-to-moderate drinkers are less likely to have a heart attack than those who avoid drinking altogether...”

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Says recent unbiased, totally neutral, financed study conducted by the American Association of Breweries and Distilleries. Hic...up...


58 posted on 01/31/2022 12:38:03 PM PST by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Poor 'lil Travon bees slamming dat white cracka'a head into dat sidewalk causin he be scared)
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To: Red Badger

Remember when butter and eggs went on the no no list? Its always something. If drinking red wine was so bad France would be depopulated.


59 posted on 01/31/2022 12:45:04 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: AAABEST

In their study, the 8 “units” means about 4 drinks.

Anyway, it is a stupid study. There is a host of reasons why drinking might correlate to bad health outcomes that have nothing to do with the drinks being alcoholic. For example, beers have calories. Two British pints in a pub every night could mean over 400 extra calories per day. Make it 3 pints and it’s more calories than a Big Mac.


60 posted on 01/31/2022 12:46:22 PM PST by Stingray51 ( )
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