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A Better 9mm? Federal Introduces the 30 Super Carry Self Defense Handgun Cartridge
Field and Stream ^ | 16 jan 2022 | Richard Mann

Posted on 01/16/2022 1:02:13 PM PST by rellimpank

Federal has introduced a new cartridge that has been specifically designed for those who carry a concealed pistol for personal protection. They’re calling it the 30 Super Carry. From an external and terminal ballistics standpoint, the 30 Super Carry will run right with the 9mm, but offers some advantages. It generates between 10 and 20 percent less recoil, for one thing. And maybe more importantly, given magazines of the same size, it offers a higher capacity than the .380 Auto or 9mm Luger. How did Federal achieve this? They borrowed from what they learned in 2008 while developing the .327 Federal Magnum.

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To: T.B. Yoits

10mm is God’s caliber there is simply no comparison between the ballistics of the 1cm vs it’s anemic little brother. 220gr at 1300 fps is well past 357 mag territory. 9 mm is typically 350 to 400 ftlbs real 10mm when loaded to it’s full pressure is 750+ ftlbs not even in the same ball park. Set off a Glock 20 at an in door range with full pressure loads and everyone immediately turns and gawks at the three foot wide fire balls coming off the front end BOOM BOOM BOOM usually the range master comes over thinking you are shooting a SBR on the pistol side with rifle ammo which is a no no.


21 posted on 01/16/2022 1:31:58 PM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: Kid Shelleen

This is being torn apart on the non-commercial gun forums.


22 posted on 01/16/2022 1:40:08 PM PST by Chad C. Mulligan (qd4)
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To: rellimpank

What we really need is a .380 super. /s


23 posted on 01/16/2022 1:40:25 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

They have it loaded with a fast powder to ~50,000 psi to get enough muzzle velocity from pistol barrels.


24 posted on 01/16/2022 1:44:03 PM PST by Chad C. Mulligan (qd4)
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To: Celtic Conservative

“This round already exists. It’s called 7.62x25 tokarev. “

Longer and wider case. #0 SC has more capacity/smaller pistol.


25 posted on 01/16/2022 1:45:46 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: T.B. Yoits

👍


26 posted on 01/16/2022 1:46:20 PM PST by griffin (Don't ever forget. In RW#1, Tyrants were SHOT IN THE FACE. A LOT. Remember!!)
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To: 230FMJ
those 2 are bottle necks with the same case diameter as the 9mm, whereas the 30SC has a case diameter close to a 32ACP which allows the higher round count in similar sized magazines.

Which also is an advantage over the screaming hot Tokarev round.

27 posted on 01/16/2022 1:48:18 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: T.B. Yoits

Yes, but wouldn’t you really salivate for a 10.1mm with 20% less recoil and 2X the muzzle energy? Plus it does your taxes for you AND gets your undies 45.6% MORE white!!! ☺


28 posted on 01/16/2022 1:49:00 PM PST by griffin (Don't ever forget. In RW#1, Tyrants were SHOT IN THE FACE. A LOT. Remember!!)
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To: JD_UTDallas

“the three foot wide fire balls coming off the front end BOOM BOOM BOOM “

So much for getting off a second shot in a darkened house.


29 posted on 01/16/2022 1:49:20 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: rellimpank

Hey for my wife and her CC 9mm Kimber, this lower recoil would be quite an improvement, if it is noticeable.


30 posted on 01/16/2022 1:51:23 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Dems: We cheated fair and square!!!)
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To: Travis McGee

Can’t beat a new caliber for selling more guns!

Butt seriesly, can’t Federal just work on getting out MORE of the EXISTING calibers to drop prices?


31 posted on 01/16/2022 1:51:34 PM PST by griffin (Don't ever forget. In RW#1, Tyrants were SHOT IN THE FACE. A LOT. Remember!!)
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To: real saxophonist

SAAMI is an org, not a spec.


32 posted on 01/16/2022 1:53:50 PM PST by griffin (Don't ever forget. In RW#1, Tyrants were SHOT IN THE FACE. A LOT. Remember!!)
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To: Celtic Conservative

But the Tokarev has a width of 0.392, while the 30 Super Carry is only 0.344, enabling more capacity.

I do love the Tok, though. Here’s a crime novel in which the penetration power of the Tokarev plays a pivotal part in the climax: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0997539518


33 posted on 01/16/2022 1:55:27 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: JD_UTDallas

Put a three prong on that Glock 20 Sah! ;)


34 posted on 01/16/2022 1:55:59 PM PST by griffin (Don't ever forget. In RW#1, Tyrants were SHOT IN THE FACE. A LOT. Remember!!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Good material for the bathroom reading rack.


35 posted on 01/16/2022 2:00:54 PM PST by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: rellimpank

No round is any better if you can’t consistently hit your target.

I think a bigger problem than the round is that most people do not practice enough. I know people that haven’t run 50 rounds through their handgun in years and are sure they can hit the bad guy in a crisis confrontation.

That hasn’t been helped by ammo cost. I have a range membership and try to go every week and run a box through the S&W. It’s hard on the wallet but you gotta keep that muscle memory.


36 posted on 01/16/2022 2:02:06 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: rellimpank

Yay! Another new cartridge that we won’t be available to buy...


37 posted on 01/16/2022 2:17:18 PM PST by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: rellimpank

How does one explain this to their wife?

I NEED another pistol?


38 posted on 01/16/2022 2:20:17 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: TexasGator

True. But the terminal ballistics in the Tok are absolutely fantastic. To each his own. But in the current ammo shortage a new caliber presents its own set of problems.

CC


39 posted on 01/16/2022 2:21:08 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: rellimpank

Looks pretty good.


40 posted on 01/16/2022 2:21:32 PM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now! Desantis 2024!!!)
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