Posted on 01/14/2022 7:29:03 AM PST by Red Badger
Don't know which Tesla Model 3 to pick? This real-world, cold-weather range and charging comparison test may help you decide.
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For many people who are considering going electric or upgrading to another EV, the Tesla Model 3 is probably the first model that comes to mind, and for good reason.
It’s the right size, very efficient, a Tesla, and relatively affordable. But deciding you want to buy a Tesla Model 3 is just part one of the story because you’ll then have to pick one of the three versions on sale today: the Model 3 RWD, the Model 3 Long Range, or the Model 3 Performance.
To help you decide, the folks from the UK-based RSymons RSEV YouTube channel got hold of all these models and performed a series of real-world range and charging tests in identical conditions.
After the first leg of their trip done in freezing conditions (0 degrees Celsius/32 Fahrenheit) and before preheating the batteries for supercharging, the most efficient car proved to be the Model 3 RWD, which averaged 16.1 kWh/100 km or 3.9 miles/kWh. Of course, having the smallest wheels (18-inch Aero Michelin) helped, but what is remarkable is that the Long Range is only marginally less efficient with 16.4 kWh/100 km or 3.8 miles/kwh)—despite riding on 19-inch Sport Hankook wheels.
Having covered 168 miles (270 km) in freezing cold conditions, the Model 3 RWD had used 85% of its 60-kWh battery, which would result in a real-world range of 198 miles (318 km) from 100% to 0% SoC. The Model 3 Long Range used 75% of its 75-kWh battery, giving it a 224-mile (360 km) real-world range, while the Model 3 Performance used 77% of its 82-kWh battery for a real-world range of 218 miles (350 km).
Admit it, the range difference between the Model 3 RWD with LFP battery chemistry and the other two Model 3s is smaller than you expected, isn’t it?
The difference in charging times is even smaller, with the base model needing 10 minutes to add 100 miles (161 km), while the Long Range and Performance needed 9 minutes and 10 minutes, respectively. To add 150 miles of range, the Model 3 RWD needs 21 minutes, while the other two need 19 minutes each.
The video above has many more interesting stats, but the main takeaway here is that the Model 3 RWD is the one to have if value for money matters the most for you.
Come on folks, think! Use your brains.
“Having covered 168 miles (270 km) in freezing cold conditions, the Model 3 RWD had used 85% of its 60-kWh battery, which would result in a real-world range of 198 miles (318 km) from 100% to 0% SoC. The Model 3 Long Range used 75% of its 75-kWh battery, giving it a 224-mile (360 km) real-world range, while the Model 3 Performance used 77% of its 82-kWh battery for a real-world range of 218 miles (350 km).”
I have read that you should not go below 40% charge in the battery. So, taking that into account, if true, the real range is most likely less than 100 miles for the former.
Better off with a horse.
It may be too late for the woketardians.
10 years from now, the landscape will be littered with dead windmill carcasses and dead batteries. Where will they get the electricity to power up batteries after they kill oil and gas development? Keep your gasoline powered cars. They will be the only thing that will still run in 10 years. BTW, the highest environmental destruction is from the disposed wind blades. Where will they be buried?
City people think that there is nobody living outside of their little world and that they are what counts.
They are finding out slowly these days when they go to the store and there is bare shelves.
Anybody want to argue now that if a civil war ensued that the cities wouldnt surrender within a month?
People should better. Especially people forcing electric cars on everyone. It is all about how it sounds and how it makes people feel versus reality.
“I will consider an EV when power plants are expanded to handle the capacity of millions of new electric cars.”
The good news is that isn’t really an issue. Our powerplants are built to provide enough power in July at 7pm. Every other hour of the day there is a lot of spare capacity.
If cars are set to charge overnight then every car in the country could go electric and be charged off our current infrastructure.
“...Anybody want to argue now that if a civil war ensued that the cities wouldnt surrender within a month? ...”
But do they know that?
That is fake news. The fastest supercharging rates occur when the battery is under 60%. That said the range of the Tesla at 0F is likely closer to 100 miles..
That includes expansion and the addition of hundreds of thousands of electric cars plugging into the grid like most governments are mandating? I think not.
It is just the opposite. We are reducing capacity by restricting the types of fuel that we can burn and by forcing intermittent sources such as wind and solar. Solar is useless if “cars are set to charge overnight.” The sun doesn’t shine at night.
We need nuclear. Unfortunately, nuclear, which is the only way to achieve the all electric cars mandate, is hated by everyone. It is a dead end.
Something we never see in these tests is how old the batteries are. I would guess they’re all fairly new. How about tests where the batteries are in the middle of their service life or at least a year old?
Are they seriously suggesting that "value" is the most important factor in deciding to spend $45,000 for a battery-only EV?
Musk himself disagrees with your assessment
Non-starter, haha! Pun intended? Unlike IC engines that Start with a starter coil, my understanding is that electric motors just go. Just not for many hundreds of miles at a time.
And the US will surrender to our enemies, too — RE: China and Taiwan. Considering that Taiwan produces a significant portion of the world’s semiconductors, China would have the world by the short curlies. And the world and America will submit.
https://www.motortrend.com/features/how-much-is-a-tesla/
… As the cheapest Tesla available, the Model 3 has a lot to offer, including strong range and sleek styling. The rear-drive Standard Range Plus model starts at $47,690, including a $1,200 destination fee…
Hmmm, I can get a comparable car (i.e. hyundai elantra) for half the price, go more than twice as far on a fill up, not have to worry about where the charging stations are, and I wouldnt be scamming the tax payer by charging with ‘free’ electricity.
So for at least 20k less I get a much better product. How long would I have to drive the Tesla to make back that 20k in gas and maintenance? At Joe Biden gas prices in my area, I would burn about a fill up a week, or $1500 per year (~24k miles). Some maintenance so lets conservatively say $2500/year total to be conservative. That’s 8 years to break even (probably more like 10, 12, or even 16 years since I typically put half that mileage on my car in a year). By the time I get to 200k miles on a vehicle, I am probably looking for a replacement. So the chance that I actually save anything is slim to none.
This is purely an economic comparison. Not even mentioning the travel time lost while charging on trips or having to route plan for charging stations or batteries catching fire in the garage while overnight charging or electric grid issues or government dependencies, etc etc.
No, A hybrid would make more sense as at least I could be self charging while driving. But still a big loss in cargo volume and a similar comparison in break even costs.
It is one of those basic question related to energy consumption versus energy produced. I think that you will find out that the current plan will fall short, well short, of demand.
I am not a genius. But is not a complicated question that the “geniuses” should be asking.
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Model 3 RWD is the one to have if value for money matters the most for you.
RWD..Had an RWD in winter once
I had to store cement blocks, kitty litter in the trunk, so I could navigate badly plowed roads..
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