Sun Ng, 63, traveled from Hong Kong for his granddaughter Kaylie’s first birthday celebration on September 17. (Photo by daughter Man Kwan Ng as submitted to the court.)
Posted on 11/24/2021 1:50:47 PM PST by ransomnote
[H/T LilFarmer]
Sun Ng, a retired contractor from Hong Kong, traveled to Illinois to celebrate his only granddaughter’s first birthday. He got covid and was near death in a Chicago-area hospital. All other options were exhausted, but the hospital refused to give Mr. Ng a generic, FDA-approved drug with an extraordinary safety record that a doctor believed could safe his life.
Finally, a judge asked the right question about ivermectin.
“What’s the downside?”
Put another way: If a man is dying of covid in an ICU and all else has been tried, why not order a hospital to give a safe, last-ditch drug?
Edward Hospital, located near Chicago, offered three arguments as to why Sun Ng, seventy-one, should not be given ivermectin:
There could be side effects.
Ordering ivermectin would violate its policies.
Forcing the issue would be “extraordinary” judicial overreach.
On each argument, DuPage County Circuit Court Judge Paul Fullerton firmly disagreed.
“I can’t think of a more extraordinary situation than when we are talking about a man’s life,” he said in a November 5 decision that is a model of rational decision-making in an irrational era.
“I am not forcing this hospital to do anything other than to step aside,” he continued in a Zoom hearing. “I am just asking—or not asking—I am ordering through the Court’s power to allow Dr. Bain to have the emergency privileges and administer this medicine.”
The hospital ultimately stepped aside. Dr. Alan Bain, an internist, administered a five-day course of 24 milligrams of ivermectin, from November 8 through November 12.
Ng, who with his wife, Ying, had come from Hong Kong to celebrate their granddaughter’s birthday, was able to breathe without a ventilator within five days—he, in fact, removed the endotracheal himself. He left the ICU Tuesday, November 16, and, although confused and weak, was breathing Sunday without supplemental oxygen on a regular hospital floor.
“Every day after ivermectin, there was accelerated and stable improvement,” said Dr. Bain, who administered the drug in two previous court cases after hospitals refused. “Three times we’ve shown something,” he told me. “There’s a signal of benefit for ventilator patients.”
Ng’s remarkable progress stands in sharp relief to the repeated attempts by Edward-Elmhurst Health, the hospital’s managing system, to thwart the use of ivermectin. It succeeded in having the court’s initial November 1 order dismissed by claiming Ng was in better health than his lawsuit contended (he wasn’t). It then defied the November 5 order, saying Dr. Bain was not vaccinated (a negative test resolved the issue).
Moreover, after Ng’s treatment was complete, the hospital system filed notice that it would appeal the order that had already been carried out. It did this even though Sun Ng seemed to have benefited greatly.
The patient’s improvement, or condition generally, did not seem to matter.
At the outset, the hospital argued against court intervention, saying, “Mr. Ng is not terminal at this point.” But it was forced to admit that he had for days teetered on the brink of death after Ng’s daughter and only child, Man Kwan Ng, spoke to a hospital doctor November 3—and took copious notes that were submitted to the court.
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Interesting comments below article here as well-
https://patch.com/illinois/naperville/ivermectin-treatment-given-edward-patient-court-order
gas_dr
So are you hemming before hawing? Or was that a haw, followed by a hem?
There are hundreds (if not thousands) of practitioners who are willing to treat thee patients. Of course, quite a few of them have had their privileges revoked because they did not follow the official line.
FFS - ivermectin is used worldwide and is very low risk. I think you are displaying the typical physician thinking: Doctor = God; court system = Evil.
These extraordinary times call for Right to Try. It was a huge issue during development of HIV-AIDS drugs.
What a coincidence - what person with the initials AF,MD was at the bureaucratic center of BOTH the AIDS era and the Covid era?
Good News
Your shots and ventilators are killing people. That is more dangerous than this
Something "one step away" is one step away and should not be a factor.
The judge is simply supporting Right to Try.
I think he is upset he may be losing bonuses. Ventilators=$$
"Hey you can't use horse paste on horses! It don't work! I played in the FNL so I know!"
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33592050/
Role of ivermectin in the prevention of SARS-CoV-2 infection among healthcare workers in India: A matched case-control study
Finding a judge like this is a rare and fortunate occurrence. God’s blessings, your Honor.
Did you even read the article? It was the hospital (and the CDC protocols) that were standing between the doctor and the patient. The doctor ordered it. The hospital refused to allow it.
If a patient wants a drug that they have reason to believe could save them when they are dying, who the Hell are you, or anyone else to stand in his way?
” However it is one step away from a court ordering a doc to so something which would be quite dangerous.”
What’s the difference between a hospital administrator ordering doctors around and a judge?? At least a judge has heard some evidence and isn’t paid off by government and pharma.
Big pharma makes nothing from horse paste
Some physicians are threatened, others coererced and yet others convinced of one thing — or another. Quick survey —
—Texas doctor suspended, banned from giving ivermectin to critically ill COVID patient
—Doctor Fighting to Use Ivermectin for COVID-19 Suspended by Hospital: Lawyer
https://www.newsweek.com/doctor-fighting-use-ivermectin-covid-19-suspended-hospital-lawyer-1652588
—Health officials warn of Ivermectin after local prescription
—Column: A warning to doctors — spreading COVID misinformation could cost you your license
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-08-16/doctors-coronavirus-misinformation-license
It seems “one step away from a court ordering a doc to so something which would be quite dangerous” has been going on for months now. My doctor has been intimidated by hospital administration. Depends on whose game it is, one may conclude.
Bkmk
FLCCC: Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance
Suggest you reread what I wrote. I said it was a good ruling but caution that the court is only one step away from ordering treatments. That would be bad. I support the ruling in terms of barring the administration from stepping in
I’m response you your question a demand for something based on a belief does not compel me to order it if in my medical judgment it would be dangerous. It goes back to that decade of education and certifications. To be blunt who am I to tell what drugs I will and won’t prescribe? The guy who is licensed and educated to make that call.
I am absolutely fine is someone wants to seek alternative treatments but I am indeed no obligation to provide treatments that i may disagree with. It’s not a menu.
Did you have a television with a dr? I have the meds but think I need to have a dr visit before using?
Bkmrk
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