Posted on 10/30/2021 6:38:44 AM PDT by Libloather
On May 7, 2019, Lisa Lemble and Robert Gordon cut the ribbon on Ann Arbor, Michigan’s first curbside electric vehicle charger. It was an ordeal that required nearly a year of negotiation and permitting, and cost the couple about $15,000. “Mainly we want people to know that if they live in the city of Ann Arbor and don’t have a driveway and don’t have access to a garage, that it’s possible to put in a charging station curbside,” Lemble said at the time.
Possible, yes. Easy, no. More than two years after the Tesla-owning couple installed their dual-nozzle Level 2 charger on the curb in front of their condo, their example has not caught on. Missy Stults, the sustainability and innovations manager for Ann Arbor, said she does not know of another such project in this city of 120,000, home to the University of Michigan.
“It is so bedeviling,” Stults said. “Multifamily is a large portion of our housing stock and we start to have challenges.” The city estimates it needs as many as 10,000 electric vehicle chargers to prepare for full electric-vehicle adoption, and Stults is focused on getting them into publicly accessible parking lots - like the four “fast chargers” in the City Hall parking lot Ann Arbor put online just this Monday.
As for the streets, where residents like Lemble and Gordon park? “Trenching in the right of way gets complicated,” Stults said of the digging required for such a project. “And then what tends to happen is people park in a spot and don’t move.”
Ann Arbor is one of many cities confronting a vast challenge as Democrats pin their hopes to reduce U.S. emissions on the rapid, widespread adoption of electric vehicles: How do you get power to people who park on the street?
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“That must be why the POCO put a 36kva transformer in to feed my house. Or maybe my house is well above average....”
That would be a 150 amp service. That is above average, however that’s not the point. You use nowheres near that much power. The inrush and/or starting currents are 5 or more times the rated current. Plus, appliances, furnaces and air conditioners and even light bulbs only run a fraction of the time.
The average U.S. home uses about 900 kWh per month. So that’s 30 kWh per day or 1.25 kWh per hour.
Some idiots maybe.
I would think apartment owners would only make an investment like that in order to make money for themselves which they would do by charging their tenants for the charging using a meter of some sort.
Of course those who don’t charge would end up paying part of it anyway. For example, most apartment complexes have swimming pools because it draws in tenants. So every tenant pays even if they never use the pool.
Primarily, I was thinking of a large employer who must compete for engineers or other talent.
My solar system isn't grid-tied. I'm not off-grid...I still pull from the grid when my solar and batteries aren't doing enough. But I don't sell back to the grid. I have what solar nerds refer to as a "zero report" option with my inverter. What that means is my solar system doesn't shut down when the grid goes down because my solar system doesn't put power onto the grid. That way, linemen can work on downed power lines without worrying about power from my house all of a sudden shocking them when they thought there was no power.
In my neck of the woods, it's a tornado or a snow storm that's liable to knock the power out. When that happens, I still get power from my solar and batteries. It's funny how that right after a tornado or snow storm it tends to be bright sunny weather. When that happens I have to ration my power: particularly if a snow storm is what takes the power out because that happens in the winter when we have less hours of sun. But it's like I used to do before solar when I'd depend on my 7 kW generator. In the spring, on most days my solar system produces about 80%-100% of all the power I consume anyway, that's counting sunny days and rainy days. But since it's usually sunny for a few days after a tornado I have all the power I'd want from the solar system.
I have family in Gulf Shores, AL. They talk about how when the power is out for a week at a time where they live, even the gas stations have no power to pump gas for a few days in a row. If I was to move to either Gulf Shores or southern Louisiana and had the same solar system / house I have now, and get an EV next year like I plan but keep one gas car like plan to do ... that sounds like it's the best of all worlds. If the grid power is out I didn't have solar power to charge my EV, I'd have a gas car. If the gas stations had no power, then maybe I'd have enough solar to charge my EV. But that's me being married and needing two cars anyway: might as well make it so the two cars give us diversity of strengths.
By the way, on Nov 6th "We comin'. And we ain't backing down." RTR
<>Wake up morons.<>
I’m astounded at the level of support at FR for government-imposed EVs.
The purpose of the rat party, “The Party,” for those who read Orwell, is simple. Their purpose as Obrien explained to Winston is power.
All of their initiatives are designed to control and eventually destroy the middleclass.
If this trend isn’t disrupted, I guarantee small town and rural (read white) areas will be on the very short end of rationed electricity. Its impoverished inhabitants will be forced to live in the hells of rat cities.
I drive three Mercedes and run a 2015 Corvette Stingray on a track twice a year. The sheep can keep their toy electric cars.
36kva transformer feeds ONLY my house, and I have a 400-amp service.
My highest usage in the last 12 months was 1450kwh, and that happened during Jan/Feb (house is all-electric with heat pump).
Probably would have been even higher had I not sealed the house up with caulk and great stuff while it was being built.
On the coldest days of the year, that heat pump will run continuously, 3500 watts for hours on end.
Not bad. If I lived out in the sticks with iffy power reliability, I'd definitely consider one. I've lived in the same place for 30 years and have had only had 1 significant power outage of ~12 hours.
I'd think some of the larger apartment complexes would team up with one of the charging networks for billing purposes.
A lot of people live above the 30th parallel.
I live above the 30th we get 220 days of full sun per year. I have 15,000 watts worth of panels on trackers on my property they used to be up on the roof but I’m demoing 2 axis trackers on poles. The output has gone up by 1/3 vs fixed 35 degree tilt on the roof line. Even fixed those panels made 120 kWh per day plus in energy. Even on the shortest day of the year which is still ten hours of daylight they made over 100 kWh. They make so much power I sell it at market rates to ERCOT and turn a profit every month. I could charge two Tesla from zero to full every day 220 days per year. A full Tesla goes 330 miles thats well over 600 miles per day in range 200+ days a year. NO ONE drives that much not even commercial cab drivers drive 600+ miles per day. It bewilderes me why independent minded people shun Teslas. No one has a oil well in their backyard with a triple phase gas oil water separator, followed by a fractional distillation stack, followed by hydrocracker tower and desulfurization cat to make EPA certified low sulfur petrol. You can have 15,000 watts of panels up on a roof that will fuel a Tesla in one day the weekly miles of the average person. At 40 miles avg commute as documented by .gov one only needs 10kWh in a Tesla to go that distance. That’s a single hour of sun on a 10,000 watt panel system or under 40 mins on a 15kw system. The rest of the 12 hours plus of daylight can power the house or fuel up another Tesla for its daily commute. During the black out my buddy Evan brought his Tesla 3 to my garage and filled it to the top with sunlight every petrol station in 15 miles around was black and not able to sell fuel not a single one had back up power on site the petrol was trapped in the underground tanks till the grid was restored. We charged his Tesla , had BBQ made in my Cabellas electric smoker and drank beers in the 80 degree man cave my heat pumps were humming along fueled by nothing but sunlight. All my neighbors saw my lights on and came over to charge phones, warm up and have civilization for a while. It was the best demonstration of off grid solar stand alone mode. I could have asked God himself for a better sales demo. Every on a of my neighbors has panels up now and stand alone mode inverters.
You could not be more wrong even if you tried. Bone stock Teslas in severe commercial service routines nothing like personal use are going 300,000 plus with some approaching half a million miles. Tesla will certify it’s million mile battery soon for commercial use.
https://insideevs.com/features/383640/tesla-500000-mile-in-depth-look/
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