To those who still pretend that the 'Covid Vaccine' is 'safe and effective', where's your evidence? Please refute Steve Kirch's report and provide 10 years of data.

10/18/2021 | vanity

[ransomnote]

ransomnote: Below, I posted my response to one of countless posts to me stating that I post Covid content without merit in order to push 'an agenda'. The name of the freeper this time is irrelevant because other have said the same thing. 

Freeper: This is a tour d’force of maybes, ifs and allegations that uses one theoretical allegation to build on the next.

You and others on FR working to keep the Plandemic alive rely on inuendo and allegations. To support the 'narrative', your content supports an entire fabric of lies.

* You imply 'Covid' is far more deadly than it is. Even the CDC admitted in May that 94% of "Covid" deaths are persons with an average of 4 co-morbidities (hint: they died of other things). It's not just the US that has ridiculously inflated 'Covid' death tolls.

Lisbon Court Rules Only 0.9% Of ‘Verified Cases’ Died Of COVID, Numbering 152, Not 17,000 As Claimed
greatgameindia.com ^ 

* You insist there are no treatments and so you push the vax. Ivermectin, HCQ work around the world, but you say they don't.

Dr Robert Malone @RWMaloneMD | Peru-> last half of 2020. Mortality dropped 14 fold over 3 months with Ivermectin, rose 13 fold when Ivermectin removed

C19Protocols – Reducing Risk of COVID-19 Infection and Severity

A Guide to Home-Based COVID Treatment
aapsonline.org ^ | December 11, 2020 | Jane M. Orient M.D., & Elizabeth Lee Vliet, M.D.

* You pretend the 'Covid' tests are valid.

FDA document admits “covid” PCR test was developed without isolated covid samples for test calibration, effectively admitting it’s testing something else
fos-sa.org ^ | August 2, 2021 | Naomi Wolf

* You pretend the Delta variant is behind the 'surge' and is reason to get the vax.

Dnice4Jesus @DeniceMarin emailed the CDC to ask them how they are verifying what variant is dominant. This was their answer. Thoughts?
Twitter ^ | 7/29/2021 | Dnice4Jesus @DeniceMarin

* Overall, your firm support for the 'narrative' indicates your belief that Fauci/NIH/CDC are telling the truth.

"Conspiracy theorist" Robert Kennedy Jr. explains relationship between world’s most powerful doctor Bill Gates and Dr. Fauci [2 minute Video]
twitter.com ^ | April 19, 2021 | Camus @husserl80

Bill Gates, George Soros and others are driving the CDC's medical Tyranny with Private Donations to CDC Foundation. We have to reject the CDC to free ourselves.
5/3/2021 | vanity

You pretend the entire basis for China Biden's Plandemic is legit while posting as a conservative on FR. 

You are never skeptical about the 'Plandemic Narrative' no matter how many reports surface around the world contradicting it; you have no doubts or questions for the CDC. When real people come forward, put their reputations and credentials on the line, and pierce the 'Plandemic Narrative', you say they're fake and it costs you and your annonymity NOTHING.

You ridicule real doctors with impressive accomplishments who are saving lives with their safe, effective treatment protocols and education. It's war and you just happen to prefer ALL of the key talking points of those working to destroy us.

Mind you there is no meaningful data in your claim or any claim.

ANY CLAIM. Just a blanket denial. Fauci supporters always start by saying that anything people write against the Plandemic has no meaning, isn't real etc.

Plandemic Indoctrination [watch movie free, free to download] Includes notes on 7 minute sample excerpt of the movie: Clip 03 Turning CoronaVirus from a pathogen to a profit
freedomplatform.tv ^ | August 18, 2020 | Dr. David E Martin

The CDC and NIH use the same tactic. Pretend there is no evidence and then say things like, "We're not aware of any reason why pregnant women shouldn't get the 'vaccine....' That will be their excuse - they weren't aware.

As the public wakes up, the Faucists and CDC supporters are preying on a smaller and smaller number of people who haven't woken up.

Karl Denninger runs the numbers on Market-ticker.com. Please write him and explain how his statistics which show 1.2 million people of working age are missing from the job market are wrong, because he doesn't want it to be true. He keeps asking someone to explain it to him; he doesn't want to be right. But be careful; Karl knows what he's talking about, has been crunching these numbers for  years, and he's not impressed with fake and/or anonymous credentials, medical degrees etc. 

There are unsubstantiated allegations.

Americans are doing a good job of pinning our domestic enemies to the floor with facts. The CDC has simply stated over and over 'those facts don't exist', just like the corrupt traitors in Congress and the MSM keep stating there is no evidence of 2020 election theft.

The CDC, Pharma etc. don't respond to public inquiry or answer questions. They flat 'overrule' the public while behaving as if they are our overlords; they shall determine who 'gets' to claim facts, and who 'gets' to be threatened, censored silenced and smeared.

The weaponized medical establishment fell into a stunned silence and was unable to refute the information presented by Steve Kirsch, even the part where he offers 1 million dollars for NIH/CDC/FAUCI to debate him on the facts. Our enemies did what you do - they ignored him.

Comment to ACIP meeting of August 30, 2021 submitted by Steve Kirsch (with 20 experts including Dr Malone, Dr. Vanden Bossche, Dr. McCullough, Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. Fareed
skirsch.com ^ | August 30, 2021 | Steve Kirsch

I'm amazed you and others who push (shove) the 'vaccine' are not concerned with all the CDC's 'unsubstantiated allegations'. Why aren't you skeptical of their edicts and pronouncements?

You and your buddies in the CDC are thoroughly unconcered that the Covid vaccines were tested briefly and have zero interest in long term effects. A 'normal' year might have 300 deaths post vaccination, but since Covid, were' way up in the thousands and you're yelling "SITUATION NORMAL!" You never ask the CDC or NIH or Fauci for evidence to prove anything- you just PUSH and SHOVE THE VAX.  

I am my colleagues have seen no vaccine injuries hospitalized.

You and other fake anonymous doctor 'colleagues' pretend to work in magical hospitals with patient populations which magically conform to the 'Plandemic Narrative'. The rest of America, and the rest of the world is living in reality where the vaccinated are being infected, spreading the infection, being hospitalized and dying in increasing rates. You will pretend this information does not exist.

Infection Rate in Vaccinated People in Their 40s Now More Than DOUBLE the Rate in Unvaccinated, PHE Data Shows, as Vaccine Effectiveness Hits Minus-109%
Daily Sceptic ^ | 15 October 2021

More deaths from vaccinations than from Covid-19 in Taiwan
FreeWestMedia ^ | October 17, 2021 | Staff

Latest UKHSA report shows Vaccinated accounted for 80% of Covid-19 Deaths and 60% of Hospitalisations in the last 4 weeks
theexpose.uk ^ | 10/16/2021 | The Expose

Real doctors put their profession and reputation on the line to save people, and you and other anonymous, fake doctors predictably attack him/her. You've never said anything approving of those who are taking  a beating, unduring threats and suppression, and censorship. Why not at least refute their evidence, instead of ignoring it? Because you can't.

THE VACCINE DEATH REPORT Version 1.0 [Outstanding, one-of-a-kind collection of critical medical, social and survival aspects of our enemies' tactics and goals] PDF at link
stopworldcontrol.com ^ | 9/26/2021 | John Sorenson and Dr. Vladimir Zelenko

Dr. Ryan Cole: weakening our immune system, e.g., since Jan 1, the lab has seen a 20 times increase of endometrial cancer (Transcript and link to two minute video)
Twitter ^ | Aug 25, 2021 | Dr. Ryan Cole via @ToTheLifeboats

There is no massive uptick in unexplained deaths. If the roughly 355 million doses of vaccination used were producing even a fraction of that which you claim it would be overwhelmingly evident. Where are the bodies?

There is a massive uptick in unexplained deaths. And sadly, many have injuries - they are flooding the hospitals now and they are falsely classified as 'unvaccinated'. Obitituaries now simply say "sudden illness".

Fox News Whistleblower: My Boss Told Me ‘Do Not Report Deaths After Vaccination’ [includes my notes on first 12 minutes of video]
banned.video ^ | Aug 5, 2021 | The Alex Jones Show, Ivory Hecker

BOMBSHELL: British Funeral Director John O'Looney: Deaths Skyrocketed '300%' After Covid Vaccine (Video)
RAIR Foundation USA ^ | October 14, 2021 | Renee Nal

Respiratory Therapist Blows Whistle: "I'm Watching People DIE" (15 minute video) [He and others meet Oct 23, Noon at the State Capitol in St. Paul, Minnesota to walk to Gov's Mansion
rumble.com ^ | October 12, 2021 | Stew Peters, Mark Bishofsky

WARNING: NURSING HOME WHISTLEBLOWER, "PATIENTS DYING LIKE FLIES AFTER VACCINE"
brighteon.com ^ | January 28, 2021 | Brighteon User: Contrarian

Witnessing the harm done by vaccines explains why so many medical people and first responders are willing to lose their jobs rather than volunteer for biowweapon injections. 

And in you snd your followers chronic posting of every breathless and unsubstantiated claim as gospel fact, it is becoming nothing more than irrelevant noise.

The plain fact is you want people to believe penumbras and shadows as gospel truth while attempting to deny the obvious. It has and is failing as the chronic drumbeat is gathering little movement.

Oh come on - the blind belief in 'gospel truth' is what your leaders, Fauci and the CDC, live by. They never prove anything. They're out there urging children and pregnant women to get a toxic experimental vaccine for a highly treatable illness to which the young are not succeptible. Instead - they push the vax. 

Your numbers are grossly inflated on logic that is faulty. You have no data. Just rantings of those with an agenda and yet you post it as if it were gospel fact. You have selected what conclusion you want and are working back from that conclusion trying to force things to for your narrative. It’s why there is zero clear evidence supporting your beliefs.

Refute Steve Kirsch's valid, defensible information and win 1 million dollars. You can prove him wrong, prove me wrong, AND win 1 million dollars! DO IT! 

Comment to ACIP meeting of August 30, 2021 submitted by Steve Kirsch (with 20 experts including Dr Malone, Dr. Vanden Bossche, Dr. McCullough, Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. Fareed
skirsch.com ^ | August 30, 2021 | Steve Kirsch

I'm not making up data, I'm quoting experts with evidence the CDC, NIH, and FDA pretend don't exist. Zelenko, McCullough, Dr. Merrit and others are saving lives, and the CDC won't acknowldege them, other than to attack them, and won't even advise the public to make sure they get enough Vitamin D to cut RISK.

FReepers are sharing stories of 'vaccine' harm you also ignore.

LilFarmer: "I have noticed many posts of personal experiences with adverse reactions to the vaccine and thought it would be helpful to put them all in one place."
8/24/2021 | LilFarmer

It is also why I’m order for you to to be correct. That all but the dirty dozen of physicians who you regularly quote would have to be in on some conspiracy. Every physician including my colleagues on free republic would have to be coordinating our stories and lying.

Those the Biden machinery attacks are now deemed the 'dirty dozen'? Want to include all the others the Biden regime is attacking? How about the Jan 6 political prisoners he's taken. Are they 'dirty' too? Who says they are dirty? The CDC/MSM/NIH/Fauci...and YOU.

You and your fellow fake doctors are pretending there is no suppression or censorship. You know who else believes there's no censorship or suppression of medical evidence? The CDC and Fauci. Funny how that always happens, eh?

Dr. Hoffe was threatened for asking why his 900 patients, which he vaccinated, had higher rates of vaccine harm that didn't match Pfizer's trial claims. He was issued a gag order, his hospital privileges were stripped, he lost half his income and his clinic burned down. Anyone who stands up to The Plandemic Narrative is viciously attacked - and you pretend there's just a 'dirty dozen' out there making up wild lies and attaching their names, reputations to them for no reason.

But all you and your group have is that we are lying and other people have said….
Well if you believe some whistleblower with no direct clinical presence you must lend equal weight to those of us who are dismissed as anonymous physicians who are probably lying

WORLD-WIDE EVIDENCE refutes you. Clinical evidence, first person accounts, successful physicians who stand in front of a camera and take the abuse to get the word out. Entire nations report their populations are responding well to Ivermectin, the safety and efficacy of ivermectin/HCQ are extensive and well known, and then read you and your anonymous, fake doctor 'colleagues' insisting Ivermectin is useless. I'm supposed to believe fake anonymous doctors pushing the Fauci party line?

Your story has more wholes than Swiss cheese. You just are blinded by your agenda to see it.

The CDC/Fauci/NIH are weaponized. You and your kind either quote Fauci or his sources, attack the messenger or change the subject. Where's your report to refute Steve Kirsch's report?

You and the CDC et. al. pursue an agenda that is damaging the US and that's not something you regret. 

The CCP may treat its ardent supporters who are shoving the vax like they are important loyalists, or special now, but they don't mean it.

Video: Communist Professor Declares That U.S. Was Defeated In ‘Biological War’ With China CCP affiliated researcher says China “put the U.S. back in its place”
summit.news ^ | May 19, 2021 | Steve Watson

 

[eyeamok]

How Dare You bring Facts and Evidence to an Emotional argument

[ransomnote]

 adorno wrote:

Real vaccines require 10 years to study and must pass rigorous standards before they are deemed safe OR effective.

Still, 10 years worth of date was 'ungettable'. Especially for vaccines which had to be developed for the emergency. Emergencies don't normally have the availability of years of data.

Emergency use did not have the normal waiting times of 10 years, or even 5 years. How about asking how many lives might have been saved because of the emergency development of the vaccines? I don't know that anybody can provide an exact number or a real approximation, but, it's probably in the millions worldwide.

*

There never was an emergency - they made it up.

 

The CDC withheld ALLL TREATMENT from those with respiratory symptoms. We're not used to living like that. It turns out if you don't treat sick elderly people, or you use the harmful 'interventions' required by the CDC, people die instead of heal.

The CDC knows Remdesivir destorys kidneys and hearts and fills the lungs with fluid - that's why they require its use for Covid. Then the 'ventilators' provide excessive pressure that blows out the lungs. The CDC knows this. It's part of the CDC protocol.

 

Re the vaccines - they had one job. Tell the truth. Without sufficient data, they lied and said it was safe and effective. Efficacy is crashing - the public knows this, it was down around 20% last time I saw. Even the Biden administration admitted there's a 'problem'. 

 

So if they don't have standard data used to determine that a 'vaccine' is safe and effective, don't just make it up and lie. Don't claim the 'vaccines' are safe and effective, especially when unprecedented levels of death are being reported post 'vaccine'.

One job. Tell the Truth. The CDC FAILED.

[Jane Long]

Still, 10 years worth of date was ‘ungettable’. Especially for vaccines which had to be developed for the emergency. Emergencies don’t normally have the availability of years of data.

Emergency use did not have the normal waiting times of 10 years, or even 5 years. How about asking how many lives might have been saved because of the emergency development of the vaccines? I don’t know that anybody can provide an exact number or a real approximation, but, it’s probably in the millions worldwide.

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Yeah....but....you’re not “taking sides, here”, right, obvious vax pusher?

No sale with your nonsense claim.

Your question was answered, yet you weren’t a happy vaxxer, with the RELEVANT answers.

Your FRAUDci excuses aren’t cutting it.

[ptsal]

Typo
If the pro-vaxxers do not like the content they could always ask for a refund on the dues at Free Republic. :)

[ransomnote]

Safe and EFFECTIVE?

Study Published On NIH Website Finds ‘No Discernable Relationship’ Between Vaccine Status And COVID Cases, Says Infection Rate May Be Higher Among Fully Vaccinated

[Jane Long]

Hang in there Ransomnote. You are doing good work.

If the pro-vaxxers do not like the content they could always as for a refund on the dues at Free Republic. :)

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Amen.

And, they wouldn’t feel so threatened to troll ransomnote’s and other “vax” warning threads, like they do.

They troll away, without anything substantial to prove their drive by attacks.

rn.....you are definitely over the target.

[tiki]

I know many who are vaccinated and haven’t died but...my niece got Covid after her’s. My sister was covered with blisters after the 1st shot. The Dr. actually attributed them to the vaccine and encouraged her to get the 2nd shot, which she did and got sick as a dog and now 4 or 5 months later has Covid. One of my brothers had covid was encouraged to take the vaccine anyway, ended up with heart damage and had to get a pacemaker.

We have lived our lives all during the pandemic, church, parties, traveling, shopping, eating out, spending time with friends. We’ve been exposed to people with it several times, and, thanks be to God, we haven’t gotten it. Our most practised defense is washing our hands, along with Ivermectin since last December.

I have what I call Covid corner in my closet, an oxygen concentrator, a nebulizer, Dexamethasone, Z-pacs, Colchicine , vitamins.... I feel most have died from lack of early treatment and I’m prepared.

[patriot torch]

Ransomnote for the layup.....and the win!!!!

Great reseach.

[DoodleBob]

Step 3: Clinical Research (FDA site says trials usually take years...not months like for COVID19)

FDA ^ | January 4, 2018 | N/A
Posted on 8/9/2021, 9:51:08 PM by DoodleBob

Hmmm...that's funny..on the FDA's own site covering their "Drug Review Process", it's stated:

"It's the clinical trials that take so long--usually several years," says Sandra Kweder, M.D., deputy director of the Office of New Drugs in the CDER.

And Fauci's own wife stated publicly -

(after explaining that most viral vaccines have a “killed” virus or a piece of the virus in it): Though the COVID vaccine actually is on a new platform. It’s a messenger RNA platform. Which actually works in a slightly different way…there is messenger RNA which is injected into muscle cells, and it gives instructions to those cells to make spike protein…actually copied from the spike protein of the virus itself. So the cells make spike protein, body makes antibody to that spike protein, and then you have a certain antibody that protects against getting COVID if you encounter it in the future…it is the first vaccine that we have in distribution using the messenger RNA platform…but it’s been in development for a long time.

So....why in the Wide World of Sports, with a shot that uses a heretofore never-released platform (messenger RNA), should we trust anything - even if Trump got the ball rolling - without 2-10 years of trials?

That'd be like fast-tracking autonomous navigation systems.

[datura]

Just remember- the VPs here are actually statists like the vermin over at DU. Having a long ago FReeper date has proven over and over to hide some real leftists in here. (Just think back to each election cycle at the old timers who have been zotted.)

I too have been here a long time (and this is my second username.)

The VPs would gladly lock all of us up in camps just like the Democrats for having an opinion that differs from their government supplied talking points, and you can be sure we have been put on their “lists”.

Thank you for all of your work, ransomnote.

[MrChips]

And I knew three friends who were not vaccinated and are dead.

[bagster]

I know someone who was vaccinated this spring and hasn’t died yet.

Oh, well never mind then.

Nothing to see here, everybody. Move along.

#Vax4Everybody

[phoneman08]

Splain this Lucy.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#covidnet-hospitalizations-vaccination

[adorno]

That'd be like fast-tracking autonomous navigation systems.

Fast-tracking is right.

IOW, emergency tactics. For a real emergency.

Somebody is going to jump out of a window, where the apartment is on fire. People below come up with an emergency solution to catch the jumper. So, they come up with a fast-track solution and save the jumper with a make-shift catch-and-hope-for-the-best set of arms . The jumper is not entirely caught in their arms, and suffers a couple of bruises and a broken rib, but still survives. The jumper would not blame the solution for his injuries, but hopes he does not need that solution ever again.

IOW, fast-tracking might be the only solution available until a better one comes along

[datura]

I personally know two very elderly and sick people who died with Covid from the hospital protocols. Sedate, intubate, ventilate until death.

I personally knew three elderly yet very active and healthy people who died FROM the vax within two weeks of their second dose. Since they were not within one week, those were not counted as being from the vax.

Anyone with two functioning brain cells can see how the numbers are falsified to fit the government agenda.

To all who took the vax by choice, congratulations- that was your choice.

To all who want to force the rest of us to take this crap, GFY.

[Ouderkirk]

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

Now, I think the 10 years worth of data is big ask that is not available at this time. But, your point (as I see it) is that no-one is studying anything. It is the mRNA vax or nothing. There are no studies being performed (that we are aware of) to check the efficacy of prophylactic alternatives to the mRNA. Ivermectin, HCQ, Z-pak, or anything else.

It begets several questions: first is if this 99% survivable outside of a vulnerable populations why would we have this mRNA stuff be jammed into our bodies? Second, is If the mRNA stuff works, then why are so many who have taken it still getting sick? Third, if the mRNA stuff is so great, then why would a booster be necessary? Fourth, why are they so adamant that those who have had it and recovered take the dopey shot? What value does it confer for those who have recovered?

It seems that a reasonable conversation about anything surrounding this, is impossible with each side dug-in and irrational about their positions.

[tazman3]

WOW. That’s a mic drop moment.

Great work. Thanks.

[proust]

Ten years? Vaxx shills need a time machine. 🤣

[datura]

The freedom of choice side merely wants to be free to choose our own health care direction. That is not irrational.

Look at your own tag line.

We have no desire to be RULED.

[El Cid]

Re: 18

Attached is the link to the Steve Kirsch website, and his calculations (actually it was 150k, not 250k).

Calculation of Deaths due to Shots