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Community Conversation with Dr. Christine Grady: Ethics of a COVID-19 Vaccine (Fauci's wife...with partial transcript)
YouTube ^ | February 2, 2021 | ChildrensLawCenterDC

Posted on 05/17/2021 7:54:56 PM PDT by DoodleBob

We hear from Dr. Grady, an expert in the field of bioethics, human trials and vaccines, who will share the ethical considerations involved in the research and development, testing and distribution of a vaccine. We also discuss what each of us can do—for ourselves, our families and our communities—to overcome the impact of COVID-19. Featuring: Dr. Christine Grady (Chief, Department of Bioethics, National Institutes of Health Clinical Center).


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christinegrady; conflictofinterest; fauci; vaccines
First, who the heck OK's this clear conflict of interest?

Second, I strongly dislike it when people post long videos without either a synopsis or transcript. As such, I am providing this transcript on a best efforts basis with my own comments where I felt like it.

1:08: I think what’s really interesting is the question of children. And, I don’t know if you’re going there, but I was going to say (nervous laugh), you know, so far, these large vaccine trials that Tony mentioned (ed note: this is from September 2020) that are in Phase 3, none of them are including children yet. And so the question will be, when do we start thinking about safety in children, and efficacy in children…and then, you know, depending upon the data, they may be able to use extrapolation and other kinds of statistical methods that they’re familiar with and that the FDA uses (dramatic hand wave suggesting triviality) to try to extrapolate the data from the adults to the children.

That they were thinking it was OK to extrapolate adult medical results onto children is unreal. Extrapolation is acceptable when there is a level of homogeneity across the extrapolation zone. In this case, the physiology of a child is way different, and even statistical corrections may not hold true for a new virus OR a new vaccine.

7:27 (after explaining that most viral vaccines have a “killed” virus or a piece of the virus in it): Though the COVID vaccine actually is on a new platform. It’s a messenger RNA platform. Which actually works in a slightly different way…there is messenger RNA which is injected into muscle cells, and it gives instructions to those cells to make spike protein…actually copied from the spike protein of the virus itself. So the cells make spike protein, body makes antibody to that spike protein, and then you have a certain antibody that protects against getting COVID if you encounter it in the future…it is the first vaccine that we have in distribution using the messenger RNA platform…but it’s been in development for a long time.

15:48 (talking about whether or not pregnant women and/or children were in the trials): In those trials that were done, that were so successful, there were all adults, people over 18…pregnant women were excluded, children were excluded.

31:24: (why do you trust the process and why should we trust it?) We have this entity called “Operation Warp Speed” which had a role in both setting priorities and enabling the process mostly by financial resources and sort of guidance in that regard. I think the title “Operation Warp Speed” is unfortunate, because I think it added to the concerns that you just described, in terms of people worrying about not only speed but political pressure to do things that might not have otherwise been done…despite the politicization, and despite some of the pressures that we heard about, the data and safety monitoring board is an independent entity, and they met very frequently and very privately…and they were the ones that…gave the go-ahead…we can say to the companies it’s OK to put the package together and get an Emergency Use Authorization considered.

So Dr. Grady basically admits that the 'governing authority' over not just the process but TIMING of the publicizing of when a vaccine may be coming was done "privately."

46:10 (the interviewer): Some of these decisions were made under a previous administration. We have a new president and a new administration…is there a change with the new president? (Dr. Grady) Well, there are certainly many changes with the new president. A couple of things that come to mind…that are known to the public. One is, the explicit valuing of science, is very important in this endeavor.

57:26 “…should COVID vaccines be mandated for healthcare providers?” My response is the following…in many healthcare institutions, healthcare workers are required to take flu vaccines…in order to take care of patients, in order to protect the patients. I think that…where we are in the history of this pandemic, I don’t think mandating is the right choice at this point, for several reasons. We still need more data…the two vaccines that are being distributed are under an Emergency Use Authorization – they are not approved vaccines (emphasis from Dr. Grady)…and there is this background of concern about politicization…and distrust…that I think it's a mistake to force people to take it. So I don’t think we should be mandating vaccines.

If Dr. Grady wasn't in favor of mandating the vaccine for healthcare workers in Feb 2021 because there wasn't enough data and because these aren't approved vaccines (her words, not mine) and due to politicization, why are so many people clamoring for a mandate?

1 posted on 05/17/2021 7:54:56 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

Mrs. Fauci. She should have the honesty to declare her affiliation.


2 posted on 05/17/2021 7:58:50 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Buy American, Hire American! End All Worker Visa Programs. Replace Visa Workers w/ American Wo)
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To: Reno89519

Not much of a “marriage” if you can’t at least hyphenate the surnames.

What s she-dog.


3 posted on 05/17/2021 8:02:19 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: DoodleBob

I think the real reason they don’t want to mandate vaccines is because it will entail immediate multiple lawsuits. A federal mandate will mean a federal lawsuit with all sorts of discovery from federal agencies.

Stuff that they might be able to hide from FOIA requests through various exceptions would come out in discovery.

Do you think the CDC/NIH/NIAID can “prove” the medical and public health need for a mandate in court after the opposing expert witnesses shred their handling of data as well as their interpretations of it?

If these people thought they could get the courts to support forced vaccinations, they’d be on it like white on rice.


4 posted on 05/17/2021 8:25:55 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: DoodleBob

Just what we needed, another Fauci mouth unleashed.


5 posted on 05/17/2021 8:25:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Folks, if you haven't yet, please start an automatic monthly for Jim and his crew.)
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To: Reno89519

The vaccine industry is pure evil

And it’s pushers are the demoncats and criminals at the commie dictator corporation ( CDC)

did you know the CDC has 40. Forty ! Patents on vaccines ?

Evil. Fraud. Death merchants. Liars. That’s the best I can say about these detestable scum


6 posted on 05/17/2021 8:33:27 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (Arizona !!!! Now the TRUMP TRAIN is getting back on TRACK ! TRUTH! FREEDOM ! LIBERTY! )
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To: DoodleBob

That they were thinking it was OK to extrapolate adult medical results onto children is unreal.

Totally agree. Her very cavalier attitude about giving the vaccine to children based on extrapolation is frightening.


7 posted on 05/17/2021 8:42:17 PM PDT by Flick Lives (“Today we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives.”)
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To: DoodleBob

I never trust someone who doesn’t take their husband’s last name. As a husband, my greatest joy was my wife accepting my last name and us becoming one in God. Her accepting my last name has nothing to do with her being subservient to me. To the contrary, she enhances me and I’d be less without her.


8 posted on 05/17/2021 9:00:22 PM PDT by Nathan _in_Arkansas (Shut the deuce up!!! I'll do the fighting!!!)
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To: DoodleBob

I barfed after I saw just 1 minute of this video. It’s as bad as the so-called vaccine.


9 posted on 05/17/2021 10:41:22 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Islam is an ideology. It is NOT a religion.)
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To: DoodleBob

For THOSE who still think that the Covid death/Case numbers are real or know someone that thinks that, check this out yourself and share it with a non believer! Use your favorite search engine (Duckduckgo, Google) and type in ANY 3 DIGIT number then the word “New Cases” and search and watch what happens.

YOU TOO can MAKE UP your OWN headlining case numbers and articles on TOP news websites around the world like the New York Time, Times of India and MANY others.

Try it SEVERAL TIMES to be sure it’s not a fluke! IT’s ALL FAKE! Hope you enjoy the show.


10 posted on 05/18/2021 1:28:12 AM PDT by afchief
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To: DoodleBob

Thank you for posting!

snip:
If Dr. Grady wasn’t in favor of mandating the vaccine for healthcare workers in Feb 2021 because there wasn’t enough data and because these aren’t approved vaccines (her words, not mine) and due to politicization, why are so many people clamoring for a mandate?

BUMP!


11 posted on 05/22/2021 11:26:52 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (If I wanted to live in China, I would move there!)
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To: DoughtyOne; lightman
FYI - the video was removed from YouTube for "violating community standards"! It can still be found here on the website of the Children's Law Center DC.
12 posted on 04/29/2023 4:15:02 AM PDT by DoodleBob ( Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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