These vaccines are a total joke.
Mojo (the banned liberal troll) says:
You go to war with the army you have...
Bagster says:
Posted on 10/14/2021 9:33:55 PM PDT by DoodleBob
SARS-CoV-2 has taken us on a rollercoaster, and not just on graphs of case counts. The natural tendency to project linearity to trends makes each hill and dip feel unnatural. The media exacerbates perceptual changes with its hyperfocal attention on each new development, even expected ones like breakthrough infections. People feel they are being jolted around.
The early efficacy results of the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna were positively stunning. Demonstrating more than 90% vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic infection when the goal was a 50% reduction in severe disease caught people off guard. It was the first bit of good news in quite a while, coming at a time when school buildings were shut in much of the country and we adapted to e-school, working from home, and the awkwardness of Zoom happy hours. When vaccines started to be given in December 2020, people began to envision a world without COVID-19.
Things have not turned out that way. Despite commanding the greatest portion of vaccine supply and getting a head start, vaccinations in the US have fallen behind that of most high-income countries; at this writing, the US is at the bottom of the G7 and 60th in the world in percentage vaccinated. However, that is only part of the picture. The virus has not waited for us to vaccinate the world’s population- it keeps evolving towards more transmissible variants. In the Delta variant, SARS-CoV-2 has transformed into not just a highly transmissible variant, but one of the world’s most transmissible infectious diseases. We are fortunate that Delta came to the US after vaccines became widely available or we would be looking at a very different society right now.
The combination of Delta and vaccine hesitancy has cost many lives, but it also highlights the need to reset expectations on the COVID-19 endgame. Herd immunity may never have been a realistic goal, but it seems clear it is an impossibility. Over the next several years, everyone is likely to be infected with SARS-CoV-2. With the attenuation that vaccination provides, most vaccinated people will have asymptomatic, mild, or moderate infection. Unvaccinated people with previous COVID-19 will have less severe reinfection, and the ever-decreasing number of unvaccinated people without previous COVID-19 will be susceptible to severe disease.
The continued spread of immunity, whether acquired by vaccination or infection, will drive overall cases down. However, the incomplete nature of immunity and future mutations in SARS-CoV-2 will allow it to remain a circulating human pathogen like other endemic human coronaviruses.
One of the most apparent issues that the pandemic has revealed is ineffective communication. To increase vaccine uptake, ‘get vaccinated and you’re good’ became the narrative. People listened. When Delta became pervasive and changed things again, momentum towards a ‘post-pandemic’ dream was harder to change. Therefore, it is time to prepare people for a future with endemic COVID-19 now. We won’t be masked forever, but we aren’t wiping the virus off the earth either.
I know people in 50+ age group that came down with it. They were all healthy and were able to fight it off without treatment. It knocked the stuffing out of a 70 year old friend for a few days, but he recovered without treatment.
Who would believe that there's anyone on the planet who hasn't been exposed to SARS COVID-19? We're TWO YEARS into this. It's in populations of wild animals and pets.
As for the claim that the "unvaccinated" will be susceptible to severe disease, the data is already pointing to who got the Jim Jones Jab are already being more susceptible:
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/covid-is-surging-in-waterford-ireland-where-99-7-percent-are-double-vaccinated/
:: Both Pfizer and Moderna start above 90% in preventing infection. I assume that’s what you mean by immunity. ::
Well, well, well.
What you have postulated above \confounds\ “prohylaxis” and “immunity” into a single concept.
They are separate outcomes.
AKA: You are either poorly informed or lying in support of the current NEWscience fascists.
Did you have the ChickenPox virus as a child?
Have you ever read “1984”?
How about “Atlas Shrugged”?
Don't be obtuse. Tell me what you mean by immunity vs. prophylaxis.
And you enter into a conversation without the knowledge of the basic concepts contained there-in.
You’re now at the point of throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks.
Your plea is a misdirection and an attempt to set up a streawman.
No Takers, shill
(I continue to ping others because of their known interest in this type of conversation.)
That it is, but that also means the Lord is coming as well.
I'm sure your buddies think that's clever.
These vaccines are a total joke.
Mojo (the banned liberal troll) says:
You go to war with the army you have...
Bagster says:
Of course I shouldn't be surprised that someone susceptible to bizarre cults would be unable to comprehend sarcasm.
Too late, Mojo the Banned. Cat's out of the bag.
You ain't tap dancing your way out of this one.
Here then, is the point...
Both immunity and prophylaxis are already in the vernacular and found to be “common sense” definitions.
For you to request MY definition of immunity and prophylaxis is a strawman construct intent on tearing-down by way of the Big Lebowski: “that’s YOUR opinion, man!”
Henceforth YOU have no solid opinion of either term.
You are now constrained to the common-sense definition of both and are REQUIRED to defend your position from there.
All other efforts are simple deflection.
So...does the VAXX create immunity?
Or, is it simply a prophylaxis no better than Z-pak and Vicks Vapo-Rub?
I notice you never include the next sentence of that post.
Mojo the Banned goes on to 'quote' himself:
"Of course I shouldn't be surprised that someone susceptible to bizarre cults would be unable to comprehend sarcasm."
You're right, Mojo the Banned. I should have posted your whole quote. Here it is....
Funny. It looks nothing like what you said it said. So I guess you're lying and doing the derp fandango to try to dance your way out of your admission.
Luckily, people can go look at what you actually said, Liar McBannypants.
To quote Lloyd Bridges...
Today was not good day to stop drinking.
Or, was it?
Naturally...cov19 ain’t nothing more than
a weaponized cold virus...ever try to get vax
for the ever-mutating cold?
Loads of side effects regarding heart
complications on record already.
COVID will exist as long as there are elections.
There is np one "VAXX". There are several vaccines and they each produce a different degree of immunity, that is, unlike antibiotics they stimulate our immune systems to fight the infection. The immunity provided by mRNA ones appears to wane somewhat over time.
Is there anyone here who doesn't know that?
Do you want to discuss your position or are you going to continue to throw dust in the air instead of engaging in a conversation.
:: There are several vaccines and they each produce a different degree of immunity ::
Yeah...that’s how ALL vaccines have worked for, like, forever.
How many boosters of polio did you get?
How many boosters of chicken pox did you get.
How many boosters of measles did you get?
:: Do you want to discuss your position ::
The following can be definitively stated:
- The COVID-19 EUA injections are not vaccines in any sense of the term.
- SARS-COVID-19 is a human-enhanced bioweapon, engineered from a known corona-virus (the common cold).
- You need new conspiracy theories, all the ones you spout are actually not theories.
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