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Senator Ron Johnson Exposes Vaccine Scandal Of The Decade
The Beltway Report ^ | October 5, 2021 | Staff Writer

Posted on 10/06/2021 1:38:28 AM PDT by Grandpa Drudge

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To: tnlibertarian

Do you think no one “vaxxed” could have carried it to India?


41 posted on 10/06/2021 7:47:56 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" )
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To: tnlibertarian
Re: "The Delta variant was first identified in India in December 2020."

I have read that, but I have never seen a specific journal citation for that discovery.

In any event, the Delta Variant has had at least two significant mutations since its discovery, and it did not become a Variant of Concern until April 2021.

We also have 4 million Asian Indians living in the USA, and travel between the USA and India was not significantly restricted until Summer 2021.

I have a back up theory just in case.

The Delta Variant did not start raging through India until the Indian and Chinese border troops started shooting at each other.

Perhaps the Delta Variant is Wuhan Flu #2?

42 posted on 10/06/2021 7:53:25 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: iontheball

Because over half of the World are uneducated/illiterate/don’t know how to tie shoes (if they even have a pair) and don’t have Internet to find out the TRUTH because aren’t going to get the TRUTH from the A$$media and the “elite” scumbags.

See un Agenda 21, it’s All part ot the big plan to CONTROL THE POPULATION !! https://csglobe.com/agenda-21-depopulation-95-world-2030/. Basically it’s All about “them” being powerful control freaks. AKA bill gates/soros/the bush clan and such types.

Hence the Gun Control and the reason America’s gun owners are who they are.

One Man with a gun can control a 1000 people.


43 posted on 10/06/2021 8:19:59 AM PDT by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: albie; dsc
Why force 100% inoculation? We know it’s not for our own good....

I think dsc has posted the correct answer.

To further expand on the subject see: Opinion:The War against control groups

There was a brief kerfuffle in the past several weeks about some unvaccinated people referring to themselves as "purebloods", but, as time goes on, the unvaccinated may pose more and more of a threat to TPTB.

44 posted on 10/06/2021 8:55:14 AM PDT by LSAggie
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To: Travis McGee; Grandpa Drudge; ransomnote; Cathi; metmom; grey_whiskers; Fractal Trader; ...

Bumping and pinging these....the article, and, Travis McGee’s Dr Malone/UK post.


45 posted on 10/06/2021 9:07:53 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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To: DugwayDuke
Did you read the part about "FDA-Approved" and "FDA-Authorized under Emergency Use Authorization?"

Why do you keep wanting to skip right past this part?

-PJ

46 posted on 10/06/2021 10:06:35 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: DugwayDuke

You’re a liar.
Nothing new.


47 posted on 10/06/2021 10:08:33 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ((The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.))
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To: DugwayDuke
That’s distinction without a difference. Did you read the material you posted? The part about ‘identical’ and ‘interchangeable’?

Here' more...

Didn't the FDA and CDC say that it's okay to mix the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines between the two shots?

Then why does the FDA include this in their fact sheet?

CAN I RECEIVE THE COMIRNATY (COVID-19 VACCINE, mRNA) OR PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE AT THE SAME TIME AS OTHER VACCINES?

Data have not yet been submitted to FDA on administration of COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) or the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine at the same time with other vaccines. If you are considering receiving COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) or the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine with other vaccines, discuss your options with your healthcare provider.

If they are "interchangeable," apparently they are not interchangeable the way that Pfizer and Moderna are interchangeable.

That's a difference, too.

-PJ

48 posted on 10/06/2021 10:13:27 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

Because he is one of the known FR VAXSHILLS and jumps on everything thread along with 5 or six others, they are very hardworking and earn their keep $$$


49 posted on 10/06/2021 10:29:39 AM PDT by boxlunch (Texas: 10th Amendment/nullification or Texit? PS The MSM are complicit in war against us.)
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To: boxlunch
I know.

He's the worst of them because he posts his nonsense repeatedly as if the facts just presented didn't exist, and refuses to change his opinion on anything. Some people won't budge an inch when presented with the facts, because this is somehow an admission of less-than-perfect knowledge.

I don't mind a discussion of alternative study results, but ignoring plain facts as presented directly from the FDA is a credibility buster.

While these two drugs have similar and interchangeable formulas, they are legally two distinct products. One is FDA-approved, and the other is still only FDA-authorized under Emergence Use Authorization, according to the FDA's own fact sheet.

To deny this is to undermine one's own credibility.

-PJ

50 posted on 10/06/2021 10:37:04 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: iontheball; Gene Eric; Jane Long; Travis McGee; Grandpa Drudge; ransomnote; Cathi; metmom; ...
iontheball :" It’s obvious this was a contrived deception by the FDA and Pfizer.
and later :" The two need to hide behind the EUA because Pfizer gets its liability protection and the FDA can continue to ban HCQ and Ivermectin. "

Point #1) It is contrived deception that is called "bait and switch" and it is a criminal act.
Point#2) "..the EUA because Pfizer gets its liability protection and the FDA can continue to ban HCQ and Ivermectin."
Both medications are already approved by the FDA, it's just that the two medications are not approved for "Off Label" usage (ie.: covid)
Old adage:" You will never find a solution to your problem if you aren't even looking".
There has been no FDA funded investigation into HCQ or Ivermectin for covid usage, or covid prevention.
This despite usage in several third-world countries which have resulted in positive and good results.
In other words, the FDA/ NIH/ CDC inaction on HCQ and Ivermectin studies has resulted in gro$$ profit$ for the pharmaceuticals
while intentionally ignoring other known and already FDA approved medications.

51 posted on 10/06/2021 11:02:32 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

And their inaction has resulted in many unnecessary deaths.

They have proved themselves willing to sacrifice your life to attain their goals of power and control.


52 posted on 10/06/2021 11:41:59 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith)
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To: metmom

BIG PHARMA SUCKING UP MORE DOLLARS. THERE IS NO END TO THEIR GREED.


53 posted on 10/06/2021 11:46:03 AM PDT by JayAr36 (My disgust with government is complete.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Knowingly negligent medical malpractice equates to premeditated homicide as far as I am concerned. Arrest them, try them and hang them all from the highest tree and no one will weep for the puppets of the CCP.


54 posted on 10/06/2021 1:03:24 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Political Junkie Too wrote: “The COMIRNITY drug is “FDA-Approved” while the Pfizer-BioNTech drug is only “FDA-Authorized under Emergency Use Authorization.””

and this:

“The licensed vaccine has the same formulation as the EUA-authorized vaccine and the products can be
used interchangeably to provide the vaccination series without presenting any safety or effectiveness
concerns. The products are legally distinct with certain differences that do not impact safety or
effectiveness.”

Please explain how products may have the same formulation and be interchangeable and still be different products?

The only explanation I see is that you realize that if you accept that the approval of one product means both products are approved undermines the essence of your resistance to the vaccines.


55 posted on 10/10/2021 4:23:35 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke
Please explain how products may have the same formulation and be interchangeable and still be different products?

Don't ask me, ask the FDA. They put that statement in their document, not me.

Why don't you explain to me why the FDA won't call the Pfizer vaccine FDA-approved like they do with Comirnaty in their document? Why do they still refer to it as only FDA-authorized for emergency use?

What do you think their reason is to keep the terminology different even if the formulas are the same and the drugs are interchangeable (except when splitting doses with Moderna)?

Until you can explain to me why the FDA is describing them as having different designations of approval/authorization, the fact that they have the same formulas is irrelevant to me.

I'd like to know more about what those "certain differences" are if the formulas are exactly the same. I suspect they are not exactly the same in that they may, for example, have different inert solutions that hold the actual formulated vaccine agents, but they aren't elaborating on this point.

Oh, and don't try to read my mind. Imputing my thoughts won't help your argument and means nothing to me.

If you want to know why I think the FDA is keeping the Pfizer-branded vaccine as FDA-authorized and not FDA-approved, it's because of this:

-PJ

56 posted on 10/10/2021 5:05:31 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

Political Junkie Too wrote: “If you want to know why I think the FDA is keeping the Pfizer-branded vaccine as FDA-authorized and not FDA-approved, it’s because of this:”

Here are a couple of articles which should clear this up.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-ron-johnson-us-does-not-have-approved-comirnaty-pfizer-vaccine-1636455

Of particular note are these statements:
Quote
When do vaccine name changes happen?
Before a vaccine (or any product) gets FDA approval, it’s known by the company that created it (Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, etc.).
Once an FDA approval is granted, the company selects a brand name for use in the U.S. Until that time, the company is not allowed to advertise or use a brand name, even with an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA).
Is everything else the same?
For now, everything about the vaccine remains the same, including its ingredients and formulations. The only change is the name.
Unquote.

Quote
Can I still use the old name? Are the instances where the manufacturer name will still be used?
Short answer, yes! Though here’s where things can get a little confusing. Comirnaty is the official name for Pfizer’s FDA approved vaccine. That two-dose vaccine is approved for people ages 16 and older. It’s not yet fully approved for people ages 12–15; or people receiving a third dose or booster.
For those instances, the vaccine is available under the EUA. If you remember from earlier, under an EUA the vaccine will go by the name of the company that developed it.
Here’s a few technicalities using Pfizer’s vaccine as an example:
If you’re an 18-year-old getting your first and second dose — you’re getting what’s known as Comirnaty. Your 15-year-old sibling getting a shot at the same time will be getting the Pfizer vaccine.
You’re an immunocompromised individual who’s eligible for a third shot. You’re getting the Pfizer vaccine.
You’re an adult over the age of 65 who’s now eligible for a booster. You’re getting the Pfizer vaccine.
Again, same vaccine — just different names depending on who’s receiving it.
Unquote.

BTW, Moderna and J&J vaccines will undergo a name change when they’re approved.

And this Article:

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-ron-johnson-us-does-not-have-approved-comirnaty-pfizer-vaccine-1636455

Fact Check: Ron Johnson’s ‘We Do Not Have an Approved Vaccine’ Claim

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This claim, which has been made by others, boils down to the fact that the FDA approved the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine on August 23, and said it would from that point be marketed as Comirnaty.

At the same time, it extended an existing EUA for the vaccine. This was so those aged 12 to 15 could receive the vaccine, as is it approved only for those aged 16 and above.

As The Washington Post reported in August, some falsely claimed this means that the Pfizer vaccine has not been approved and was really just a way for the FDA to mandate the old emergency use version of the vaccine.

unquote

And this:

Chris Beyrer, an epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, told The Washington Post in August that Pfizer COVID vaccines made before the approval could not legally be given Comirnaty branding, even when they are exactly the same.

He said: “That’s why there may be, for some time, EUA Pfizer doses in use before [fully approved] Comirnaty becomes more widely available... This is standard, nothing unusual, and [it] does not void an EUA.”

Newsweek has contacted the FDA to ask if Comirnaty-labelled doses are currently available in the U.S.

Walgreens, for instance, states that the Comirnaty vaccine is available at its stores, and specifically adds that the EUA version is available for children aged 12-15—making a distinction between the two.

Unquote.

So,
Comirnaty is available in the US
Comirnaty and the vaccine previously known as Pfizer-BioNTech COVID‑19 are in fact the same thing.
Vaccines made before the full approval must be referred to as Pfizer-BioNTech COVID‑19 and those made after approval must be referred to as Comirnaty.

I hope this clears up any confusion. I must admit that FDA could have been clearer.


57 posted on 10/10/2021 6:24:44 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke
So do you then believe that the Moderna and J&J vaccines must have their EUA immediately rescinded and the products pulled from distribution because there is now an FDA-approved treatment available, which invalidates the EUA?

-PJ

58 posted on 10/10/2021 11:07:24 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

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59 posted on 10/10/2021 11:19:11 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Pollard
The products are legally distinct with certain differences that do not impact safety or effectiveness

THAT is what they are hiding from us.

60 posted on 10/10/2021 11:23:26 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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