When the vaccinated become the unvaccinated (vanity)

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[armydoc]

I'm sure I'm not the first Freeper to think about this, but I haven't seen it widely discussed. Currently the vaccinated are held up in an exalted status with some of them, mostly on the left, feeling quite smug and self righteous. What happens when they are told they must get a booster or they will lose this status and be considered as one of the despised, lowly unvacced? My opinion is that there will be plenty, again mostly on the left, that will gladly submit to boosters ad infinitum to maintain their moral superiority. But, more importantly, I think there's going to be a huge number that will draw the line and refuse. Thoughts?

[arthurus]

I am already highly resistant to flu and have not had a flu shot in 55 years. I have not had flu or colds in 16 years. The difference is D3 supplements. In the Florida Keys no supplement would be needed, just short sleeves and some outside time each day.

[outofsalt]

I’m a healthcare worker. I have documented antibodies to COVID. Twice, six months apart. I probably got it at work since I treat COVID patients in the OR and ICU.

Six Months ago I was being called a, “hero” now my job is threatened if I don’t get vaxxed. SMH

[DoodleBob]

The media has chosen yet again another class warfare to divide this nation.

I forget who said it, but this is a good reminder that red and black ants in a jar don't fight until someone shakes the jar - their anger should be at the overlord holding the jar.

Sadly, that divisiveness has spilled onto FR, with the people getting the shots referred to as "sheep" etc., and a few pro-shot people aiming at the people who haven't gotten shots.

Everyone has their own situation...forget about the relatively untested messenger RNA platform and the declining vaccine effectiveness shown in the clinical trial data (i.e., their own data), that decays across the three checkpoints after the second dose -

a) it starts at 96.2% at the seven day to two month point (based on this disclosure and my understanding of surveillance time, it looks like an average of 48 days),
b) falls to 90.1% at the two to four months point (about 95 days on average), and
c) falls to 83.7% at the final/more than four months after the second dose point (about 125 days on average).

If I am elderly, immune-compromised, and want to watch my granddaughter get married, etc., I can see someone opting for these shots. That doesn't make them sheep, or stupid, or a member of the CFR etc.

Alternatively, someone who sees all this data and information, not to mention the absence of a multi-year clinical trial to assess long-term impacts (what happens if at the 23 month mark your left eyeball pops out? Whoops...better recall the shots...) and decides they're willing to accept a 1.8% case fatality rate, which is as low as 0.04% if you're between 19-29, that doesn't ipso facto make you a rabid anti-vaxxer.

As with any situation, there are people dug in. I suspect about 15% of the pro-shot folks will get boosters happily and willingly even if eyeballs fall out. I also suspect there is about 20% of the anti-shot folks who would rather pluck out their eye before taking these shots.

This means 75% of the public will face this decision: booster or not? If people who are anti-shot were smart, they'd strategize and plan, but time is short.

If I'm correct and this thing is seasonal, regardless of shot status we will soon see a seasonal surge in cases, hospitalizations and fatalities. It's not a tough case to make: The majority of deaths in most countries can be attributed to causes that feature a distinct seasonal pattern. The figure depicts the relative monthly frequencies of nine selected causes of death in the United States for women and men combined for the years 1959–2014. The reported number of counts in parentheses in the title of each panel is the actual number of deaths.

A smart strategist would wisely note to those on the fence, "Viruses gonna virus." This bug isn't polio and "the jab" won't render people immune for life. We have to ignore the authority bias and face up to the likely reality that promising eradication or even herd immunity via vaccination is like promising an end to world hunger via the UN...

A prudential approach would be to lay out the options - perpetual boosters with unknown long-term impacts that may or may not keep out out of the grave, or take better care of your health (yaelle has some interesting observations/actual data on what helped) and face a bug with a 98.2% survival rate.

I suspect we'd find many people open to reason if the spokesperson isn't yelling. But be prepared for the onslaught - lots of jar-shakers won't like this approach.

[RideForever]

They do not want to lose the ride on the golden egg.

That's why I mentioned 'fully informed consent', because it was a fail on his part, conferring legal liability on his actions of recommending the 'jab' over natural immunity.

And I presented the question of how he will treat the 'spikes' from CoVID my body may have, as exposed by autopsies of CoVID victims.

[logi_cal869]

Where can I volunteer to distribute them?

[alexander_busek]

At this time, what does your Dr. know that you don’t ?

Your doctor knows jeez-not-another-one-of-these-vaxx-deniers-i-don't-have-time-for-this-chit-there-are-25-other-patients-in-the-waiting-room-and-i-want-to-go-to-lunch-on-time "You'll be fine!"

Regards,

[discostu]

How many people get the flu shot every year? Plenty of people got no problem with that. I saw it was forever a year and a half ago. Welcome aboard.

[jimwatx]

In my small circle of family and friends most are saying no to a booster, including some on the left.

[alexander_busek]

I have lost three good friends who did not take them

How many good friends have you not lost who did not take them?

Regards,

[Roman_War_Criminal]

👍
I will never understand the fear with this bioweapon.
Who wants to live in a totalitarian gulag world where you are threatened with “get your booster” notices weekly by the same people pointing a gun to your head?

Folks need to realize that with every passing day we’re becoming more enslaved.

[cyclotic]

After all the lies and politics, I don’t trust the word of any doctors anymore. Especially ones connected with large hospitals and organizations

[Bell Bouy II]

Most dont stay current on anything medical by attending conferences,reading journals etc. The go day by day doing the same thing they have always done which isn’t much.
The WWW has provided the avg Joe with a wealth of self help knowledge.

[cgbg]

What ever happened to the flu anyway?

It disappeared—a miracle!

[cgbg]

How many slaves obey orders from their masters.

Plenty of people saw no problem with that.

Welcome aboard!

[TheShaz]

If they are going to force the Jab, they will also try to force the boosters.

I agree with the OP that many who willingly took the Jab are going to question the lack of any logic on behalf of the government.

“You said take the jab and I will be safe. But now I have to take a booster every couple of months? What is wrong with the original Jab?”

This is the mental conversation I expect many who took the Jab are going to be pondering over.

[discostu]

Oh look you’ve already reduced yourself to strawmen and insults. So clearly we both know you’ve got no facts or logic. We’re done. Have fun pounding the table.

[cyclotic]

Some moron health department dweeb from my county gave a report to County Council this week where he said there were exactly two cases of Flu last year.

The audience broke out laughing at this dork.

[cgbg]

That explains it—I pounded the table and flu flew away!

Magic!

[yetidog]

I have lost three good friends who did not take them
How many good friends have you not lost who did not take them?

I was not seeking a response-—much less a sarcastic and fallacious once. But like an annoying extended car warranty phone call, I seemed to have got one anyway.

[wgmalabama]

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