Posted on 09/06/2021 10:45:16 AM PDT by Grandpa Drudge
Results.—
Patients dying of or with COVID-19 had an average of 8.89 pathologic conditions documented at autopsy, spanning a combination of prior chronic disease and acute conditions acquired during hospitalization. Virtually all decedents were cited as having more than 1 preexisting condition, encompassing an average of 2.88 such diseases each. Clinical conditions during terminal hospitalization were cited 395 times for the 135 autopsied decedents and predominantly encompassed acute failure of multiple organ systems and/or impaired coagulation. Myocarditis was rarely cited.
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How about this?
From the absrtact in this autopsy:
"A previously symptomless 86-year-old man received the first dose of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccine. He died 4 weeks later from acute renal and respiratory failure. Although he did not present with any COVID-19-specific symptoms, he tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 before he died. Spike protein (S1) antigen-binding showed significant levels for immunoglobulin (Ig) G, while nucleocapsid IgG/IgM was not elicited."
Note carefully in that statement -
Although he did not present with any COVID-19-specific symptoms, he tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 before he died. Spike protein (S1) antigen-binding showed significant levels for immunoglobulin (Ig) G, while nucleocapsid IgG/IgM was not elicited
I am not a doctor, nor am I qualified to certify any conclusions from autopsies, however I HAVE accumulated a considerable amount of common sense understanding of important differences in various Covid-19 tests.
See
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3991215/posts
Now directly to the point of this autopsy
he tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 before he died. Spike protein (S1) antigen-binding showed significant levels for immunoglobulin (Ig) G
That specific test is positive precisely because he had been vaccinated. That test is actually designed to evaluate the presence of antibodies to the spike protein generated as a result of the mRNA vaccines,
while nucleocapsid IgG/IgM was not elicited
The fact that this test was negative is very simple proof that he had NOT been infected with Covid-19. (the nucleocapsid test is precisely designed to test for antibodies to the Covid-19 virus itself, and deliberately does NOT test for antibodies to the spike protein generated by the vaccine .
In my opinion, this death was probably caused by the vaccine, and was actually not related at all to natural infection from Covid-19
I suggest this is very strong evidence that this vaccine is extremely dangerous for some people.
Furthermore, serious critical review by competent scientists MUST be completed ASAP to resolve this very obvious question.
Why don’t you get a mask made of cotton gauze? It looks real but in a dark color it is like not wearing anything. Look on Etsy.
Because I don't believe pretense, trickery, etc. demonstrating that I am just pretending to be a sheep instead of a real bull helps anybody, including me.
It is a given that getting the vaccination puts you at risk as well. That is not even contestable. It is a fact. There IS risk involved, if you were inoculated, you probably signed a release I would guess. One of those things that say:
“Possible side effects include dizziness, nausea, greasy anal discharge, obsessive compulsive behavior, embolism of the testes, loss of eyesight, loss of motor function...”
You get the idea. (I made that all up-those aren’t real...I think)
The point is, you many not get the virus, especially if you have already had it, but...if you get the vaccine, there is a clear and measurable risk that you MAY get clots, anaphylactic reactions, and assist unwittingly in the mutation of a future variant against which vaccines are less effective, if they are effective at all.
Most of us are adults about this and do our own risk-vs-benefit analysis, and factor in the likelihood of getting Covid that develops into a serious case (a REAL risk) against the risk of getting blood clots from one of the vaccines (a REAL risk as well).
Let’s face it-if 40% of the people getting Covid actually die as was the case with the plague or smallpox-would we even be having these discussions at all? Of course we wouldn’t. That people would clamor to get the vaccine, stampeding locations that were rumored to have supplies in stock, is a foregone conclusion.
This virus is NOT that. It kills perhaps 2-3% of the people it infects, and those people it kills are disproportionally clustered in very specific groups (Age groups with medical co-morbidities like diabetes and obesity)
The virus is not a hoax. People dying from it is not a hoax. But the political handling of this by both politicians and the media is one of the most horrible hoaxes in the history of this nation.
There was never a public risk versus benefit analysis done that drove policy, as would be done by responsible adults. Instead, we shut our economy down, put hardworking people out of business, destroyed businesses that people had lovingly nurtured and grown, robbed years of both educational and emotional development from young people to whom that development was vital, and applied a one-size-fits-all approach to this virus that destroyed everything across the board.
In the end, it should come down to the individual choice. But they have taken that freedom away from us, and I view that as unconstitutional. Sure, people will say I am free to refuse the vaccine, but if I do, I cannot make a living. In my field, it isn’t as if I can go to another facility and get a job there in my profession.
Most importantly, a scientific study indicated that cloth masks were actually more dangerous than no mask at all.
Check this response in another thread for details.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3988508/posts?page=36#36
See my post above.
I agree with Grandpa Drudge on this, but I admit various things have crossed my mind.
At work, I wear my mask properly because of my line of work.
If I go to a store and they mandate a mask inside, I choose not to go inside.
But if I do something where I don’t have a choice (such as going on a plane) I wear the mask so absurdly poorly worn that it attracts attention. And if I can exploit a rule such as having the mask off while eating, I ate something nearly the entire flight. It might have taken me a minute to eat a single peanut, that kind of thing. (regrettably, it made my flight companion somewhat uncomfortable due to the attention I am sure it drew)
I feel that resistance to these things is a just and patriotic option. I have no problem if someone uses a falsified vaccine passport. The system should be flooded with them, IMO since it is Unconstitutional.
I did consider taking a paper-hole puncher, and punching so many holes in a mask to see if anyone said anything, but decided I haven’t reached that point yet. If I do and someone calls me out on it, I am going to point at someone who has a bandana over their face and say “How is this worse than that?”
You get the idea.
I have no issue with people who feel the need to wear a mask. I would actually be more impressed if they wore a full N95 mask all the time, but if they want to put a bandana, gauze, or simple disposable mask, or two, or three, that is their business. And I feel exactly the same about vaccines.
But I am hopping and steaming mad that these mandates are being pushed due to a virus like this one.
However, the risk from this virus is MUCH lower than your suggestion that "It kills perhaps 2-3% of the people it infects".
The fact is that it kills much less than 1% of the people it infects, and almost (if not all) of those it kills have significant comorbidity or are over age 70.
Covid-19 fatality rate is very similar to historical influenza fatality rates.
If you are healthy, the risk this virus will kill you is almost zero
There are plenty of scientific studies the show this, and many have been presented in Free Republic forums.
That’s murder by vaccine. EOT. Thank you for this informative thread.
Where are the usual subjects to tell us how stupid we are for not getting these clot shots? To tell us that he was 86, who cares, dying anyway, cannot be attributed to their clot shots? Pfffft.
Oh, I agree. For the sake of the argument, I use the Leftist numbers, which illustrate the point perfectly, and doesn’t allow the Lefties to sidetrack me into an argument about the death rate.
I have done the same thing with Chinese citizens murdered by the Communists during the Cultural Revolution, using the 40-60 million murdered number.
While I think the numbers may be 120-160 million, I use the numbers not contested by anyone, because...the point remains the same.
I have been skeptical of the numbers all along. The death rate in most of these types of things is usually composed of a numerator (those who have died from an infection) divided by a denominator (total number of those who have been infected)
I don’t trust either the numerator or denominator in this case for a variety of reasons.
Dr James Neuenschwander testifies before Michigan House regarding vaccine mandates. First 1.5 minutes of video is a clip of the most important part.
“If you want to know if your vaccine stops infection, why wouldn’t you swab everyone routinely? My 10 year old neighbor had to be swabbed every week just to play little league baseball. But, Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J were not required by the FDA to do this in their study!
I will say, I did suppress a laugh reading your post when thought “Well, we finally got rid of the common cold and the Flu in my lifetime! I said it would never happen!”
Covid-19 fatality rate is very similar to historical influenza fatality rates.
And by the way, I haven't seen any similar studies about influenza, but I really suspect influenza fatalities are pretty much related to the same comorbidity as Covid-19
I don’t know how to upload an image here, but poster E. Pluribus Unum provided an explanation page given to him by Red Cross elucidating all these different potential antibodies. It is easy reading for patients from Kroger. Cross ref link, page#1, post#13
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3992129/posts
Thank you again, Grandpa Drudge.
What is the official conclusion by the authors of this study? In plain English.
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That’s exactly the question I have after wading through all those charts and verbiage. What’s the bottom line??
What is the official conclusion by the authors of this study? In plain English.
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That’s exactly the question I have after wading through all those charts and verbiage. What’s the bottom line??
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