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After-birth abortion: why should the baby live? (These people are sick!)
https://jme.bmj.com/content/39/5/261 ^

Posted on 09/02/2021 4:41:33 PM PDT by MNDude

Abortion is largely accepted even for reasons that do not have anything to do with the fetus' health. By showing that (1) both fetuses and newborns do not have the same moral status as actual persons, (2) the fact that both are potential persons is morally irrelevant and (3) adoption is not always in the best interest of actual people, the authors argue that what we call ‘after-birth abortion’ (killing a newborn) should be permissible in all the cases where abortion is, including cases where the newborn is not disabled.

The moral status of an infant is equivalent to that of a fetus, that is, neither can be considered a ‘person’ in a morally relevant sense.

It is not possible to damage a newborn by preventing her from developing the potentiality to become a person in the morally relevant sense.

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The fetus and the newborn are potential persons Although fetuses and newborns are not persons, they are potential persons because they can develop, thanks to their own biological mechanisms, those properties which will make them ‘persons’ in the sense of ‘subjects of a moral right to life’: that is, the point at which they will be able to make aims and appreciate their own life ... If criteria such as the costs (social, psychological, economic) for the potential parents are good enough reasons for having an abortion even when the fetus is healthy, if the moral status of the newborn is the same as that of the foetus and if neither has any moral value by virtue of being a potential person, then the same reasons which justify abortion should also justify the killing of the potential person when it is at the stage of a newborn.

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1 posted on 09/02/2021 4:41:33 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: MNDude

Forgot to include link, journal of medical ethics.

https://jme.bmj.com/content/39/5/261


2 posted on 09/02/2021 4:44:14 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: MNDude

Biden voters. Why should they live?


3 posted on 09/02/2021 4:45:15 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: gundog

If they were Biden voters why would the left not want them to be born and then grow up and vote?


4 posted on 09/02/2021 4:46:19 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: MNDude

5 posted on 09/02/2021 4:46:54 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: MNDude

On the plus side: The United States has replaced all other nations or regimes in all of human history as the leader in mass genocide...

Sure makes an american proud... Americans are the greatest butchers in the directly known universe...


6 posted on 09/02/2021 4:47:36 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: MNDude

Is murder still a crime in this country?


7 posted on 09/02/2021 4:57:10 PM PDT by stevem
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To: MNDude

Newborn babies are dehumanized by the same people who dehumanize preborn babies.

The key mechanism for doing so is dehumanizing the biological fathers of the babies by portraying them as incompetent or deserters by default.

That portrayal paves the way for portraying the mothers of the babies as the only real parent in practice, as the owners of the babies, which in turn results in the babies being treated as the property of the mothers to be disposed of based on the mother’s decision.

That is the foundation of the Woman’s Right to Choose (to kill the couple’s baby) ideology.


8 posted on 09/02/2021 4:57:36 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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To: SuperLuminal

I finally found the quote I tried to remember about the living baby now outside the womb: The Atlantic,Feb.4, 2019 on Gov. Northam——
“Northam appeared to suggest that it would permit a physician to deny medical care to a newborn infant: “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

This has to be sick, sick stuff. But other articles below it said “Can the Religious Right get any crazier” than to oppose this!


9 posted on 09/02/2021 4:59:32 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: MNDude

why should the baby live? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Because the Good Lord will strike you down and you will rot in hell for ever.


10 posted on 09/02/2021 5:01:21 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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Who’s freakin’ medical ethics???

Dr. Mengele???


11 posted on 09/02/2021 5:02:35 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! ("You, the American people, are my only special interest." --President Donald J. Trump)
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To: Candor7
Because the Good Lord will strike you down and you will rot in hell for ever.

C'mon! Give me a good reason!

12 posted on 09/02/2021 5:05:24 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: MNDude

Killing babies is love.


13 posted on 09/02/2021 5:05:35 PM PDT by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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To: MNDude

Our government is made up of people that are convinced that the world is overpopulated but

they are unwilling to volunteer for the trip themselves, they have no concern for others so

there is nothing left to discuss.

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14 posted on 09/02/2021 5:05:45 PM PDT by infool7 (When you have the Lord, nothing else is important and everything is fascinating! )
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To: frank ballenger

“Northam appeared to suggest that it would permit a physician to deny medical care to a newborn infant: “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

And that f*r is governor.


15 posted on 09/02/2021 5:06:14 PM PDT by Flick Lives (We may or may not have reached herd immunity, but we've definitely achieved herd stupidity.)
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To: MNDude

OK, maybe Texas should make it a felony to distribute this alleged journal of medical ethics in Texas, like child pornography. And then make infant murder a mandatory capital offense.


16 posted on 09/02/2021 5:07:43 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: al baby
I didn’t mean the babies. I meant adult Biden voters. Babies can’t vote.

But, let’s run the numbers. If they live to 18, half might bote Republican. The dead all vote Democrat.

17 posted on 09/02/2021 5:08:35 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: MNDude

I would challenge these barbarians to notice just how soon a woman who is happy about her pregnancy starts calling that person growing inside of her as “her baby”.


18 posted on 09/02/2021 5:08:43 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (FI miss out mean tweeting, man spreading, room owning President)
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To: gundog
Now, there's a question that deserves more consideration.
19 posted on 09/02/2021 5:10:24 PM PDT by LIConFem (Read up on Russia's Oct, 1917 Revolution... And prepare.)
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To: MNDude
Was the author of this a member of the Khmer Rouge?
20 posted on 09/02/2021 5:14:42 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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