and the 35-page preproof here:
scrollable pdf here
Unlike antibodies, T-cells were shown to be robust regardless of age (see line 299 to end of paragraph in the pre-proof)
Penn State.
The same joint that employs Michael Mann.
Snort.
I’m not getting something here. If that’s true, why are there so many breakthrough infections?
Natural immunity is durable and robust.
The vax is failing and Pfizer is under 40% effectiveness.
Look at Israel. The vaxed are stacking up at the hospitals and dying.
This study can not apply to the vax. T-cell immunity is durable for natural immunity.
This study is suspect.
47 people doesn’t really seem like a good study
Cytokine storms and T cell counts may offer clues on how to treat COVID-19
MARCH 2020
Inflammatory immune response can cause T cells to become depleted, affecting patient outcomes in coronavirus cases and leaving them prone to secondary infection
https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/737027
Cytokine storms may affect the severity of COVID-19 cases by lowering T cell counts, according to a new study published in Frontiers in Immunology. Researchers studying coronavirus cases in China found that sick patients had a significantly low number of T cells, a type of white blood cell that plays a crucial role in immune response, and that T cell counts were negatively correlated with case severity.
Interestingly, they also found a high concentration of cytokines, a protein that normally helps fight off infection. Too many cytokines can trigger an excessive inflammatory response known as a cytokine storm, which causes the proteins to attack healthy cells. The study suggests that coronavirus does not attack T cells directly, but rather triggers the cytokine release, which then drives the depletion and exhaustion of T cells.
If thats the case then why the need for booster? They plan to give everyone boosters this fall regardless of when they got their initial dose(s), most getting it with their flu shot. And they are planning to push the seasonal swine flu shot this year harder than ever before, even more than 2009.
The results also showed that the T-cell response in the weeks after mRNA vaccination includes T-cell types normally elicited by natural infectionāand in general, natural viral infection is known to be capable of inducing T-cell protection that lasts years and even decades.
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And yet the employer vaccine mandates typically make zero provision for natural immunity induced by previous infection. And the CDC remains mum on the topic if not dismissive.
Itās still people I donāt trust wanting me to do stuff.
I am not getting a ‘vaccine’ for something that is 99.8 percent survivable, IF i go outside, and IF i go somewhere that has people, and IF one of those people are infected and IF they are symptomatic and IF I catch it and IF I get symptomatic.
Two takeaways from this article:
1. Prior COVID-19 donāt need the vaccine. Study says people who had Covid-19 already have good T-cell antibody levels. (Vaccine boosted is āsomewhatā.)
2. Further study needed: Why are the vaccine T-cells not providing protection against breakthrough infection?
Since I have developed a strong distrust of what is being taught in all schools anymore, I think I trust the other source even more.
So T Cells based on the spike protein which has already mutated so many times it is threatening to go beyond the Greek alphabet and require Chinese characters for classification?
Alrighty then.
Boars have teats don’t they?
Does wipe out the booster shot theory though. A booster for something you have T Cells for...
25+ protein Covid recognizing natural immunity T Cells may be a teensy tiny itsy bitsy bit better.
“By contrast, in the prior-COVID-19 group, helper and killer T cells specific for the COVID-19 coronavirus were already substantially present before the first dose. After that first dose, T cell numbers rose somewhat, but did not significantly increase after the second dose.”
Iāve been in medicine for a long time. Never heard of āPenn Medicineā
So...what they’re saying is that the body’s own self-defense system is triggered by the injection of this foreign substance.
Cool.
Now do having had covid already.
Thanks for posting this. It is encouraging news. I’m not scrolling down to see other comments as the visceral negative reaction of many Freepers to facts and data about COVID has become tedious.