Posted on 08/22/2021 5:58:40 AM PDT by blueplum
PHILADELPHIA—Messenger-RNA (mRNA) vaccines against the coronavirus that causes COVID-19 provoke a swift and strong response by the immune system’s T cells—the heavy armor of the immune system—according to a study from researchers in the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania. Although recent studies of vaccines tend to focus on the antibody response, the T-cell response is also an important and potentially more durable source of protection—yet little has been reported so far on the T-cell response to COVID-19 vaccines.
In the new study, which appears in the journal Immunity, the Penn Medicine researchers analyzed the T-cell responses in 47 healthy people who received two doses of the Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech mRNA vaccines.
(Excerpt) Read more at pennmedicine.org ...
and the 35-page preproof here:
scrollable pdf here
Unlike antibodies, T-cells were shown to be robust regardless of age (see line 299 to end of paragraph in the pre-proof)
Penn State.
The same joint that employs Michael Mann.
Snort.
I’m not getting something here. If that’s true, why are there so many breakthrough infections?
Consider the source.
Natural immunity is durable and robust.
The vax is failing and Pfizer is under 40% effectiveness.
Look at Israel. The vaxed are stacking up at the hospitals and dying.
This study can not apply to the vax. T-cell immunity is durable for natural immunity.
This study is suspect.
Come on, that’s intellectually lazy. Have you even read the research?
Actually this is from Penn University (Ivy League), not Penn State
47 people isn’t a low sample; it’s an insignificant sample.
The question is why would they publish t? Propaganda.
Come on, read teh articles? You know that usually isn’t done around here.
Penn got $258 million in foreign money, and there may be more it hadn’t disclosed
47 people doesn’t really seem like a good study
Cytokine storms and T cell counts may offer clues on how to treat COVID-19
MARCH 2020
Inflammatory immune response can cause T cells to become depleted, affecting patient outcomes in coronavirus cases and leaving them prone to secondary infection
https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/737027
Cytokine storms may affect the severity of COVID-19 cases by lowering T cell counts, according to a new study published in Frontiers in Immunology. Researchers studying coronavirus cases in China found that sick patients had a significantly low number of T cells, a type of white blood cell that plays a crucial role in immune response, and that T cell counts were negatively correlated with case severity.
Interestingly, they also found a high concentration of cytokines, a protein that normally helps fight off infection. Too many cytokines can trigger an excessive inflammatory response known as a cytokine storm, which causes the proteins to attack healthy cells. The study suggests that coronavirus does not attack T cells directly, but rather triggers the cytokine release, which then drives the depletion and exhaustion of T cells.
Reading is a bit of an issue with me this morning. Eye problems.
But keep reading.
Penn is no better.
I ALWAYS consider the source.
If thats the case then why the need for booster? They plan to give everyone boosters this fall regardless of when they got their initial dose(s), most getting it with their flu shot. And they are planning to push the seasonal swine flu shot this year harder than ever before, even more than 2009.
The results also showed that the T-cell response in the weeks after mRNA vaccination includes T-cell types normally elicited by natural infection—and in general, natural viral infection is known to be capable of inducing T-cell protection that lasts years and even decades.
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And yet the employer vaccine mandates typically make zero provision for natural immunity induced by previous infection. And the CDC remains mum on the topic if not dismissive.
Penn mentioned.
I’m going to guess it’s because t-cells are only part of the immune equation? If antibody production is hampered by age or frailness, the immune system will have an overall harder time, like trying to run with a sprained ankle, than if everything is working at the same level? Just guessing, tho.
Something else to keep in mind...
There are plenty of American companies and universities that had boots on the ground in Wuhan in late 2019 and early 2020...
Nobody saw anything...?
Nobody said anything...?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Summary of study does not say if there was a control group or whether those studied were controlled by social class. Without control group it is likely T cells are produced without the Vax. And if the study was done of people who do not smoke, drink alcohol or are diabetic, it is useless. Blood sugar and insulin is a wild card that can change the body response to anything. I wonder who paid for the study?
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