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Climate Scientists Admit Exaggerated Warming
American Thinker ^ | 12 Aug, 2021 | Vijay Jayaraj and E. Calvin Beisner

Posted on 08/12/2021 3:31:48 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Far too many scientists have been afraid to test climate doomsday narratives.

Last week, a group of scientists sent shock waves through the climate-science community. They boldly pointed out that current climate models exaggerate greenhouse warming.

In other words, they confirmed what climate skeptics have been arguing all along: that most computer climate models forecast unrealistic warming -- warming not observed anywhere in the real world.

Could this be a turning point for climate science? Has the hitherto staunch resistance to any kind of scrutiny regarding the dangerous warming narrative come to an end?

Scientific Method

Science is not a body of facts. It is a method of finding facts -- a method that is inherently skeptical. Not cynically skeptical, but humbly skeptical. It insists, as the motto of the Royal Society, nullius in verba, roughly translated “take nobody’s word for it,”

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Today, climate science finds itself in turmoil. Theories of catastrophic global warming driven by carbon dioxide emissions have long escaped careful scrutiny -- just as the theories of acid-caused ulcers and stable continents long did.

Climate Scientists: Yes, the Models are Wrong

Some climate scientists, like Roy W. Spencer and Judith Curry, point out that many warming theories depend on computer models that are badly flawed.

If the empirical, observational evidence -- which Nobel Prize-winning physicist Richard Feynman called “the key to science” -- doesn’t keep these theories standing, what does? It appears that it’s the veneer of authority embodied in the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: antarctic; antarctica; communism; ecoterrorism; ecoterrorists; globalwarminghoax; greenland; greennewdeal; science
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1 posted on 08/12/2021 3:31:48 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber
The "solution" is always the THING. Find a means to gain control of the use of energy and therefore the means of production.
2 posted on 08/12/2021 3:31:59 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

> current climate models exaggerate greenhouse warming.

Whaaaaaat? Shocking! No one even suspected it... except for every rational person that sees yet another doomsday pass every few years.


3 posted on 08/12/2021 3:39:12 AM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (Socialism requires slavery.)
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To: MtnClimber
...current climate models exaggerate greenhouse warming.

Hussein agrees.


4 posted on 08/12/2021 3:41:49 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: MtnClimber
Common sense says that man did not succeed in changing the climate OF THE UNIVERSE in a couple hundred years; causing volcanoes to erupt, forests to burn, storms to rage, oceans to rise.

All those same events have occurred millions of times over the course of years.

Climate is what it is. Man is miniscule when added to the picture.

And at the same time, man has been creative in making a world to support the masses. Some regions have done better..some have done worse...but our work continues.

5 posted on 08/12/2021 3:46:06 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: MtnClimber
carbon dioxide emissions

75% of the current 415 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere comes from nature......

6 posted on 08/12/2021 3:53:19 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Without potatoes, life has no meaning......)
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To: MtnClimber

expect climate lockdowns nonetheless:

11 Aug: Bitchute: 11m: Computing Forever: LOCKDOWN SEASON: CLIMATE CHANGE, AUSTRALIA AND HOPE
https://www.bitchute.com/video/11dyu3v4uIfE/


7 posted on 08/12/2021 3:53:32 AM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: Libloather

Hussein......ManBearPig.....All the Hollywood Hypocrites....Prince Hypocrite....John Kerry....you know all these people don’t believe a word they’re saying. All you need do is look at their oceanfront mansions and yachts and private jets and limos to see they don’t give a damn about their carbon emissions. If they did, they wouldn’t live as they do.

Its all about exerting control over others.


8 posted on 08/12/2021 3:57:02 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Libloather

There was more ‘hot’ Co2 immitted in that tent in one night, than all the volcanos that erupted this year.


9 posted on 08/12/2021 3:59:31 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

And, once again for all of the “progressives” on drugs:

CO2 is plant food. Without it we DIE.


10 posted on 08/12/2021 4:00:07 AM PDT by Shady (Prince Andrew is the Prince no more...And who killed Ashli Babbitt? )
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To: MtnClimber

Take a good look at this graph.

Notice the left hand side- the temperature scale is +/- ONE DEGREE Celsius.

Think about that- ONE DEGREE. Do you think they are able to accurately show the global temperature hundreds of years ago (thousands, actually) to WITHIN A FRACTION OF ONE DEGREE?

Based on TREE RINGS?

There is a basic, fundamental, unwavering scientific principle that you cannot predict anything to an accuracy greater than your measuring device.

They think (actually I am pretty sure they are counting on it) that a science-y looking graph with actual numbers and decimal points will make dumb people and liberals (but I repeat myself) go “Hmmm that’s sure scary - let’s throw trillions of dollars at this”

But they can be certain of that result- that every solution to every problem is more government money.


11 posted on 08/12/2021 4:57:12 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: Mr. K

I should have said ‘measure’ anything rather than ‘predict’ anything... but the point still remains


12 posted on 08/12/2021 5:01:37 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: MtnClimber

“Could this be a turning point for climate science?”

The author is kidding, right? These scientists will be fired, cancelled, de-platformed, shunned and spit on. Maybe worse...if they visit Marcy Park. They’ll be lucky to get jobs sliding French fries into little cardboard sleeves at the local McDonald’s.

Their lives are over.


13 posted on 08/12/2021 5:13:57 AM PDT by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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To: MtnClimber

Funny how there is no “Policy” step in The Scientific Method.

That glaring step likely confuses eager sociology, civil engineering, business, environmental “science”, and economics students at cushy universities.

The average man on the street, soccer mom or young, sweaty Antifa mob partier or white, spoiled, upscale, female or soy-built progressive suburbanite, BLM, SJW would not ponder this as it generally would provoke troubling headaches.

In fact, as soon as researchers hint at or strongly recommend solutions to societal or individual problems, it ceases- violently, to be Science.

I’m talking to you Fauci. To the UN’s International Panel on Climate Change. To smarmy governors who blurt Just “Following the Science” when faced with obvious evidence of their Totalitarian actions that shock humanity.

Don’t let anyone in speech, writing or media get away with one of the Biggest Lies of the last century. Science requires - relentless - skepticism or it can’t work and we end up with woeful decisions like

- forcing active Covid patients into Senior Care facilities while Quarantining the healthy and productive.
- abandoning all reason in transforming elections into sporting events controlled by wealthy, psychotic, zealots who use pandemics as excuses for well known, worst practices in voting.
- abandoning real, hard, biologically based scientific understanding to force tragic, sexually deviant fantasies into mainstream dogma and into our children’s souls.
- Critical Race Theory, another militant, hateful, and racist ideology targeting society as a whole to tear down the most successful nations in history and keep minorities on their sociopolitical plantations while generating billions for their masters.

The list is endless. Eggs will kill you. Trans fats like margarine are smart and healthy. Carbon dioxide - which feeds all plant life and hence all life, is a dangerous pollution.

Small towns with traditional values are toxic legacies of ignorant, obsolete ages but jamming poor, desparate populations into cement, steel, neon, and glass cages where family’s are dissolved and diseases and crime are rampant are saluted as Smart Cities.

Personal transportation is no longer needed as is the freedom of choice as to when, how and to where travel is permitted. Religion is ignorance while soul-destroying perversion is tolerated and celebrated. The internet as it exists today.

All of these evils can be founded on the literally ignorant and arrogant policies of champions of a “science” where attacking a flawed hypothesis or challenging dodgy, incomplete, illogical, or nonexistent experimental results is banned from social media, any media eventually and banned from thought when possible.

Is Scientific method perfect? No, but it’s just logic and not accepting positions unless they cannot be shown false after continuous, intense and creative scrutiny and may still be overturned in future inquiries.

Maybe the standard Scientific Method approach could add a final step after sharing results (Wuhan, CDC/WHO) - to determine Cui Bono, who benefits, or maybe more simply “Follow the Money” regarding potential policies derived from actual Science, properly performed.


14 posted on 08/12/2021 5:37:06 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (He, had the best mom - ever.)
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To: epluribus_2

Your post #14 is excellent!


15 posted on 08/12/2021 6:25:21 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: MtnClimber

All of the models, way back to global cooling predictions of decades ago; have been systematically tweaked to fit data. Not confirmed against half the data to prove the formulae, and then tested against the other half to prove. No, all data is consumed (or ignored) and then the model is still tweaked to continually fit new measurements.
This is corrupt science. None of these people belong in any org doing research on anything.
I’ve done research. If I tried any of this I’d have been thrown out.


16 posted on 08/12/2021 6:52:08 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: MtnClimber

Doesn’t matter the Democrats will drown them in money anyway


17 posted on 08/12/2021 7:04:01 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: epluribus_2
one of the Biggest Lies of the last century

Politics is the art of telling the big lies, which is why most politicians are trained lawyers. In their eyes, they are just highly compensated professionals representing a slimy client, typically Democrat Double-O One, aka Satan Claus.

Science is the art of finding truth, education the art of teaching truth, medicine the art of health, engineering the art of practical design. Big lie telling is completely incompatible with the others, although is compatible with Democrat-dominated arts such as Hollywood and advertising.

The hobby of politics is pointing out the big lies. It's remarkable how many people hate politicians, but don't know exactly why. If only the fancy word politician could be replaced by the term professional liar.

18 posted on 08/12/2021 8:09:23 AM PDT by Reeses (Defund the FIB)
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To: MtnClimber

Consider that CO2 in our atmosphere is a TRACE gas at roughly 600 parts per million. I find difficult to believe that our entire planet’s climate hinges on parts per million changes in a single trace gas. Certainly there are other factors influencing our climate most notably the varying output of the sun, deep ocean currents and even the wobble in the tilt of the earth’s axis that gives us seasonal temperature changes. However to the climate alarmists these factors are outweighed by part per million changes in a single trace gas. It is worth noting that this greenhouse gas theory cannot explain why in relatively recent geological times the northern hemisphere was covered with glaciers a mile thick and that subsequent warming melted these glaciers.


19 posted on 08/12/2021 8:19:03 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Reeses

Well said.


20 posted on 08/13/2021 4:59:15 PM PDT by epluribus_2 (He, had the best mom - ever.)
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