Your Vaccinated Immune System Is Ready for Breakthroughs

The Atlantic ^ | 27 Jul 2021 | Katherine J. Lu

[blueplum]

Coronavirus infections are happening among vaccinated people. They’re going to keep happening as long as the virus is with us, and we’re nowhere close to beating it. When a virus has so thoroughly infiltrated the human population, post-vaccination infections become an arithmetic inevitability. As much as we’d like to think otherwise, being vaccinated does not mean being done with SARS-CoV-2.

Post-vaccination infections, or breakthroughs, might occasionally turn symptomatic, but they aren’t shameful or aberrant. They also aren’t proof that the shots are failing. These cases are, on average, gentler and less symptomatic; faster-resolving, with less virus lingering—and, it appears, less likely to pass the pathogen on. ...

...To understand the anatomy of a breakthrough case, it’s helpful to think of the human body as a castle....

...Without vaccination, the castle’s defenders have no idea an attack is coming....Vaccination completely rewrites the beginning, middle, and end of this story. COVID-19 shots act as confidential informants, who pass around intel on the pathogen within the castle walls. With that info, defensive cells can patrol the building’s borders...When the virus attempts to force its way in, it will hit “backup layer after backup layer” of defense, Bhattacharya told me.

Prepped by a vaccine, immune reinforcements will be marshaled to the fore much faster—within days of an invasion, sometimes much less....

.... our shots shouldn’t be faulted for failing to live up to an impossible standard—one that obscures what they are able to accomplish. A breached stronghold is not necessarily a defeated stronghold; any castle that arms itself in advance will be in a better position than it was before.

[greeneyes]

🙏Me too.

[roving]

So a few million die a slow death a few yrs down the road because they put poison in their arm thinking it would prevent them from catching the virus. No biggie

[Amendment10]

People have evidently forgotten the main CV19 goal in first part of 2020 which was to "flatten the curve" so that limited medical services aren't overwhelmed with CV19 victims.

In fact, Dr. Fauci had indicated that the goal of the first experimental "vaccines" (my wording) is to help keep people from needing medical services if or when they got infected.

Fauci: vaccine only prevents symptoms, doesn’t block the virus (10.26.20)

People have also evidently forgotten that Sweden didn't implement strict quarantine rules so that Swedes would get "immunized" through herd immunity, Sweden recently reporting consecutive days of 0 (zero) CV19-related deaths.

Daily COVID Deaths in Sweden Hit Zero, as Other Nations Brace for More Lockdowns (7.22.21)

In fact, Professor Sucharit Bhakdi is claiming that most of us should now be immune to CV19 through natural “herd” immunity.

• Professor Sucharit Bhakdi: We already have antibody memory immunity to COVID19, 99% of us immune. Vaccination is unnecessary & re-vaccination potentially life threatening. (7.9.21)

• Despite Fauci’s assertions, Israeli data indicate natural immunity 6x greater than achieved from the jab (7.15.21)

The people still having problems with CV19 may be obese, have vitamin D deficiency or other morbidities in my non-medical opinion.

• Studies: Obesity perhaps the most important risk factor for COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths [By Far!] (5.1.21)

• Our greatest weapon against the coronavirus is Vitamin D: Board-certified pathologist (3.29.21, probably no lucrative government contracts to be made from making vitamin D3 imo.)

• COVID-19: Fauci says he takes vitamin D and C supplements to reduce his 'susceptibility to infection' (9.13.20)

Finally, are desperate Democrats and RINOs pushing the vaccines to help Big Pharma follow the money?

With Feds Taxpayers' Help, Moderna Forecasts Record Revenue of $19.2B (7.10.21)

Corrections, insights welcome.

[greeneyes]

This jives with info I’ve been reading. Some of it is in post #60. Data on T cells and Vit. D.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3979774/posts?page=60#60

[blueplum]

Wht the article emphasizes is, we aren’t clones. For example, elderly have 10-25% less vaccination side effects than younger folk (fever, sore arm, tired, etc)

As for dying in 3 years? lol - that’s like AOC saying we’re going to die in 10 years from global warming or the climateaddicted claiming in 50 years the earth would be uninhabitable because ...cows. Totally unprovable claims because they haven’t happened yet. This 3 year thing started out with one year, then two, first it was reinfection by virus, then ‘the vaccine’. It’s had so many revisions it’s a joke.

Currently, over 2 million people have been hospitalized, almost all unprotected, with a median of 16% mortality in ICU. Of those discharged to SNFs, August 2020 numbers say about 10% will be rehospitalized within 30 days (7% of those discharged home). Because readmissions prognosis is poor, a percentage will die within a year. From covid, not from vaccines.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6945e2.htm

Compare that to the numbers related to the vaccine specifically:
Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) clots with low platelets - 39 confirmed out of 13 million J&J doses (july, 2021) women under 50 (Moderna: 2 out of 324 million)
Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS) J&J: 100, men over 50
Myocarditis and pericarditis (Pf and Moderna) : 674, men under 30
Total deaths: 6,207 under investigation, possible TTS

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

On the other hand, the elderly people and youth who have inherently poor immune systems and who have been vaccinated, those our society wants most to protect, are not dying, or even being hospitalized with severe disease anywhere near the rates prevaccine even with a stronger virus circulating. Isn’t that what we set out to do?

[ransomnote]

a refreshing breath of sanity for a change

~~~~
If only it weren't a toxic brew of biowarfare propaganda, I might agree with you

Post-vaccination infections, or breakthroughs, might occasionally turn symptomatic, but they aren’t shameful or aberrant. They also aren’t proof that the shots are failing. These cases are, on average, gentler and less symptomatic; faster-resolving, with less virus lingering—and, it appears, less likely to pass the pathogen on. ...

Actually, this tragically false. The vaccinated are becoming ill more "quietly" at first, so they don't know to stay home and they go around spreading the illness. It's making those who are vaccinated "super spreaders".

Worse still, since the illness in the vaccinated starts 'too quietly", they don't know they need to start medications. Days go by as their illness deepens before they realize they are ill so it's not possible for them to get the most effective, early treatment. That's why they almost seem like the medications aren't helping or aren't effective - it's now given later in their illness than needed because of this 'quiet start.'

[blueplum]

Here’s a Rhode Island hospital study on readmissions (6.8% within 5 days). It’s a bit more recent - April 2021 than the August ‘20 study:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32894801/

and another on NYC readmissions (rates of intensive care and death were 5.8% and 3.6%, respectively.)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32815060/

[ransomnote]

I will get my vaccination as soon as the vaccine gets full FDA approval.

10 posted on 7/27/2021, 6:41:39 PM by zeestephen

~~~~~~~

 

Careful, FRen. They are saying they are going to re-lable the product "FDA" approved in order to mandate it. 

 

It would still be the same toxic brew, but they are tired of asking nicely so if they just change the EUA to full approval, they can mandate it for all Americans.

One of the vax pushers bragged about that a few months ago.They told me not to get ahead of myself because the FDA will approve it in a few months and "there goes your excuse not to take it."

 

The FDA is as weaponized as the CDC. They'd label the 'vaccine' chocolate ice cream or "Shirly", if that's what it takes. 

 

Apparently China is getting impatient with implementation.

I will get my vaccination as soon as the vaccine gets full FDA approval.

[ransomnote]

our shots shouldn’t be faulted for failing to live up to an impossible standard—one that obscures what they are able to accomplish. A breached stronghold is not necessarily a defeated stronghold; any castle that arms itself in advance will be in a better position than it was before.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Death, seizures, convulsions, heart attacks should not result from 'vaccination' of any kind.

THey seem to be simpering that to make an omlet, you have to break a few eggs.

Two videos showing people struggling with convulsions, paralysis after injection. Please explain no one is at fault for devastating life long harm...to the survivors.

Warning - the contents of the videos include examples of vaccine harm which are graphic and disturbing.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/B2tRCeEBLQQX/

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3978343/posts?page=1937#1937

[blueplum]

by your logic, asymptomatics were ‘becoming ill more quietly’ and risking their lives by delaying treatment.

Are you changing your position that asymptomatics were never a danger, were not sick and were not contageous and didn’t need masks?

As to ‘more medications’. India has reported that Delta is requiring higher dosing of ‘medications’ and they aren’t working as well as they did against the original wuhan version. That is a big problem, Houston. Especially for those who expect hospitals to replace vaccinations. Otoh, the vaccines designed for Wuhan Original Recipe seem to be holding their own with Delta, at least in adverting severe disease and death, try as it might to escape antibody and vaccine neutralization.

[ransomnote]

by your logic, asymptomatics were ‘becoming ill more quietly’ and risking their lives by delaying treatment.

Are you changing your position that asymptomatics were never a danger, were not sick and were not contageous and didn’t need masks?

The asymptomatics used to fuel the pandemic were not sick and were not a risk. There are now instances of sick vaccinated who don't realize they are sick - recently a story about how one 'fully vaccinated' man made the social rounds and is accused of infecting 60 other people. This property is specific to the vaccinated (it's a feature, not a bug) and puts them at risk of starting treatment later than needed.

The vaccinated essentially have a longer silent onset. The unvaccinated who end up becoming ill typically become symptomatic in time to limit spread and obtain medications. The vaccinated do not- many at least have this delayed visibility, which is an excellent property for a biowarfare agent.

As to ‘more medications’. India has reported that Delta is requiring higher dosing of ‘medications’ and they aren’t working as well as they did against the original wuhan version. That is a big problem, Houston. Especially for those who expect hospitals to replace vaccinations. Otoh, the vaccines designed for Wuhan Original Recipe seem to be holding their own with Delta, at least in adverting severe disease and death, try as it might to escape antibody and vaccine neutralization.

False. The reason medications appear to work less with the imaginary 'delta variant' is due to the impact of the vaccine delaying visible signs which trigger treatment. Covid responds much better to any intervention if caught early. The vaccinated don't have the same warning to start getting treatment - they are starting it later and responding poorly to treatment as a result.

[blueplum]

Everything in the world should be 100% risk free

It’s not.

The Good Lord didn’t make life that way. Life is risk versus reward. Every single decision.

I hate that people get bad side effects, whether it’s from the virus or from the vaccine. 600,000 unprotected Americans have died miserable deaths, many of them holding onto hope from drug after drug that didn’t pan out as infectious disease doctors threw the kitchen sink the virus, trying to stop the death. Those were the eggs broken. Those lives and the lives of over 3,000 medical staff. Those were the lives that bought us time, to find drugs that might work, vaccines that could and do work and time for us to squabble over what folk remedies to use before we ran to the hospital screaming, ‘help!’.

It sucks and it tears at our heart strings to hear about people with the rare side effect to a vaccine 600,000 lives purchased.

But one has to ask, not on a personal basis or human basis, but on a purely genetic level, if those symptoms are from 5ccs of a vaccine what scale of damage would be done on the same system by trillions of copies of a live virus?

[blueplum]

‘imaginary Delta”:

B.1.617.2 (Delta): This variant was first detected in the United States in March 2021 and became dominant in May 2021, followed by 96% dominant in the UK by July. It’s estimated that 90% of Russian cases since June 2021 are Delta. It was initially identified in India in December 2020. - two key spike protein mutations — T478K and L452R — that allow it to infect cells more easily and evade the body’s immune response. the L452R mutation is thought to make Delta and Epsilon more infectious and resilient against vaccination. Delta has 20 unique mutations, one of which amplifies a mutation first seen in Beta that increases replication rate leading to much higher viral loads in a shorter period of time. It’s been said in India and Russia that Delta is more resistant to drugs used in hospital and larger doses are needed than for previous variants. All western nations are reporting that antibody protection against Delta is less than that of the original strain across the board - uninfected, reinfected, currently infected, cross-infected, and partly vaccinated with the best protection shown in those fully vaccinated.

[zeestephen]

Re: "Akshually"

I was trying to keep it simple.

In the case of approved vaccines, you cannot formally sue the federal government. You petition a special federal court for compensation from a special fund.

If the federal court denies your petition, you may then formally sue the pharma, or the doctor who urged you to get the shot, or the clinic that gave you the shot.

Grounds for suing the pharma are usually based on damaging research or testing that they concealed from the public.

Grounds for suing a doctor, or a clinic, or your employer, are usually based on the fact that they should have informed you about publicly available information of potential harm from the vaccine.

[ransomnote]

blueplum wrote: Everything in the world should be 100% risk free

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You have to be joking or trolling, which is it?

Wait. Don't tell me. I know.

In 30 years, the world has never seen the impacts like that of the Covid 19 weaponized vaccines. Yearly, a few hundred deaths for 500 million vaccines. Covid 19 'vaccines' are off the charts just for deaths. It's destroying quality of life far and wide with suffering and debility.

Mortality (openvaers.com)

blueplum wrote: 600,000 unprotected Americans have died miserable deaths, many of them holding onto hope from drug after drug that didn’t pan out as infectious disease doctors threw the kitchen sink the virus, trying to stop the death.

Oh. I see. You're lying. You have to be. YOu have to know just how hard the CDC and Fauci/NIH/FDA all worked together to deny sick people treatment until they being placed on ventilators with such aggressive pressure that it further damaged their lungs contrubuting to a slow, suffering death.

The PCR test does not identify the Covid virus or the illness and had a 97% or greater false positive rate, and an unknown false negative rate, likely just as large. This ensured people with the flu or pneumonia were misdiagnosed and denied all treatment.

Even the CDC has admitted in May that only 5% of the 600K died from what the PCR said was "Covid" as their only diagnoses. The other 95% died of an average of 4 co-morbidities (hint: they died of other things)

blueplum wrote: Those were the eggs broken. 

Correction. Those were victims of the biowarfare early phases wherein sick people were forced into nursing homes, effective medications were delayed and denied, WHO recommended levels of 'ventilator' pressure further damaged disease lungs.

blueplum wrote: Those were the lives that bought us time, to find drugs that might work, 

We had safe effective drugs in use for decades from before the plandemic - sickening how you people pretend you don't know that entire countries are seeing oustanding improvement with those decades old drugs.

blueplum wrote: ... time for us to squabble over what folk remedies to use before we ran to the hospital screaming, ‘help!’.

Careful - your mask is slipping and malevolence is glaring out of it.

blueplum wrote: It sucks and it tears at our heart strings to hear about people with the rare side effect to a vaccine 600,000 lives purchased.

The manipulation of public healthcare policy and lies of the captured medical establishments across the globe has killed many people. The deaths falsely claimed to result from Covid are casualties of biowarfare that smiles while talking down to people. The deaths you cite did not purchase the more toxic version of Covid-19 renamed 'vaccine' and delivered via needle.

blueplum wrote: But one has to ask, not on a personal basis or human basis, but on a purely genetic level, if those symptoms are from 5ccs of a vaccine what scale of damage would be done on the same system by trillions of copies of a live virus?

It's not the virus that causes lasting damage in the most vulnerable Covid patients, it's the spike protein. Injecting another virus, mRNA to have your own body produce trillions of toxic spike proteins which damage and kill is a macabre biowarfare attack which attacked with far more vigor, killing people of all ages at little or no risk of contracting Covid, in addition to killing the elderly/vulernable who could have otherwise been successfully treated for Covid.

[blueplum]

you’re hedging

please explain why an asymptomatic who doesn’t believe he’s sick, should be treated differently from a vaccinated who doesn’t believe he’s sick.

An asymptomatic may actually be pre-symptomatic and contageous for several days. The same thing you’re accusing vaccinated of. An asymptomatic challenged with a stronger virus or viral load may become symptomatic. Your argument isn’t valid.

Additionally another claim of asymptomatics was they had no duty to provide protection to an unvaccinated person. It was the personal responsibility of the unvaccinated person. (the old, assys telling old folks to stay home argument). Are you now saying the vaccinated old folks have a duty to provide protection for asymptomatics and the unvaccinated? Do you see the double standard yet?

For the record, I dont’ believe either are capable of spreading disease unless a someone licks an asymptomatic’s nose or the asymptomatic turns out to be a pre-symptomatic. Symptoms aren’t the only indicator of peak viral load but it’s a pretty good one. Vaccinated, for the most part, don’t let the virus get to peak viral load.

[ransomnote]

I just checked and 38% of all reports of Adverse Events published in VAERS 30 year history are for Covid vaccines delivered in the last 7 months.

That 2 out of every 5 reports, even though the CDC created a separate, private adverse events database (V-Safe) and gave users a free phone app to use it in order to hide adverse events and prevent them from being reported to VAERS.

If the lawsuit filed alleging that another 45K reports of death are currently unreported, but sitting in one of 11 databases that typically feed reports to VAERS, is even partly true, it’s likely the unreported adverse events, including death, dwarf the CDC’s reports of all adverse events reported in VAERS 30 year history, and the ‘vaccination year’ is not over yet.

[ransomnote]

Nothing you’re saying is true. I think I’ve had enough of ‘it’ for the day.

[zeestephen]

Re: "SARS-Cov-2 was not a public health crisis."

Your post has some excellent information.

However, there is one problem.

Total USA deaths from all causes increased about 40,000 per year from 2014-2019.

In 2020, the increase was 500,000 - according to the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), which is administered by the CDC.

2020 - 3.347 million

2019 - 2.846 million

If COVID-19 is not responsible for this huge increase, what is?

And, before someone says these numbers are lies, please remember that these numbers come from 50 states and are certified by 50 state medical authorities, which means you have to prove one heck of a criminal conspiracy.

[blueplum]

actually, high flow was first tried in China and replicated until American pulmonary doctors realized in a hot minute it was just pushing unexpected cell debris and virus-migrated fat deeper into the avoili and making the problem worse. We followed the evolution of this on the old CV daily thread. It took a few autopsies to discover the fat issue.

Every part of treating this novel virus has been experimental, if not A, B, if not B. until you get to Z and then start all over again. There was no protocol and barely is now. Where there is protocol, availability of staff, PPE, mechanical equipment, oxygen and ‘medications’ play a very significant roll.

Re: ‘effective medications’ -When? Jan? April? Jul? if they were ‘effective’ back then, why were people dying from massive infection/clotting/suffocation? Medicos went to black box and off-label use of some of the most potent and ‘experimental’ within 3 months. The game of touch and go hasn’t ended. If we had ‘effective medictions’ now, nobody would be dying anymore, vaccine or no. We’re still at ‘mostly effective’.

I’m not to going to rehash debunked and old worn arguments other than to remind you that only two vaccines use mRNA. But I will say the rna/dna vaccines are outperforming the Chinese ‘inactive virus’ conventional vaccine, and the Russian chimp adenovirus vaccine which is so bad they are teaming with AZ to double-shot their people.