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blueplum wrote: Everything in the world should be 100% risk free

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You have to be joking or trolling, which is it?

Wait. Don't tell me. I know.

In 30 years, the world has never seen the impacts like that of the Covid 19 weaponized vaccines. Yearly, a few hundred deaths for 500 million vaccines. Covid 19 'vaccines' are off the charts just for deaths. It's destroying quality of life far and wide with suffering and debility.

Mortality (openvaers.com)

blueplum wrote: 600,000 unprotected Americans have died miserable deaths, many of them holding onto hope from drug after drug that didn’t pan out as infectious disease doctors threw the kitchen sink the virus, trying to stop the death.

Oh. I see. You're lying. You have to be. YOu have to know just how hard the CDC and Fauci/NIH/FDA all worked together to deny sick people treatment until they being placed on ventilators with such aggressive pressure that it further damaged their lungs contrubuting to a slow, suffering death.

The PCR test does not identify the Covid virus or the illness and had a 97% or greater false positive rate, and an unknown false negative rate, likely just as large. This ensured people with the flu or pneumonia were misdiagnosed and denied all treatment.

Even the CDC has admitted in May that only 5% of the 600K died from what the PCR said was "Covid" as their only diagnoses. The other 95% died of an average of 4 co-morbidities (hint: they died of other things)

blueplum wrote: Those were the eggs broken.

Correction. Those were victims of the biowarfare early phases wherein sick people were forced into nursing homes, effective medications were delayed and denied, WHO recommended levels of 'ventilator' pressure further damaged disease lungs.

blueplum wrote: Those were the lives that bought us time, to find drugs that might work,

We had safe effective drugs in use for decades from before the plandemic - sickening how you people pretend you don't know that entire countries are seeing oustanding improvement with those decades old drugs.

blueplum wrote: ... time for us to squabble over what folk remedies to use before we ran to the hospital screaming, ‘help!’.

Careful - your mask is slipping and malevolence is glaring out of it.

blueplum wrote: It sucks and it tears at our heart strings to hear about people with the rare side effect to a vaccine 600,000 lives purchased.

The manipulation of public healthcare policy and lies of the captured medical establishments across the globe has killed many people. The deaths falsely claimed to result from Covid are casualties of biowarfare that smiles while talking down to people. The deaths you cite did not purchase the more toxic version of Covid-19 renamed 'vaccine' and delivered via needle.

blueplum wrote: But one has to ask, not on a personal basis or human basis, but on a purely genetic level, if those symptoms are from 5ccs of a vaccine what scale of damage would be done on the same system by trillions of copies of a live virus?

It's not the virus that causes lasting damage in the most vulnerable Covid patients, it's the spike protein. Injecting another virus, mRNA to have your own body produce trillions of toxic spike proteins which damage and kill is a macabre biowarfare attack which attacked with far more vigor, killing people of all ages at little or no risk of contracting Covid, in addition to killing the elderly/vulernable who could have otherwise been successfully treated for Covid.

I just checked and 38% of all reports of Adverse Events published in VAERS 30 year history are for Covid vaccines delivered in the last 7 months.

That 2 out of every 5 reports, even though the CDC created a separate, private adverse events database (V-Safe) and gave users a free phone app to use it in order to hide adverse events and prevent them from being reported to VAERS.

If the lawsuit filed alleging that another 45K reports of death are currently unreported, but sitting in one of 11 databases that typically feed reports to VAERS, is even partly true, it’s likely the unreported adverse events, including death, dwarf the CDC’s reports of all adverse events reported in VAERS 30 year history, and the ‘vaccination year’ is not over yet.

actually, high flow was first tried in China and replicated until American pulmonary doctors realized in a hot minute it was just pushing unexpected cell debris and virus-migrated fat deeper into the avoili and making the problem worse. We followed the evolution of this on the old CV daily thread. It took a few autopsies to discover the fat issue.

Every part of treating this novel virus has been experimental, if not A, B, if not B. until you get to Z and then start all over again. There was no protocol and barely is now. Where there is protocol, availability of staff, PPE, mechanical equipment, oxygen and ‘medications’ play a very significant roll.

Re: ‘effective medications’ -When? Jan? April? Jul? if they were ‘effective’ back then, why were people dying from massive infection/clotting/suffocation? Medicos went to black box and off-label use of some of the most potent and ‘experimental’ within 3 months. The game of touch and go hasn’t ended. If we had ‘effective medictions’ now, nobody would be dying anymore, vaccine or no. We’re still at ‘mostly effective’.

I’m not to going to rehash debunked and old worn arguments other than to remind you that only two vaccines use mRNA. But I will say the rna/dna vaccines are outperforming the Chinese ‘inactive virus’ conventional vaccine, and the Russian chimp adenovirus vaccine which is so bad they are teaming with AZ to double-shot their people.