Posted on 07/27/2021 6:54:10 AM PDT by tired&retired
Yesterday on Bannon's Warroom there was a Dr. speaking about experimental vaccines and how they caused Gulf War Syndrome. She even mentioned the chemical in the experimental anthrax vaccine that caused it.
I did a little research and found:
Pleaser Wiki.
"In 1998, the Clinton administration required the inoculation of all military members with the anthrax vaccine known as Anthrax Vaccine Adsorbed (AVA) and by the trade name BioThrax. In June 2001, the DoD halted vaccinations due to non-FDA approved changes in BioPort's manufacturing process."
"Over 8 million doses of BioThrax were administered to over 2 million U.S. military personnel as part of the program between March 1998 and June 2008."
"On October 15, 2001, military members filed a FDA Citizen Petition highlighting the fact that the license for AVA had never formally been finalized by the FDA in accordance with the requirements of 21 CFR § 10.30 as Docket # 01P-0471. The Petition was later utilized as the foundational basis for a Preliminary Injunction by a Federal Court to temporarily halt the program [Doe v. Rumsfeld, 297 F. Supp. 2d 119 (D.D.C. 2003)]."
"In December 2003, Judge Emmet G. Sullivan of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia ruled that the Department of Defense could not force military personnel to take the vaccine unless through a special order by the president."
"In October 2004, for about 8 days in (October 20–28), anthrax vaccinations were resumed, but then an injunction against mandatory vaccination was filed on the basis that AVA was not proven to work against inhalation anthrax. The ruling held that the mandatory program was illegal. The DoD was now required to either let the individual member choose under an informed consent policy, or allowed the president to bypass this requirement by executive order (Doe v. Rumsfeld, 341 F. Supp. 2d 1, 6 (D.D.C. 2004))"
Were the players the same then and now?
It get the argument.
But no.
No one should be allowed to force someone to have a vaccine, period
Most troops, if given the option and explained the risk, will opt for a vaccine, example small pox vaccine for Iraq 2003.
You don’t need to force folks. For those that object. Fine, but it’s on you and there are no repercussions for the organisation if you come down with it.
When I was in basic training in 1968, we were given an experimental flu vaccine that killed a bunch of servicemen. I was sick for a month, but could not go to sick call. Big Pharma and the government have an arrangement.
I came out of that place stronger, saner and felt like I could do or kill anything. In fact I went back to deploying there for years with Blackwater and their iterations.
Today, in my 50s, I MAX the Army pushups twice a week (100 reps under 2 mins) and MAX the old Marine requirements for pull-ups (21). That's in addition to out-running 20 years olds, doing full gym workouts and biking. I nearly never get sick - not even now with 2 COVID positive people in my house.
I've heard all there is to hear about Gulf War syndrome, and it's all nothing but a bunch of utter BULLSHIT.
So next time some whiney, broke-dicks (like you) decide to speak for all of us, can you just shut your fkn mouths instead?
That'd be great, thanx.
I had the anthrax shot in excess. Started the sequence, then was transferred and told I no longer needed it. Then transferred again, and they restarted me from the beginning. Ended up with 8 shots of the anthrax vaccine.
If I have had any ill effects from it, I don’t know it. Took the Trump vaccine and had no issues. OTOH, my wife got a shot for shingles and had swelling and joint pain for the next 6 months. That is why she refuses to take the Trump vaccine.
My wife was put on stains. Within weeks, she couldn’t raise her arm above her shoulder. She insisted on stopping and, over a period of YEARS, got full movement of her arms back.
I accept SOME people have bad reactions to medicines or vaccines. Hard to predict. I reject the idea that the anthrax vaccine (or the Trump vaccine) are automatically dangerous. It is just silly.
I had the anthrax shot in excess. Started the sequence, then was transferred and told I no longer needed it. Then transferred again, and they restarted me from the beginning. Ended up with 8 shots of the anthrax vaccine.
If I have had any ill effects from it, I don’t know it. Took the Trump vaccine and had no issues. OTOH, my wife got a shot for shingles and had swelling and joint pain for the next 6 months. That is why she refuses to take the Trump vaccine.
My wife was put on stains. Within weeks, she couldn’t raise her arm above her shoulder. She insisted on stopping and, over a period of YEARS, got full movement of her arms back.
I accept SOME people have bad reactions to medicines or vaccines. Hard to predict. I reject the idea that the anthrax vaccine (or the Trump vaccine) are automatically dangerous. It is just silly.
I hit post ONCE. Been getting double posts lately. No idea why. Hope it isn’t an anthrax vaccine reaction....
;>)
Nobody says brigade and division.
You ain’t nothing.
Okay, you wanna be a tw*t - so put your money, or lack of it, where your mouth is.
I'll ping the numerous FReepers here who know me in real life as a real person (been to my house, met @ FR events, Facebook etc.) over the years AND post a copy of my actual DD 214 here. I'll put up 10k... in escrow, with someone here we mutually agree with.
In return, you can back-up your doubting my service... and then tell us who you are, and pony up any money you made from the government and anywhere else over the last month. I know it's less than 10k, because you're a useless, simpering, broke-dick POS, but if it happens to be more, I'll match it.
If I don't prove, here, objectively, everything I posted you get 10k. I'll also relinquish my FR account. I won't ask you to do the same.
So, what say you, you simpering, useless, lying little c**t of a man? Am I a public liar or was I 11H-E9 with 197th Infantry Brigade (Mechanized, separate which became the 3/24) like it says on my 214?
I'd like an answer.
And prove every bit of it. But I want your money - cuz you're a sniveling trash-bag.
I’ve worked with two men like you who were super athletes and both of them got Lou Gehrig’s Disease.
Within a few months they were a shell and could hardly move.
Count your blessings rather than attack those who are down.
Karma as a teacher of humility is a bitch, and you are past your midway point on the downhill stretch.
You’re a real heeero.
On a thread about the Anthrax vaccine, you write nothing about the Anthrax vaccine.
You just tell us what a heeero you are.
You should go start a heeero thread or better yet, a troll thread.
Your inability to stay on topic belies problems for you.
Heeeero.
Fk your "karma," I'm a Christian, so I don't pay attention to that trash... or s**t-talkers I don't know. You sound like you wish you had a voodoo doll in my likeness.
I've heard all of it:
- The firepits/shitburning caused my GWS, I have chronic fatigue syndrome.
- Destroying their ammo dumps caused my GWS, I have fibro myalgia.
- The (never-existent) "chemical attacks" caused my GWS, I have IBD.
- The vaccines caused my GWS, now I have blood cancer 30 years later.
- The radiation from our HE rounds caused my GWS, now I have MS.
- My friend got Lou Gehrig's so, so you should die of "kharma" (lol).
I could go on and on. I've read it all, and then some more. No nexus has ever been established. Nobody can get their stories straight. GWS is a repulsive cottage industry full of lawyers, disability moochers and junk science "studies."
Even though I never met you, I know you (and the silly BITCH who accused me of stolen valor now accusing me of being a hero) really well.
You're the ones forever hanging off the walls at the VA (usually around the med counter) perpetually trying to up your disability percentage. You go around calling yourselves "disabled vets" when the REAL disabled vets (you know the ones who got their arms, legs, faces and dicks blown or burnt off) LAUGH at you in disgust. Most of you were backend REMFs, who never saw a single day of combat or even danger. Only 5 out of 100 actually has a real service related disability. Almost ALL became losers in life over the years.
YOU are the main reason I never show up at reunions anymore, and why I refuse to go to the VA for *anything ever* anymore. Sick of looking at welfare cows, and listening to their eternal bleating.
GWS doesn't make me sick - you do.
Too many people were exposed to too many things to include the radiation from the depleted uranium and the toxic smoke from the burning fires and the potential use of tear gas and mustard gas and nerve agents that were picked up by the vans that were out there to really say there’s one single cause. Exactly what they’ve got, I don’t know, someone I grew up with was spraying prisoners down with lindane for 12 hours a day for about 5 weeks and they did not give him anything other than a painter’s mask or like a The Mask you wear today for covid. He ended up dying from a pancreatic cancer and other people in his unit have come down with not that type of cancer but other cancers. He was an MP out of Hartford Connecticut. So I have no idea what causes what here because there’s nothing consistent other than the disorder that children have at Birth that gives them a cleft palate. when I think and I don’t remember the name for it but the Gulf War veterans first set of children after that. There is a side note, I moved that guy’s seabag after he passed away when his widow moved into another house and I don’t remember what they call it oh, was it a mycoplasma type infection? Well when I moved his gear I got one of those and they put me on I think biaxin to kill it this soon as they found out what it was. So his gear which was untouched since he came back from Iraq and sitting in the Attic of the house he lived in still contained something on it that I caught. I don’t have any permanent disability from this just I got sick. Please excuse any typos in errors because I’m using voice to recognition
Taking a shower, so keep me pinged on this.
1/27 FA MLRS, part of 41st BDE during GW1.
Knew a SGT who after he got back from GW1 couldn’t climb stairs without pulling himself up by his arms. Very weak and grossly fatigued. They boarded him out on failing PT test.
TF-U.
No one gets screwed over like that unless the Army knows it F-d up royally.
Still, nothing from you about the Anthrax vaccine on an Anthrax vaccine thread.
You are pathetic.
You want me to have a linear conversation, about a topic I absolutely hate and don’t believe in - with someone who just accused me of stolen valor... and you’re serious.
Next time you’re at the VA, tell them you’ve gone full-retard. Maybe they’ll up your disability another 5%.
Did you have the Anthrax vaccine?
I mean, between all your heeero stuff.
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