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Texas, Oklahoma and the SEC Expansion Talk That Could Reshape College Sports
Sports Illustrated ^ | Pat Forde

Posted on 07/22/2021 8:52:42 AM PDT by C19fan

During a conversation in May, one of the people I respect and trust most in college athletics dropped this on me, unsolicited: “Keep an eye on Texas and Oklahoma.” The person suspected that the two traditional power programs in the Big 12 were again getting the wandering eye, a decade after nearly leaving that league in ruins and radically changing the national landscape.

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To: C19fan
Forgive me for talking about the deceased in this way, but it's a matter of public record that this can all be laid at the feet of former Oklahoma Athletic Director Donnie Duncan, who came running to the rescue of all those schools - well, most of them, anyway - that were in very serious trouble with the NCAA back in the final days of the Southwest Conference. The result was "a new conference" with himself as Director of Football Operations.

Donnie also made the singular worst head coaching decision in the history of OU and possibly in the history of the entire sport of college football, quite frankly.

Don't want to say too much about situations involving "anybody else" though so let's just leave it at that...

21 posted on 07/22/2021 9:14:37 AM PDT by OKSooner (Salute the Marines.)
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To: C19fan

I think it would be kind of stupid for UT or OK join the SEC, they would at least have a chance in making the CFP where they are now, in the SEC they would have to face Bama, GA, and FL to get in.


22 posted on 07/22/2021 9:15:04 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: dfwgator

Some colleges and universities shouldn’t even have a football ‘program’...........................


23 posted on 07/22/2021 9:15:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: C19fan

In fact if you want to see the future of college football, look at Professional Soccer in England since the Premier League.

Basically 20 clubs have all the money, and now many of the other clubs are going under, to the point where, whereas once there were hundreds of professional clubs in England, there will eventually be under 50.


24 posted on 07/22/2021 9:16:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: sphinx

Good idea.

Baseball runs its own farm system. Let the NFL do the same.

In baseball, top high school prospects usually don’t go to college, but go right into the minor leagues. Let football and the NBA do the same, instead of seeing top players go to college. And then the NFL amd NBA would pay for their own player development, as major League baseball does.


25 posted on 07/22/2021 9:16:18 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: OKSooner

That is to say, “The worst head coaching HIRING decision”, just to be clear.


26 posted on 07/22/2021 9:20:53 AM PDT by OKSooner (Salute the Marines.)
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To: C19fan

College amateur sports is dead...just bury it already.


27 posted on 07/22/2021 9:22:03 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: C19fan

Texas is getting crushed in the recruiting wars. That is not going to change. Texas A&M is more attractive to top Texas HS players because they play in the SEC.

The best chances for Texas and Oklahoma to get into the playoffs is to stay just where they are in the Big 12.


28 posted on 07/22/2021 9:22:25 AM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: Oklahoma

What you just said.


29 posted on 07/22/2021 9:22:38 AM PDT by OKSooner (Salute the Marines.)
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To: C19fan

Don’t understand why Texas would want to join the SEC when they can’t even win the Big 12? The only way this works is if Alabama and Auburn switch to the East Division so it winds up:

SEC East: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt

SEC West: Arkansas, LSU, Missouri, Mississippi St., Oklahoma, Ole Miss, Texas, Texas A&M

Still a very daunting schedule when you add in a conference championship game and then an 8 or 16-team playoff.


30 posted on 07/22/2021 9:27:10 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Chinese communism will look different once the masks come off.)
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To: BrexitBen

I’ve felt that way for decades


31 posted on 07/22/2021 9:29:01 AM PDT by newzjunkey (America First - bring on Giant Meteor in 2021)
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To: cherry

I am done with it all. Only liked college sports. No more.


32 posted on 07/22/2021 9:29:40 AM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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UT has it’s own TV station. Will they share the $$$ it generates with fellow SEC members?


33 posted on 07/22/2021 9:31:01 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: sphinx

Change colleges to Flag Football.


34 posted on 07/22/2021 9:33:06 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: sphinx

The glory days of college football are over. Nothing lasts forever. Money,corruption,government and liberalism have all rotted the sport.


35 posted on 07/22/2021 9:34:30 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: JonPreston

t.u. has always gotten the lion’s share of revenue and has never shared before, so the answer is no.

UT is the University of Tennessee.


36 posted on 07/22/2021 9:35:14 AM PDT by Texas resident (Silver alert: There is a guy running around DC claiming he is the President.)
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To: C19fan

The dealbreaker every other time was the Longhorn Network (LHN, owned by ESPN/Disney). That contract does not run out until 2031 and it seems unlikely Texas will let go of it before then unless they are bought off.

Some are claiming this a master stroke to take the spotlight off A&M during their media day. I kinda think the Pac-12 is a better fit for Texas and Oklahoma, particularly given Austin’s fascination with everything Californian.


37 posted on 07/22/2021 9:36:49 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Chinese communism will look different once the masks come off.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
When will SEC stop meaning “Southeast”?

Are Missouri and Texas A & M in the Southeast?

38 posted on 07/22/2021 9:40:21 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: C19fan

Changing the subject, this is some sad news

Bobby Bowden ‘at peace’ after being diagnosed with terminal medical condition

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/31856730/bobby-bowden-peace-being-diagnosed-terminal-medical-condition

Bowden is one of the classiest guys who ever coached the game. I took great joy whenever we beat him, but he was a solid Christian man, and a patriot.


39 posted on 07/22/2021 9:41:59 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: monkeyshine
You’d still have the Pac-10. Er, Pac-12 I mean. Maybe the Pac-15 someday.

We should go back to being the Pac 8. The colleges that are not from Pacific Coast states should split off and form their own league.

40 posted on 07/22/2021 9:42:46 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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