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Is Florida Fumbling the Cruise Line Recovery?
Motley Fool ^ | JUL 13, 2021 10:05AM EDT | Rick Munarriz

Posted on 07/13/2021 10:35:21 AM PDT by Capt. Tom

This was supposed to be a summer of love for the cruise line industry, but the bounce for Carnival , and Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings is starting to take on water.

Carnival -- the world's largest cruise line -- has just one cruise ship currently sailing out of Florida. Royal Caribbean and Norwegian Cruise Line are also finding it hard to build momentum during the peak summer travel season. With the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis trading shots in disagreeing with sailing guidelines, it's the cruise lines that are now caught in the crossfire. Shareholders and cruise line fans are starting to pay the price.

Shore excursions Governor DeSantis was standing up for the cruise industry just a few months ago, battling it out with the CDC over requirements that each individual ship complete costly test sailings or demand that 95% of passengers -- and an even greater number of its crew members -- be vaccinated to resume operations. Just a few weeks ago, he was threatening cruise lines to fine them if they required that passengers wear masks out of Florida-originating itineraries.

The fallout isn't pretty. According to The Miami Herald, Carnival will be joining Royal Caribbean in requiring that unvaccinated passengers older than 12 buy new COVID-19 travel insurance if they're leaving from Florida ports come August.

Now we're at the point where the brands may be forced to alienate some customers as the restart process gets politicized between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated.

Carnival, Royal Caribbean, and Norwegian Cruise Line are generating negligible revenue. International travel restrictions remain in place. All three cruise line stocks are now roughly 20% below where they were earlier this year. In short, it hasn't been such a bon voyage.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Local News; Travel
KEYWORDS: covid; cruiselinerecovery; fl; florida
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A different look at the Cruise restart.

The Motley Fool also has picked up on the vaccinated vs unvaccinated aspect.

When cruise lines are back to sailing all their ships and have to fill them to capacity, will alienated cruisers be there for them? -Tom

1 posted on 07/13/2021 10:35:21 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Capt. Tom; George from New England; cll; DarthFuzball; Tennessee Nana; Fai Mao; CodeToad; ...

When cruise lines are back to sailing all their ships and have to fill them to capacity, will alienated cruisers be there for them? -Tom


2 posted on 07/13/2021 10:48:39 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (.It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -Tom)
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Carnival will be joining Royal Caribbean in requiring that unvaccinated passengers older than 12 buy new COVID-19 travel insurance

LOL! It seems cruising is going full "Flight Attendant" on it's consumers.

Let it all die.

3 posted on 07/13/2021 10:58:25 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: Capt. Tom

I know someone who flew all the way to the Greece for a Royal Caribbean cruise.
Got denied access for a covid technicality and got sent home.


4 posted on 07/13/2021 11:04:17 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: JonPreston

What laws have been passed to protect private businesses from covid lawsuits?


5 posted on 07/13/2021 11:04:29 AM PDT by bankwalker (groupthink kills ...)
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To: Capt. Tom

“will alienated cruisers be there for them?”

My limited experience says no. I know a few people who have their cruises canceled. They had prior cruising experiences and are pissed. They won’t be returning.


6 posted on 07/13/2021 11:04:40 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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over 12 get the jab or else?

They are not following the science.


7 posted on 07/13/2021 11:05:34 AM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house.... But the fact checkers said the story was false!)
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To: Capt. Tom

Cruise industry already has 185,000,000 vaxxed customers waiting to book cruises.

Most vaxxed are seniors and adults which is the majority of the cruising crowd. In my guess 90% of regular cruisers are already vaccinated.

Some people are just waiting to see results of initial cruises just starting in July. Those results will decide if cruise industry revives and how fast it revives.

If ships are full of vaccinated passengers, I expect problem free cruise results.


8 posted on 07/13/2021 11:09:11 AM PDT by entropy12 ( I am more interested in return of my capital than return on my capital...who said that?)
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To: Capt. Tom

Given that there is no evidence that the vaccine prevents anyone from getting sick, and has caused upwards of 9 000 deaths- they are not following science at all.

Cutting their own throats


9 posted on 07/13/2021 11:15:42 AM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Capt. Tom

The government should just butt out and let the cruise lines run their own business.


10 posted on 07/13/2021 11:17:26 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: entropy12

“seniors”

Covid vaccinations are only about 90% effective in the Geritol generation.

If you as a senior got the flu after regular flu vaccinations, you may wish to avoid crowed places as much and as well as you easily can.


11 posted on 07/13/2021 11:43:05 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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We have hotels and beautiful beaches(and rainy days for about a month now).

The cloudy skies keep the temperatures down.


12 posted on 07/13/2021 11:47:06 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: JonPreston

Ditto.


13 posted on 07/13/2021 11:47:39 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Capt. Tom

Spend your dinero with Florida businesses on land.


14 posted on 07/13/2021 11:47:56 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: JonPreston

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/tourism/os-bz-carnival-cruise-line-unvaccinated-testing-fees-travel-insurance-florida-20210712-cmisqvutojepdlgzjn2yjb7374-story.html

Don’t forget the $150 testing fee.

I’ll be keeping my feet on land.


15 posted on 07/13/2021 11:51:40 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Let the results speak for themselves. Cruise are now just starting to sail from Florida with MAINLY vaccinated passengers only. I am booked on MSC cruise in September.

No point in guessing the outcomes before the events. We will soon know how it turns out ACTUALLY. I believe in actual results 1000 times more than opinions.


16 posted on 07/13/2021 11:55:43 AM PDT by entropy12 ( I am more interested in return of my capital than return on my capital...who said that?)
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“Carnival will be joining Royal Caribbean in requiring that unvaccinated passengers older than 12 buy new COVID-19 travel insurance if they’re leaving from Florida ports come August.”

If that’s the only thing free people must do to cruise, i.e., buy extra insurance, I can live with that.


17 posted on 07/13/2021 11:56:55 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (While the foundations are being destroyed, what are the righteous doing?)
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To: Hodar

If you do not look for evidence, you are not going to find evidence.


18 posted on 07/13/2021 12:01:13 PM PDT by entropy12 ( I am more interested in return of my capital than return on my capital...who said that?)
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To: Capt. Tom

YES... IF the prices go down.


19 posted on 07/13/2021 12:01:33 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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I can wait.

I want to see if a vaccinated ship still gets a Covid outbreak, and what the reactions are to that.

-PJ

20 posted on 07/13/2021 12:07:42 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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