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Is Ammonia the Ideal Energy Currency?
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Posted on 06/24/2021 2:01:02 PM PDT by Jonty30

An energy currency is a means of reserving and transmitting energy and anhydrous ammonia (NH3) is the ideal energy currency for green electricity. In the human body, ATP (Adenosine TriPhosphate) is often considered a biological energy currency because it can either be consumed or stored, depending on the body’s needs. With respect to renewable power, an energy currency is basically the ability to put electricity into a bottle so that it can be stored when there is a surplus and used with there a shortage.

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Is ammonia a good replacement for gasoline?

My thought is that hydrocarbons will still be needed, but the ideal situation is going to be a mixture of solutions, with renewables, where appropriate like on mountain tops or some other hard to get to location, and hydrocarbons and nuclear for generating electricity for homes or e-bicycles and maybe ammonia for vehicles.

Ammonia has at least the ability to be transported and, if made industrially, we might be able to get the costs down to somewhere near what it costs to produce gas.

1 posted on 06/24/2021 2:01:02 PM PDT by Jonty30
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Yeah, nothing bad ever happens when anhydrous ammonia leaks. What could possibly go wrong?


2 posted on 06/24/2021 2:11:40 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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Same as gasoline. There is not perfect solution.

I’m not strictly an environmentalist and would be fine with using hydrocarbons, because we have at least 10,000 years of hydrocarbons at current usage.

However, assuming that carbon really is a problem in the long-term, it’s good to ask whether or not that there are solutions.


3 posted on 06/24/2021 2:15:41 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Just because I coughed on you does not mean that I have covid. It means that we have covid. )
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To: Jonty30

And stone by stone they built it high, until the sun broke through
A ray of hope, a shining light, Ammonia Avenue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX64VlgP9j4


4 posted on 06/24/2021 2:17:38 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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5 posted on 06/24/2021 2:27:18 PM PDT by Hetuck ("We will Barry you" - Nikita Khrushchev)
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To: noiseman

Well, this particular blog seems to think that the options are either anhydrous ammonia, hydrazine (!) and pure hydrogen peroxide.

If that particular mix is your entire range of choices, I guess ammonia might not be so bad.

But maybe they should keep looking for something a little less corrosive/poisonous/explosive? To be fair, if those are the criteria, hydrazine would be just about the perfect fuel!


6 posted on 06/24/2021 2:28:12 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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Whatever happened to the claim that cars will run on water?


7 posted on 06/24/2021 2:35:42 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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But maybe they should keep looking for something a little less corrosive/poisonous/explosive? To be fair, if those are the criteria, hydrazine would be just about the perfect fuel!

Well, at least if they choose hydrazine we’ll have a usable fuel for our personal spaceships as well.

8 posted on 06/24/2021 2:35:46 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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We’re waiting on the UFOs to land and give us that technology.


9 posted on 06/24/2021 2:45:54 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Who is John Galt and is he vaccinated?)
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To: Jonty30

The obvious and safest solution is nuclear energy.Nuclear plants can be made far safer now with much less waste product. But nuke is received with horror by the Left because it IS the cheapest and best. De-growth and de-population is the goal of the Left, not efficiency or clean safe growh and prosperity.


10 posted on 06/24/2021 2:54:23 PM PDT by arthurus ( covfefev" v*v)
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But you can’t carry a nuclear reactor in your car and there isn’t enough copper in the world to electrify the US for transportation purposes and lithium batteries are only about 6% as efficient as a gallon of gas.

I agree that nuclear is the best option on an industrial level, but for electricity, we are limited to powering our houses and not our cars.


11 posted on 06/24/2021 2:58:07 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Just because I coughed on you does not mean that I have covid. It means that we have covid. )
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Our small farm town had to be evacuated for 24 hours due to an anhydrous ammonia leak a few years back.

It’s not all sunshine and roses.


12 posted on 06/24/2021 3:08:14 PM PDT by Valpal1
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NOthing is. If you had a massive gasoline line leak, you might have to evacuate for a much longer period.

That’s just engineering.


13 posted on 06/24/2021 3:09:04 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Just because I coughed on you does not mean that I have covid. It means that we have covid. )
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14 posted on 06/24/2021 3:19:09 PM PDT by null and void (Nowadays the difference between conspiracy theory and truth is six months. H/T ebshumidors)
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To: absalom01

Amazing that people never understand that the range of hydrocarbons from diesel oil to high octane gasoline constitute ideal fuels depending upon your specific application. But yeah, I see the attraction of hypergolic rocket fuels - so long as you keep it in your neighborhood and not mine.


15 posted on 06/24/2021 3:20:42 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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Whatever happened to the claim that cars will run on water?

The government put the water-fueled car right next to the 100 mpg carburetor.


16 posted on 06/24/2021 3:33:36 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("Pour les vaincre il faut de l'audace, encore de l'audace, toujours de l'audace")
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To: Jonty30

It takes lots of energy to make Ammonia. Making ammonia from the Nitrogen in the air is an important first step in making fertilizer.


17 posted on 06/24/2021 3:42:52 PM PDT by Nateman (If the Left Is not screaming , you are doing it wrong..)
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To: AndyJackson

Hey, we stick with keralox in our house for all of our sub orbital needs. Keep that hydrazine away from me!


18 posted on 06/24/2021 3:46:15 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Jonty30

Unlikely, Ammonia’s profile is more dangerous on every measure.

Ammonia A - Compressed Gas; B1 - Flammable Gas; D1A - Very Toxic; E - Corrosive

Gasoline B2 - Flammable Liquid; D2A - Very Toxic


19 posted on 06/24/2021 3:51:27 PM PDT by Valpal1
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Nuclear reactors can provide the electricity to power the EVs we are going to be stuck with in only a few years. Mandaing full EV in some absurd amount of time like 10 or 15 years will put demands on the generating system way beyone any projected capacity without putting up new Nuke plants which are cheaper to build and safer hen before.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/dec/17/floating-mini-nukes-could-power-countries-by-2025-says-startup

https://newatlas.com/energy/seaborg-floating-nuclear-reactor-barge/

etc.

20 posted on 06/24/2021 4:21:19 PM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe 1)
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