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Only in the last couple of years have I turned my attention to the Eastern Front War and what I find is utterly unreal.

The scope of death and destruction defies the imagination. The lengths Stalin went to drive his armies is beyond anything I have ever read, his brutality makes Hitler and Mao look almost normal.

I plan to read more of this history so that I can have more of a knowledge of this aspect of W.W. II

All comments welcome, have away.

1 posted on 06/22/2021 10:05:55 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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Watch “Enemy at the Gates”, it is about Vasily Zaitsev, a Soviet sniper in Stalingrad.


2 posted on 06/22/2021 10:09:40 AM PDT by packagingguy
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> Without the sacrifices the Russians made on the Eastern Front the invasion of Europe would not have been successful. <

Absent the atomic bomb, you are correct about that. Something like 70% of the German army was tied up in the east. Had those forces been in France D-Day probably would have been a bloody failure.


3 posted on 06/22/2021 10:12:26 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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We should have let the Germans beat Stalin and hang him from a lamp post.

Germany losing to us was inevitable.

L


5 posted on 06/22/2021 10:13:13 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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The greatest Stalingrad film in my opinion is the west German film from the 50s...Stalingrad:Dogs do you want to live forever....its incredible.


6 posted on 06/22/2021 10:13:57 AM PDT by toddausauras (How far will the left go in terms of destroying our personal freedoms?)
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Forgotten Soldier recounts the horror of World War II on the eastern front, as seen through the eyes of a teenaged German soldier. At first an exciting adventure, young Guy Sajer’s war becomes, as the German invasion falters in the icy vastness of the Ukraine, a simple, desperate struggle for survival against cold, hunger, and above all the terrifying Soviet artillery. As a member of the elite Gross Deutschland Division, he fought in all the great battles from Kursk to Kharkov.
7 posted on 06/22/2021 10:15:10 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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As amazing as it may sound today Stalin practically was bending himself over in appeasing Hitler. Invading the Soviet Union was Hitler's biggest strategic blunder
8 posted on 06/22/2021 10:15:32 AM PDT by Nateman (If the Left Is not screaming , you are doing it wrong..)
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The impact of the T-34 was devastating and the Nazis had no real answers for it.


10 posted on 06/22/2021 10:16:14 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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If Moscow would have been the focal point from the beginning it might have turned out differently.


11 posted on 06/22/2021 10:16:27 AM PDT by toddausauras (How far will the left go in terms of destroying our personal freedoms?)
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Brest Fortress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw3mDJ0qdp0


14 posted on 06/22/2021 10:20:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Hitler’s fatal mistake.


15 posted on 06/22/2021 10:21:41 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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My great grand father was a polish Jew in the Imperial Russian army. The only reason I’m here is he got the heck out of there before 1917.
I’m an American, I was in the Strategic Air Command(SAC).
but I do have a “soft spot for Russian soldiers.
That being said I’d destroy their government in a millisecond.


19 posted on 06/22/2021 10:24:30 AM PDT by rellic
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Russia buried nearly a million men...in Ukraine alone.

Germany, half that.

That’s some large scale, existential war right there.


20 posted on 06/22/2021 10:25:14 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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As operations go Barbarossa was a consolation prize for the Nazis. It’s estimated that had the Battle of Britain lasted at least a couple of more weeks, Germany would have won it. They nearly wiped out the RAF. But Germany didn’t know how close they were to winning and cancelled the invasion of Britain. The rest is history.


21 posted on 06/22/2021 10:25:24 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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Without the sacrifices the Russians made on the Eastern Front the invasion of Europe would not have been successful.

While this is true, it's also true that the only reason the Russians made those sacrifices was because the Russians were fighting for their very survival after Hitler double-crossed them. Until then, the Russians were Hitler's willing partners.
24 posted on 06/22/2021 10:27:42 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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The Soviet Army was very focused on tanks.

The best antitank weapon the Nazis had was the 88 flak cannon.

Somehow, these cannons had to be removed from the Eastern Front.

The Americans began daylight bombing of Nazi targets.

The Nazis had to pull 88 flak cannons from the Eastern Front to use to defend against American bombers.

The losses to American crews was astounding.

The bombing wasn’t really all that effective. Something like 25% of the bombs landed within 15 miles of their targets.

The real success of the American bombing campaign was to reduce the power of the Nazis on the Eastern Front. This allowed the Soviets to survive and counterattack the Nazis.

A lot of good young American men died in the skies over Europe to save the Soviets.

And saving the Soviets won the war.

I wish that I was the one who first realized this, but it was actually Victor Davis Hanson.


26 posted on 06/22/2021 10:29:08 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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https://archive.org/details/battleforstaling00chui


28 posted on 06/22/2021 10:30:17 AM PDT by gr8eman (I keep telling these idiots I see, that they know even less than the idiots on TV)
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Read ‘Hitler’s War on Russia: Hitler Moves East, Vol I 1941-1943’ and ‘Scorched Earth, Vol II (London: Harrap, 1970 ISBN 0-88740-598-3) by Paul Carell.

I was able to find paperback Vol I and hardcover Vol II in 2014. Somehow I also downloaded a .pdf version to read Vol II.


36 posted on 06/22/2021 10:48:08 AM PDT by Steely eyed killer of the deep (When in the course of human events...)
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The geographic sizes of the offensives on both sides of the Eastern Front boggles my mind.

The distance between Lenningrad to the north and Stalingrad to the south is close to 1,000 miles.

The Polish/Soviet border to Moscow is 600 miles.

The equivalent area in the US would be an advance from Washington DC to Illinois with a north-south front extending from Green-Bay to New Orleans.


37 posted on 06/22/2021 10:50:08 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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This is also a good series on Barbarossa, produced by the Russians.

Soviet Storm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97iOxxH_64s


38 posted on 06/22/2021 10:59:22 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Some people today question why the UK entered against Hitler’s fascism instead of against Stalin’s communism. After all, Stalin started the war. The UK entered the war as Hitler signed a non-aggression pact with Stalin, and Hitler was blitzkreiging Britain’s free allies in Europe and threatening the UK. Stalin wasn’t doing that.


39 posted on 06/22/2021 11:02:39 AM PDT by nagant
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