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To: Captain Peter Blood

Watch “Enemy at the Gates”, it is about Vasily Zaitsev, a Soviet sniper in Stalingrad.


2 posted on 06/22/2021 10:09:40 AM PDT by packagingguy
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Saw it. then I watched one of the “Stalingrad” flicks. Our involvement in WW2 was childs play compared to what the Russians dealt with. Polocks were the real victims as Stalin and Hitler should have been allowed more to carve each other up.


4 posted on 06/22/2021 10:12:28 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (ADAMS WAS A )
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Does Russia need a Strongman? Compared to Iraq Saddam at least had order. Too many cases like that where tribal enemies are always present and a ruthless leaders in order. Stalin was forgiven I do believe. The Japanese were just as bad but they surrendered to a benevolent enemy who wanted protection from the payback-minded Chinese.


12 posted on 06/22/2021 10:17:10 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (1)
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To: packagingguy

Watch “Enemy at the Gates”, it is about Vasily Zaitsev, a Soviet sniper in Stalingrad.


Forget the movie. Not the worst movie in the world, but very misleading. Makes it seem like Zaitsev won the battle singlehandedly. Not even close.

Instead, I highly recommend the book of the same name by William Craig. Lays out how the entire battle played out, with Zaitsev being a tiny part. It drives home just how desperate things got for the Germans once they were encircled and ordered by Hitler not to retreat (which they easily could have for at least a month).

You know things are very bad when:
1. Your men kill their horses — not so much for the horse meat as for the protein in their brains
2. The men are so demoralized, they don’t even bother off loading the supply planes.


49 posted on 06/22/2021 11:24:42 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: packagingguy

The movie was OK...Bob Hoskins played Khrushchev...Ed Harris played the German sniper, Major Konig...

The movie came out 20 years ago...

70 posted on 06/22/2021 11:59:34 AM PDT by L.A.Justice
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To: packagingguy

The 1993 Stalingrad by Vilsmaier is way better.


146 posted on 06/25/2021 2:13:04 AM PDT by rxh4n1
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