Posted on 06/21/2021 12:58:39 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
Are we beginning to see evidence of ‘Antibody Dependent Enhancement’ (ADE) due to the Covid-19 vaccines in the United Kingdom? The latest data on hospitalisations and deaths allegedly due to Covid-19 certainly suggests so.
ADE can arise in several different ways but the best-known is dubbed the ‘Trojan Horse Pathway’. This occurs when non-neutralizing antibodies generated by past infection or vaccination fail to shut down the pathogen upon re-exposure.
Instead, they act as a gateway by allowing the virus to gain entry and replicate in cells that are usually off limits (typically immune cells, like macrophages). That, in turn, can lead to wider dissemination of illness, and over-reactive immune responses that cause more severe illness.
Barry Bloom, MD, PhD, of the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health explanation of ADE is as follows…
(Excerpt) Read more at dailyexpose.co.uk ...
You can go off in a corner and mutter to yourself about how I should count numbers ever time I show you a VAERS chart that proves Covid vaccine data is not comparable to deaths, reports of harm reported for any other vaccine in the 30 years the CDC has been recording such content in VAERS.
That’s all the vax-trolls do, is mutter amongst themselves.
The good news, is that folks here are definitely on to them.
Let them mutter and attempt to disqualify....the more they do this, the more evident and obvious their troll status.
Ask them yourself, troll.
I’ve followed the threads and I never saw that paper here until you brought it up.
... GIGGLES ...
Plus, the usual procedures for monitoring trials were not set up. Instead all that’s being reported is the voluntary VAERS.
There would normally be an independent safety, mitigation, and ethics committee that follows every single individual receiving the JAB with doctors determining what caused any side effects.
Poorly designed phase that would not have been allowed in normal testing of a drug/vaccine prior to FDA approval.
There is a video o Bitchute showing thousands of VAERS reported deaths have been removed. I’ll try to find it again.
You haven’t seen anything because you don’t look for it. I get it, you got the shot and must defend it no matter what
Perhaps the sentences up to that one can be part of the case against vaccines, especially for individuals who have to decide. But then you post a speculative claim that tells people that you are not interested in facts whatsoever. Also the hockey stick chart is not facts, it is innuendo, without an explanation of the rise.
Simply put, if you expect to be taken seriously and convince people that vaccines have safety issue, then you need to acknowledge the fact that the vaccines were created in response to the threat by well-mearning scientists. They have tested the adenovirus gene therapy for over 20 years. mRNA also has a long history. Yes, I know about some of the mRNA failures. But you have yet to post a single paper describing the successes
Here's just one: https://biblio.ugent.be/publication/8628303/file/8628317 which notes a lot of the same adverse events that are written up in VAERS (reactions at the injection site, fatigue, fever chills, etc)
Spike protein in vax recipiients: https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab465/6279075: 68 pg/mL ±21 pg/m
I am asking out of ignorance, but if a person carrying the anti-bodies from having had Covid is vaccinated and receives another dose of anti-bodies, could being saturated with so many anti-bodies have an adverse affect on the victim???
He’s doing a strawman argument.
Do you remember anyone on these threads citing his first link on mice, as evidence for the spike protein causing clots?
Because I don’t.
But somehow that flawed study, is supposed to be necessary and sufficient refutation of the idea that the spike protein really does cause clots.
It’s like doing a study where you tie someone to a battleship anchor and drop them into the Atlantic, to prove that all stories of drowning in a bathtub are impossible exaggerations.
In particular, he doesn’t look for any studies looking for clots in mice following mRNA injection, or following injections of lower quantities of spike protein.
And he ignores all the real live medical reports of clots following the jab in humans.
Incidentally, he didn’t squawk at my earlier suggestion that the Harvard study shows people have 1 billion spike proteins per ml of blood, 24 hours after the jab.
By the way, troll-boi.
Your Harvard study was 24 hours after the jab.
Do we know the pharmacokinetics for first appearance of spike protein in the blood as a function of time?
Is there any proof that peak concentrations occur at 24 hours instead of (say) 18 or 20 hours?
Thank you for coming here to enlighten us on vaccine safety.
I suggest you work on your talking points.
mRNA may peak that fast, I don't know. But my J&J didn't do anything for two weeks (I had no spike protein antibodies). I finally got some after 30 days. My opinion is slower is better.
No because I checked your numbers are you were correct.
Incidentally, he didn’t squawk at my earlier suggestion that the Harvard study shows people have 1 billion spike proteins per ml of blood, 24 hours after the jab."
All you are is deflection. You can't explain why VAERS data is tragic for Covid unlike 30 years of data collection on all other vaccines. It's because they are bioweapons - they don't exactly 'blend in' with other vaccines and there's no way you can just 'explain it away' so you spit up deflection articles, like this bought and paid for link you threw up:
Oxford University Press is part of Oxford University and received grant funds from Bill & Melinda Gates foundation "To support the publication of a supplement issue in Clinical Infectious Diseases on the mortality burden of respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) disease in low- and middle-income countries (LMIC)"
Oxford University Press - homepage (oup.com)
Oxford University Press - Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation
"All Your Research R Belong To Us" Decades of funding from CDC, NIH, Bill Gates et. al. now allows them to weild their funding power over universities who sit up and beg like dogs when they whistle. You can upchuck deflection articles but you can't refute real world damage and proof that Covid vaccines break the mold as they break the backs of the public's health around the world.
Unbelievable levels of harm and death, experts weighing in against Fauci/CDC 'narrative and shills like you shrieking we should do as the CDC/Fauci tell us to do. Fauci and the CDC PUSH THE VAX. YOU PUSH THE VAX. Why should we believe anything you people say? Lies about Covid. Lies about masks. Lies about HCQ and Ivermectin. YOU ALL LIE. We don't trust you.
Only 60% have had the second dose. After the second dose the number of deaths jump. Especially as time increases since you had the second dose.
We are currently undertaking the largest human trial of all time, with little to no prep work. It flies in the face of decades of saftey protocol instituted to STOP something like this.
As a matter of fact, our homework (past animal trials) showed us massive problems, and not in producing antibodies, but when challenged with the natural virus.
And with that we start the largest human trial in history? This is madness! We should be laser focused on EVERY SINGLE reaction to this experimental. If a kid gets a runny nose, we should know it and evaluate it.
Yet that is not what we are seeing. Quite the opposite….heck during th largest human trial in history, our adverse events reporting system is passive? And people are ok with that?!
Madness, absolute madness. I honestly do not understand how anyone rational could approve of this.
Experimental, untested, rolled out in massive, earth changing numbers, and nobody even looking at what it could be doing……
Madness
This is what was expected due to ADE. Also, that the vaccinated that are the driver of the various strains.
Too many variables.
Some jabs are F'd up in manufacturing (as in Baltimore).
Some jabs are sabotaged along the way.
Some jabs are injected intradermally not intramuscularly.
Some people have different absorption of the mRNA in their cells and different activation.
People have different amounts of spike expression in their cell membranes and different amounts breaking loose and getting into the blood.
Some people have different immune responses to the jab, such that any free spike in their blood is taken out quickly, some don't.
And so on, and so on.
*snerk*.
You “checked” *my* numbers.
OK Troll-boi.
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