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A federal judge just ruled against over 100 Houston hospital workers who will be fired if they don't get the COVID-19 vaccine
Business Insider via MSN ^ | 6/12/21 | Michelle Mark

Posted on 06/13/2021 2:56:08 AM PDT by Libloather

A federal judge tossed out a lawsuit from more than 100 hospital employees who sued Houston Methodist over its policy requiring all staff to be vaccinated against COVID-19.

The workers alleged in their lawsuit that the hospital was "forcing its employees to be human 'guinea pigs' as a condition for continued employment." They also accused the hospital of violating the Nuremberg Code of 1947, likening the vaccine mandate to Nazi medical experimentation on concentration camp prisoners.

US District Judge Lynn Hughes was not sympathetic to either argument, writing in his order of dismissal Saturday evening that none of the employees were forced or coerced to take the vaccine. He also noted that the hospital cannot violate the Nuremberg Code because it is a private employer, not a government.

"Equating the injection requirement to medical experimentation in concentration camps is reprehensible," Hughes wrote. "Nazi doctors conducted medical experiments on victims that caused pain, mutilation, permanent disability, and in many cases, death."

He added that the workers were free to accept or reject a vaccine and that they would "simply need to work elsewhere" if they chose the latter.

"If a worker refuses an assignment, changed office, earlier start time, or other directive, he may be properly fired. Every employment includes limits on the worker's behavior in exchange for his remuneration," Hughes wrote. "That is all part of the bargain."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; Local News
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To: Freedom4US

Apparently they can be forced as this judge just upheld. Again i didn’t say it was right or wrong but it is a fact. I e left covid to be more widely required very soon


161 posted on 06/13/2021 10:09:43 AM PDT by Mom MD ( )
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To: Robert DeLong
Certainly more daunting that our revolutionary war back in the 1700s though.

I am almost through the second volume of Washington Irving's "The Life of George Washington" (5 volumes).   The last few pages I've read is where his badly defeated army, after the fall of Fort Washington due to General Greene's foolhardiness, is at the Delaware River that he is about to cross the first time.   Most of the few thousand farmer soldiers retreated from their disheartening loss with no shoes, blankets, or tents in the month of December.

It was more daunting than we could ever imagine for the newly independent United States.   He had to take on the most mighty superpower of his time.   We ourselves are now the most mighty superpower and we have his example to guide us.

162 posted on 06/13/2021 10:27:10 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken )
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To: Mom MD

Correct. You can also work without a hepatitis vaccine and a flu shot(in most).
I’d be interested to read about actual named hospitals that have fired employees solely for not getting these shots.


163 posted on 06/13/2021 10:34:16 AM PDT by americas.best.days... ( Donald John Trump has pulled the sword from the stone.)
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To: gas_dr

“In 2020 there was an absolutele increase of deaths by 19%. This number would usually be 1% year over year at the highest. What caused the increase in deaths.”

Sadly, you claim covid did that and nothing else. Not exactly a doctorate level scientific mind to make such a wild conclusion that the death counts were real or that covid was to blame.


164 posted on 06/13/2021 10:44:19 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: higgmeister
I didn't say it was not daunting, but today's armies have fire power that can decimate a lot more fighters in very short order. Patriots would not have access to those same weapons, and I do not believe the military would join us either. France wouldn't join us either. Russia and/or China might, but then we would have to turn around and fight them.

So, as you can see our task would be more daunting, as we would face those same things George Washington's army also dealt with, as far as weather conditions go. But they possessed equal fire power, muskets, as their combat opponents had. Sure, they were vastly outnumbered and were up against a far more experienced opponent in the art of warfare, but the opponent had no quick method of enlarging, or even re-enforcing, its presence in a quick manner when troops on the ground were killed in action. They also did not engage in warfare as the British did, and that engagement helped to offset the mismatch in manpower, and experience.

We have none of those working in our favor, but we would be much like George Washington's army in terms of small manpower and inexperience in warfare.

165 posted on 06/13/2021 11:03:22 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: ReaganGeneration2
Failing that, states need to write more specific laws protecting people from employee tyranny like this.

Just as Karl Marx and Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov Lenin wished.

166 posted on 06/13/2021 11:20:16 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken )
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To: David Chase
You clearly are having some issues.

Try to gain control, you’ll feel better.

You obviously have a behind-the-scenes bet with another troll about trying to get me to react.

Pay up, you fail.

And, you're projecting on "All vaccines all the time."

For the party invites, they haven't dropped off, because I almost never attend parties anyway.

167 posted on 06/13/2021 11:50:07 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Freedom4US
First thing, not that it should matter, but I’d point out in this instance they already have the job. Right now they are being pressured to take an experimental vaccine or else they will get fired.

This is a perfect scenario for the start of something I’ve been predicting ever since this idea of employer vaccine requirements first came up:

1. Nobody working for an employer requiring a COVID vaccine who doesn’t want to be vaccinated has to get fired.

2. Instead, recalcitrant employees may decide to take an indefinite leave of absence due to “work-related stress” over the COVID vaccine requirement and the employees’ fears of the vaccine.

3. The employer faces a flood of disability claims, with an army of ambulance-chasing lawyers behind them.

4. SSDI, state disability insurance funds, and private insurance companies are forced into insolvency.

5. “COVID Stimulus Bill #736” — whenever it is passed — includes several trillion dollars to bail everyone out.

6. The former employees who refused to get the vaccine get a “retirement payment” of thousands of dollars every month for the rest of their lives.

168 posted on 06/13/2021 11:52:55 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: WASCWatch

“He is not a moron; he is corrupt, based on personal experience.”

You had a case before him or know of one? Please tell.


169 posted on 06/13/2021 11:54:04 AM PDT by romanesq (TRUSTY THE PLAN! ChiCom Joe is the Plan? Que magnificent! 👹)
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To: grey_whiskers

Great observation.

Epitome of a troll.


170 posted on 06/13/2021 11:55:27 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Mom MD

So, you “can’t say it’s right or wrong”? Why not? What seems to be the problem?


171 posted on 06/13/2021 1:17:00 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Mom MD

If MD Anderson was going to require all employees to get a Covid vaccine, they would certainly have done it by now. Your comment is just wishful thinking to justify your extensive lack of knowledge

The President/CEO of MD Anderson is a real doctor with a large resume in medical research, not some guy who is just a bean counter and administrator.

MD Anderson is not going to require a COVID-19 vaccine because it is run by really smart people.

MD Anderson does lots of clinical research into potential vaccine treatments for cancer.


172 posted on 06/13/2021 1:29:12 PM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: romanesq

See my post #132.


173 posted on 06/13/2021 1:31:09 PM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: Mr Rogers
Utterly dishonest of you! Never in any way said people should be FORCED to get a vaccine. No one MAKES you work somewhere - unlike when I was in the military and had no choice about getting anthrax shots.

Not dishonest at all. If one's choices in employment are greatly limited due to refusing the vax, if one's salary is forced down due to refusing the vax, or if there are basically no good paying jobs available for the unvaxxed, the vaccine is de-facto forced for those people.

Dishonesty would be promoting an untested gene therapy for an easily treatable viral infection.
174 posted on 06/13/2021 1:34:07 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: Mom MD

Hydroxychloroquine is part of a treatment cocktail. It serves one primary purpose, which is to be a transport mechanism for zinc into cells, to prevent viral replication. If given without zinc, it is set up for failure. If given without other components, such as IV vitamin C as antiviral, blood thinners, corticosteroids, thiamine and vitamin D, it is set up for failure.

It is a little like saying that vitamin D3 is bad for you, when to be truly beneficial, it needs to be given with vitamin K2 and magnesium.

You people simply don’t want therapeutics to work. That attitude cost us 500,000 lives. How arrogant and evil of you all.


175 posted on 06/13/2021 1:41:11 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: WASCWatch

i am not intellectually challenged and am well aware of what MD Anderson is thank you for the insults. If CMS requires vaccination MD Anderson will
comply. Period. If the state requires health care workers to be vaccinated they will comply. They may require it on their own once it is FDA approved in a few months. I have been in health care 35 years and in leadership a fair amount of that time. Call someone else stupid


176 posted on 06/13/2021 3:24:23 PM PDT by Mom MD ( )
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To: Mom MD
Call someone else stupid

That's the problem. You people are not stupid. There is a method to denying use of therapeutics to sick people, to convincing them (as Peter McCullough MD pointed out) that cv19 has no treatment for cv19 and influenza.

Your policies would have been equally effective at any of the famous WW2 internment camps. It takes some kind of sociopathic evil to be in that group.
177 posted on 06/13/2021 4:50:50 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: Mom MD

I don’t think it will ever be *mandatory*

It will be highly promoted, may say you have to wear a mask if unvaccinated, They may not hire if unvaccinated. But its doubtful they will actually fire employees for not taking it. Especially now that the recent study from Cleveland Clinic states that immunity from having the illness is as effective or better than the vaccine.


178 posted on 06/13/2021 5:15:40 PM PDT by americas.best.days... ( Donald John Trump has pulled the sword from the stone.)
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To: americas.best.days...

I suspect demonstration of sufficient antibody titer will be accepted in lieu of the vaccine


179 posted on 06/13/2021 6:13:11 PM PDT by Mom MD ( )
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To: Mom MD

MD Anderson is so big and so highly respected, no organization would dare attempt to require them to force their employees to get a COVID-19 vaccination.

MD Anderson could just tell such an organization to stick their order where the sun doesn’t shine.

You think some no-name bureaucrats have enough pull to go up against MD Anderson? Not in a million years.


180 posted on 06/13/2021 7:03:57 PM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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