Caught in a 'pickle,' tens of millions of Americans might not have had an adequate response to the Covid-19 vaccine

While there's no clear number of how many Americans are taking medications that might prove to be a challenge for the Covid-19 vaccine, a new study can help give an estimate. In a paper published last month, Dr. Beth Wallace, a rheumatologist and her team at the University of Michigan, looked at a database of more than 3 million Americans to see how many took immunosuppressants. Based on that data, Wallace estimates that about 60 million Americans are taking immunosuppressants that could interfere with the vaccine.

Good morning!
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“ Dr. Gold was in DC for the 1/6 capitol incident as a Trump supporter. Are you a Trump supporter? She like many Trump supporters mistakenly thought they were allowed to enter the Capitol because they were being motioned in by capitol police and the magnetic door locks were opened from the inside. (video is available confirming these facts).”
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I’m aware of how things went down in D.C. on Jan. 6th.

I spent the better part of 3 days trying to explain to a certain group of people here that Ashli Babbit was indeed really shot and gave my analysis of videos and pictures of the event.
I was called every name under the Troll sun for it.
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“ I know for a fact of at least one Freeper who was in DC for the event. I suspect there were many. ”

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I know of at least 2 that were there. I worry about them. I think they’re good people and conservatives. I won’t mention names.
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“ You seem to find Dr. Gold’s capitol charges very amusing and delightful that she might serve time...Well I have a word for you: Libel

Libel is a false published, written statement damaging a person’s reputation. Some states combine libel and slander claims under the umbrella term “defamation.” Other states still distinguish between the two, requiring the appropriate civil suit for the respective offense.

You are committing it on your post.”

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You saw I was delighted? You sure are extra sensitive about Dr. Gold. Are you related or something?

If the whole demon, GYN, alien thing is a rumor, my post certainly showed I don’t take it seriously.

If the whole demon, GYN, alien thing is true, my post certainly showed I don’t take it seriously.

Nice try (not).
That’s not exactly how Libel works for public figures.

Your attempts to scare me into silence regarding anything negative in all things Dr. Gold really falls flat.

Repeating an internet rumor (I don’t know if it’s a rumor or not) does not place me in legal Jeopardy. The person or persons that started the rumor (if it is a rumor and not fact) are on the hook. My statements are evidence for the good Doctor to use and show harm was done.

In closing.........I don’t know this Dr. Gold from any internet Doctor.

I don’t really care if she’s creditable or not.
Because I don’t take people seriously that put themselves out there in the internet world making claims.

Dr. Gold is on the outside looking in.
She doesn’t have hard data from any vaccine manufacturer and she doesn’t process samples to conduct her own research and evaluations.

But she does have internet followers.
Just like Kim Kardashian.

That is the arrest warrant with the grand jury papers. I am bro quoting the DOJ.

I never heard of the phrase "bro quoting the DOJ." But I suppose it means you are deep-state connected. Nice slip-up there.

And if I recall you used to post a lot of DOJ stuff

Show me the links. I don't remember them at the moment.

Since you asked so nicely, I think Fauci should be in jail for treason and that we should drop a high ordinance bomb on the three gorges dam in retaliation for an act of war by the Chinese.

I'll ping a bunch of others to that one.

You sre excellent at pivoting to your talking points. Even when they are not pertinent to the conversation.

Context and metadata matter.

Not one thing changes a thing I has said on this threat which you recall has to do with a false assertion that everyone vaccinated will be dead in two years

It IS a false assertion: I Goolaged it, and all kinds of "debunker" sites are pointing out they can't find any original quotation, just a meme someone else -- probably a tool just like you -- put out with that quote "attributed" to Montaigner, on social media.

It went (pardon the pun) viral.

Talking about spreading unsubstantiated rumors.

Come on, man! You are better than this!

Yes, I'm like the man sailing through a sewer on a glass-bottomed boat.

"I'm in this crap, but I'm *clearly* above it."

NOTE: HEY EVERYBODY, GAS_DR PUT IN WRITING WE SHOULD BOMB THE THREE GORGES DAM!

Grey_Whiskers: “ Incidentally, speaking of “not been verified”:
neither has the safety and efficacy of any of your precious jabs.”

Bagster: “Neither has your male nurse license or your ghetto credentials.”

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Ladies please. I don’t give a rats a$$ who gets vaccinated or who doesn’t.

I’ve made that clear many, many times.

But because of that fact you really have nothing to attack me with.
So you try to make it personal.

Blogs, Twitter, Facebook and the “Experts” and people following them don’t affect my opinion as they infect yours.

As far as my credentials, I can post any documents or pics I want on Parler. I can prove anything I claim knowing I might need to prove it some day.
I’m verified on Parler.

But here, when I leak something personal (on purpose) I have it thrown back at me, I get memes and snide comments.

Yes, I tested the waters. So if I decide to make some interesting post on Parler, I will expect the information to be toyed with.
Do I want that? Probably not.
But, I might pick out some things to post one day.

#MyDaysOfGlory

Ladies please. I don’t give a rats a$$ who gets vaccinated or who doesn’t.

Yea yea, we know. You're just hear to correct 'misinformation' and 'lies' and 'blah blah blah'. Cause of your male nurse status, you are highly qualified to recognize those parlor tricks from the liars and quacks with medical degrees and scientific expertise.

Say. What does 'emergency medicine' got to do with the covid and vaccines, anyway?

But because of that fact you really have nothing to attack me with. So you try to make it personal.

No. You're pretty much attacked for pimping a poison vax in the face of the tsunami of mounting evidence against it. For mocking, ridiculing, and besmirching your betters, though their information may be had by way of social media, as if that's any different in any way from getting it from a book or a 'news' program on CNN.

Your vax pimping makes no logical sense. Even more so now that your guru, Fauci, is exposed as the evil, plotting, twisted, corrupt liar that he is. Nothing he ever said or will say can be credibly believed, and yet you vax pimps stay the Fauci/Derp State course, furthering, assisting, and enhancing any banana in the tail-pipe tricks our enemies may be foisting upon the country and all the peoples of the world.

A thinking man might adapt to new information and evolve his opinion. But not you. Its a pride thing with you people, at this point.

The personal attacks are just a bonus, richly earned.

As far as my credentials, I can post any documents or pics I want on Parler. I can prove anything I claim knowing I might need to prove it some day. I’m verified on Parler.

But here, when I leak something personal (on purpose) I have it thrown back at me, I get memes and snide comments.

Haha, 'memes' you say? My word. Scandalous!

Gettin' a little defensive, there sport? Cracks in the veneer?

May I advise you (because I like you, and I'm a helper), as a decades long veteran of internet and real life 'debates', never let 'em see you sweat. You did much better when you pretended not to get mad (though daddy always knew).

Yes, I tested the waters. So if I decide to make some interesting post on Parler, I will expect the information to be toyed with. Do I want that? Probably not. But, I might pick out some things to post one day.

To be perfectly honest, Chase. Nobody cares. The fact that you think anybody does is another strike against your arrogant ass. I tell you this because I love you.

I will consider your post the sign of a broken man. I may choose to have mercy on you, if you change your evil ways. And then again, I may not. Depends on my mood, which is often changeable.

So go, and sin no more.

Memes, you say? Just turrible!

*shakes head disapprovingly*

p.s. The sad part of it is, me and you might have been nukkas if you weren't such an evil anti-Q troll and pushy, insulting vax pimp. You do have good qualities.

Signed, Bagster the Magnificent

PHD Human Behavioral Studies, University of Life

That is the arrest warrant with the grand jury papers. I am bro quoting the DOJ. And if I recall you used to post a lot of DOJ stuff.

As for me, I consider her being arrested as a badge of honor and a horrible injustice perpetrated by the enemies of America.

You see it as a black mark against her reputation which you seem to imply is the motive for her bucking the 'medical community' and 'medicine', and 'boards', her being a wild-eyed INSURRECTIONIST and all around bad guy. And maybe even a Nazi.

Never mind the actual facts and information she renders.

I guess we just see the overall situation differently, which accounts for your willingness to tow the derp state line and pimp their unnecessary and likely dangerous vax.

Its a worldview thing, I think.

pro tip: Mine is correct. Yours is naive and, dare I say, ignorant (in the true meaning of the word).

#WithAllDueRespect

You saw I was delighted? You sure are extra sensitive** about Dr. Gold. Are you related or something?

~~Reread what you wrote...You were snarky, smarmy, and gloating. And it is all over BS, but you posted it and passed it along.

~~Know what, I am not perfect and I have gone back and corrected posts where I shared misinformation...But you are perpetrating the fraud.

~~No I am not related...Frankly, I would not be ashamed if I were. I think she is being unfairly maligned here and her support for Hydroxychloroquine and President Trump last year was very important. She is more aligned with Freepers which is why I found your comments and some others surprising...

~~She has been silenced and maligned for it by the medical complex. It is really disappointing to see it happen here...If a person does not agree with the science, fine, but to defame people with falsehoods is wrong...and does not advance information.

2* things really irritate me...

1. People foisting opinion as fact—no substantiation—just throwing out false or misleading statements.

2. People being censored.

3.* Bonus—people misusing Breaking News Sidebar—either to report what they ate for breakfast type stuff or not posting truly important stories on the Sidebar.

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If the whole demon, GYN, alien thing is true, my post certainly showed I don’t take it seriously.

~~But you passed it along...

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Nice try (not).
That’s not exactly how Libel works for public figures.

~~No she could not sue you for liable as she is public figure, but point you are libeling/defaming her with false information...when the issue people have with her is she is spreading false information...Sorry you don’t see the irony.
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Your attempts to scare me into silence regarding anything negative in all things Dr. Gold really falls flat.

~~LOL talk about being “extra sensitive**”...I am not trying to scare you...Just get you and the cadre of haters to think...maybe come off your smug high horse. As you post incorrect information, you are really doing what she is being accused of~~spreading false information something that is wrong...That was the point.
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~~Rumors are started—sure I mentioned that...But then they are passed along on the internet—ever heard of term “going viral”...I have posted on Dr. Gold facts with links on previous threads and posted to the facts on this thread. Oh, and there is this function called search—I often use it before I post so I get facts right...Not spread false information.

~~No idea what you mean about “evidence for good Doctor to use and show harm was done...She supported using Hydroxychloroquine—she supported Trump...Harm not done...at least not by her.

~~Goodness gracious, no one is going to sue you...It was the point that you are posting false information defaming someone...Rather than think...Eh well maybe i should be a little more respectful, you are focusing on a non-existent lawsuit?

In closing.........I don’t know this Dr. Gold from any internet Doctor.

I don’t really care if she’s creditable or not.
Because I don’t take people seriously that put themselves out there in the internet world making claims.

~~That is your choice...I don’t take everything seriously that I hear/read—but I cherish the opportunity to be able to evaluate all sides.

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Dr. Gold is on the outside looking in.
She doesn’t have hard data from any vaccine manufacturer and she doesn’t process samples to conduct her own research and evaluations.

~~No one has hard data...not you, not me. It will not be made public until studies end—and they are on going—If you chose to participate, thank you.

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But she does have internet followers.
Just like Kim Kardashian.

~~I don’t know how she could have internet followers when she has been banned from Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, etc.

Anyway, gardeners gotta go garden.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

“ Say. What does ‘emergency medicine’ got to do with the covid and vaccines, anyway?”

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Very few things but big things.
An adverse allergic reaction.
Heart Attack, Strokes. That kind of stuff.

I do Not and have never commented with any knowledge of virology, biology, immunology, or Lab findings either for or against vaccinations.

I have a very basic understanding in those fields.

I do know what a normal CBC would be and what abnormal would indicate.
But that’s it.

I stay in my wheel house.

The comments I make that seem to set some people off are primarily their sources, and stats.

Any time I speak of Fauci it’s negative.
I have throughout this event been ignoring him.
I have never watched an interview with Fauci. The only time I heard him speak is when Trump had pressers and asked him to comment.

I knew right away Fauci was not trustworthy. And since President Trump started Operation Warp speed, Fauci wasn’t involved, Trump placed a respected pro Trump Admiral in charge, removing Fauci from the task (and Brix).

That probably rubbed Fauci the wrong way as it was then he began his media-blitz-love-fest.
Fauci spent his whole career as a fraud/con ready to happen, and we see he did.

I don’t know how many times I’ve said it, but in my opinion, people over 70 years of age with Lung, Heart or Diabetic issues should get vaccinated.
That’s as far as I go with an “endorsement”.

That’s hardly pushing a vax.

The vaccines are a choice and should remain that way.
I think it will be interesting if court action is taken against companies forcing their employees to get vaccinated. I look forward to employee victories.

I’m totally against forcing any medical treatment on anyone.
It opens a very ugly situation and can be used for horrible purposes.

I’m also against any type of I.D. or “Passport” indicating a person’ s vaccine status or any health status.

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David Chase: “ Yes, I tested the waters. So if I decide to make some interesting post on Parler, I will expect the information to be toyed with. Do I want that? Probably not. But, I might pick out some things to post one day.”

Bagster: “To be perfectly honest, Chase. Nobody cares. The fact that you think anybody does is another strike against your arrogant ass.”

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You pretend you don’t care yet continually challenge my credentials.
But when I say here, I can prove it, suddenly I’m arrogant and nobody cares.
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In closing.........I believe we’re approaching the final months of the living hell we’ve all been through with Covid. All forms of hell too. Government, uncertainty, family, friends, even the virus itself.
As if the madness of Covid wasn’t enough, the election insanity is tossed in with it.
I believe many people have reached the point that I’m at, which is, it’s almost over, I don’t care about mask, mandates, pro vaccine post, anti vaccine post, Bill Gates, Fauci, WHO, or the CDC and VAERS.

I’m just here for the atmosphere.
Perhaps the next big thing, the next conspiracy, I’ll be all in it. I’ll spent every waking hour all about it.
Or not.

Have a great day.
I feel like you Southern Californians.
We desperately need rain here in Northern Michigan. Another day in the 90s. It’s unusual.
Must be Global Warming or Racism. One or the other or both.

I do Not and have never commented with any knowledge of virology, biology, immunology, or Lab findings either for or against vaccinations.

Yea, that's the thing. I 'questioned your credentials' because I know exactly what you are and exactly what you know. And what you don't know.

Which is why I find it puzzling that you can comment on the quackery of highly educated and highly trained experts in the field under discussion, virology and immunology. Which is NOT your field of expertise. Though you initially passed yourself off as one having 'medical knowledge', which you portrayed as making your opinion more valid than others.

So you see. I REALLY don't care about your credentials, once having a basic understanding of them. Because they are irrelevant. Ya dig?

The comments I make that seem to set some people off are primarily their sources, and stats.

No. The comments that 'seem to set some people off' are those snide, mocking, condescending remarks and too big for your britchery slams on 'sources' and stats. And this: I’m just here for the atmosphere. Perhaps the next big thing, the next conspiracy, I’ll be all in it. I’ll spent every waking hour all about it. Or not.

See, I know right now you're trying to be cool and reconciliatory, but you just can't help slipping in a condescending slam. Its your nature. Just like I got my nature, so I understand completely.

Just know that people who actually have brains and have thought things out after looking at what evidence they can get their hands on don't much like to be dismissed as 'conspiracy theorists' or nutjobs just for seeing things that others don't or differently than the accepted and approved 'narrative' (which more often than not is conditioned in by outside forces-derp state).

So, there. Now you know why you have received a rude welcome by many, in case your act was innocent and not purposeful (which I suspect it is...purposeful, that is).

The good news is, you're not alone. There are plenty of your cohorts on FR who act just as you do, and most of them are way more nastier than you. You can feel the hate ooze off the page.

So the reason I'm taking the time out of my busy meme making schedule to actually try to get through to you is because I sense a spark of humanity festering deep within you, yearning to break free.

Let's see what happens. I do enjoy my memery and I ain't afraid to use it. Just in case.

Okay, so you're not with Fauci, but you're all in on the vax. I'm not sure there's much of a difference there. If you believe Fauci to be a fraud, then you MUST believe there's something wrong with the whole vax program. You can't have one without the other, in my professional opinion.

So, anyway. Straighten up and fly right. And THINK.

But above all else........

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