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Caught in a 'pickle,' tens of millions of Americans might not have had an adequate response to the Covid-19 vaccine
CNN ^ | June 4, 2021 | Elizabeth Cohen

Posted on 06/04/2021 2:03:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Vaccines never tested in people with immune deficiencies

While there's no clear number of how many Americans are taking medications that might prove to be a challenge for the Covid-19 vaccine, a new study can help give an estimate. In a paper published last month, Dr. Beth Wallace, a rheumatologist and her team at the University of Michigan, looked at a database of more than 3 million Americans to see how many took immunosuppressants. Based on that data, Wallace estimates that about 60 million Americans are taking immunosuppressants that could interfere with the vaccine.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: bethwallace; chinavirusvaccine; ditgs; elizabethcohen; gasbag; immunosuppressants; medications; xinn; xisnewspuppets
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To: BenLurkin

A JHU study done in late winter/early spring showed that transplant recipients who take one of the most commonly prescribed immunosuppressants seldom produce antibodies from the first dose of the mRNA vaccines.

A follow-up study showed that transplant recipients fair better generally after the second dose, but in the follow-up, I did not see the numbers broken out specifically for this one type of medication. This leads me to believe that the results for it were equally as poor for the second dose.

I haven’t seen similar research for the J & J vaccine. If anyone has, ping me, please.


61 posted on 06/04/2021 8:50:01 PM PDT by sitetest (Professional patient; no longer mostly dead.)
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To: gas_dr; bagster; Jane Long; ransomnote; Cathi

It matters not whether she is respected. What matters is if she is accurate.

So, you are aware that Fauci had knowingly been funding bioweapon research in China and sought to cover it up.

Faux-Xi got letters from MDs all over about treatments that worked and covered them up.

Faux-Xi admitted in a letter masks don’t work, but without an emergency, there could be no emergency use authorization of teh jabs.

There was a guy who orchestrated the early Lancet article calling the coof a natural virus; and he went so far as to avoid getting anyone in the gain of function community to sign the letter to avoid suspicions.

A Chinese scientist getting funding from the US filed for a patent on a coof “vaccine” shortly after the virus emerged.

There is a high-ranking defector from China who has been singing like a canary, but the DIA had to keep him from the FBI and CIA.

There are now studies showing that one of the “ineffective” treatments improves survival of coof patients on ventilators by 200%.

And your only response is character assassination, because “not well respected”.

The Coof was a Chinese bioweapon designed and release in cahoots with US politicians in order to take down the US economy and allow massive voter fraud to take out Trump as President.

All of the “Official” sources have been knowingly lying through their foul teeth about it — whether through blackmail, bribes, or implicit or overt threats of losing acreditation or funding, or by not getting invited to the cool kids cocktail parties in DC.

The jabs have killed more people than mass shootings in the US with assault rifles. And more than all other vaccines put together.

Something just doesn’t add up.


62 posted on 06/04/2021 8:56:12 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers; gas_dr
It matters not whether she is respected. What matters is if she is accurate.

Thank you.


63 posted on 06/04/2021 9:01:06 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: grey_whiskers

“ A Chinese scientist getting funding from the US filed for a patent on a coof “vaccine” shortly after the virus emerged.”
———————————————————————

That has not been verified.
If that were true, then why didn’t China sell the already made vaccine?
There was no vaccine when it hit the U.S.

Italy and the U.K. got hammered by the virus but China had a patent and didn’t make and sell the vaccine for profit?


64 posted on 06/04/2021 9:04:00 PM PDT by David Chase
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To: David Chase

...filed for.

Incidentally, speaking of “not been verified”:

neither has the safety and efficacy of any of your precious jabs.

Troll.


65 posted on 06/04/2021 9:06:38 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: BenLurkin

Not Your Guinea Pig


66 posted on 06/04/2021 9:13:42 PM PDT by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done things in my life I'm not proud of. And the things I am proud of are disgusting.")
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To: bagster; grey_whiskers; Freedom56v2; gas_dr; ransomnote

It matters not whether she is respected. What matters is if she is accurate.


So true.

The VPs don’t deal with the accuracy of any of these good and REAL doctor’s....only with pitiful attempts at smearing them.

Her training, certifications and ACTUAL patient care background put these keyboard Kildare’s to shame.

How some of these supposed Med “experts”/FFRoctors have so much time to push these biological agent shots, on a chat forum, while “saving lives”, is telling.

Stay tuned, for the next pathetic episode of The Shot “Docs” 💉

😂😂🙃


67 posted on 06/04/2021 9:18:11 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: gas_dr

“Ivermectin hoax”. Fraud. Provocateur.


68 posted on 06/04/2021 9:19:51 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: gas_dr
I sent you this yesterday:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.28.21258012v1

Introduction This observational study looked at 255 COVID19 patients who required invasive mechanical ventilation (IMV) during the first two months of the US pandemic. Through comprehensive, longitudinal evaluation and new consideration of all the data, we were able to better describe and understand factors affecting outcome after intubation.

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Results By discharge or Day 90, 78.2% of the cohort expired. The most common pre-existing conditions were hypertension, (63.5%), diabetes (59.2%) and obesity (50.4%). Age correlated with death. Comorbidities and clinical status on presentation were not predictive of outcome. Admission markers of inflammation were universally elevated (>96%). The cohort’s weight range was nearly 7-fold. Causal modeling establishes that weight-adjusted HCQ and AZM therapy improves survival by over 100%. QTc prolongation did not correlate with cumulative HCQ dose or HCQ serum levels.

Are you going to deny it to your patients?

69 posted on 06/04/2021 9:25:29 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I’m more interested in Demonic GYN dreams and Alien DNA to cure Covid.

I don’t know who this woman is but damn she drops so mighty powerful 4-Way-Blotter-Acid.

If she thinks it’s difficult to tell people to get an mRNA vaccine, imagine when she tells them XTARI from the Rezuzus Star System is gonna inject them with his DNA. With a side effect of GYN issues...........


70 posted on 06/04/2021 9:29:48 PM PDT by David Chase
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To: David Chase; ransomnote; Jane Long; bitt; bagster; numberonepal; Cletus.D.Yokel; Cathi

No matter how much you scramble, dance, and deflect, you won't be able to get away from the Faux-Xi emails and the Chinese bioweapon research.

71 posted on 06/04/2021 9:37:15 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: David Chase; grey_whiskers
Incidentally, speaking of “not been verified”:

neither has the safety and efficacy of any of your precious jabs.

Neither has your male nurse license or your ghetto credentials.

Troll.


72 posted on 06/04/2021 9:44:55 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: gas_dr; ransomnote; Jane Long; bitt; bagster; numberonepal; Cletus.D.Yokel; Cathi
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/defendants/gold-simone-melissa

Here is the DOJ statement

And now you're quoting the DOJ as a reliable source, about Jan. 6 in DC, ...ON FREE REPUBLIC?

Res ipsa loquitur.

Troll.

Spin & Dance all you want, you're not getting away from the Faux-Xi emails and the Chinese bioweapon.

73 posted on 06/04/2021 9:45:02 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

@ post 62 - Great post!


74 posted on 06/04/2021 9:56:32 PM PDT by week 71
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To: David Chase
If she thinks it’s difficult to tell people to get an mRNA vaccine, imagine when she tells them XTARI from the Rezuzus Star System is gonna inject them with his DNA. With a side effect of GYN issues...........

That's more reliable than either the politicized/weaponized DOJ (who one of your fellow trolls quoted with love lights in his eyes), OR the funder of the Chinese bioweapon program, Tony Faux-Xi.

BTW, did you see where Newsweak (wholly owned by the Trump family and Congresswomen Marjorie Taylor Greene, amirite?), quoted a Chinese news source as saying China should prepare for a nuclear war with the US if the US pushes forward on investigating all this as it relates to China?

China doesn't normally jump to threatening nukes right off the bat. And they already OWN the Biden family. What has them so rattled, troll?

75 posted on 06/04/2021 10:06:09 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Jane Long
The VPs don’t deal with the accuracy of any of these good and REAL doctor’s....only with pitiful attempts at smearing them.

Its how they do. A little tactic they picked up along the way.


76 posted on 06/04/2021 10:08:40 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: dynachrome
She was fired, too.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


77 posted on 06/04/2021 10:36:53 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: David Chase

Oh. Wow. No kidding.
I didn’t hear about that.

While in jail, instead of dreaming about demons, she can dream about Bubba giving her GYN problems.........

#CellMatesForever


David Chase, just to set the record straight:

Dr. Gold was in DC for the 1/6 capitol incident as a Trump supporter. Are you a Trump supporter? She like many Trump supporters mistakenly thought they were allowed to enter the Capitol because they were being motioned in by capitol police and the magnetic door locks were opened from the inside. (video is available confirming these facts).

I know for a fact of at least one Freeper who was in DC for the event. I suspect there were many. Regardless of DOJ “Trumped (yes, deliberate pun) up” charges (boiler plate—probably everyone that was in the building charged with same—except the insurgents that did damage to windows, etc.), I suspect she will only be sentenced for trespass as I have read most were.

Frankly, I wonder if you or I had been there, would we have gone in the capitol. You know the saying: There but for the grace of God go we...

Regarding your other drivel, Dr. Gold NEVER said any that—IN doing research for truth, I found that another doctor in Washington did, not Dr. Gold. Unfortunately, this is how internet rumors start...Like the children’s game of telephone. I do wish people pushing these falsehoods would own up and correct the record...

You seem to find Dr. Gold’s capitol charges very amusing and delightful that she might serve time...Well I have a word for you: Libel

Libel is a false published, written statement damaging a person’s reputation. Some states combine libel and slander claims under the umbrella term “defamation.” Other states still distinguish between the two, requiring the appropriate civil suit for the respective offense.

You are committing it on your post.


78 posted on 06/04/2021 10:55:35 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (If I wanted to live in China, I would move there!)
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To: week 71

3 things:

1. Wow completed Med School at age 23?! Didn’t know.

2. She was with the MAGA crowds at the Capitol on Jan 6. She went into the capitol building...So depends on the definition of “insurrectionist.” Trump was accused and they attempted to charge him with insurrection, so maybe she was in good company? Freepers were there too...

3. Sadly, false rumors are being repeated on FR that she said things about Alien DNA or whatever...it was not Dr. Gold. Some woman doc from Jamaica? (I think) who is practicing here? The woman believes in Hydroxychloroquine treatment.


79 posted on 06/04/2021 11:09:15 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (If I wanted to live in China, I would move there!)
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To: gas_dr

Her group has made numerous fringe statements —
see AFLD website and compare with other literature,...
it is a large task to fully document all of her fringe theories and statements.////

From what I can see the AFLD website has been taken down by by the cancellists.

As for the other “fringe theories”these seem to apply to her conviction that HCQ works. Thousands of independent observations documented by frontline physicians confirm this.

If you have a problem with something the MD is saying debate the science. Don’t hand us some crap about critics (with an agenda?) or some rectal exam minutia in an attempt to discredit the entire story. Because after a year of hearing politicized crap about covid guys like you do not impress me.

If you profess to practice the art and science of medicine tell what you believe, why you believe it, and give evidence. Otherwise to me you’re just a valve twister.


80 posted on 06/04/2021 11:21:16 PM PDT by Ceebass (USA RIP 1776-2021)
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