Posted on 05/14/2021 1:24:03 PM PDT by Paul46360
š¤” Covid: 1 death is too many.
š¤”Vaccine: 1 death isn't enough to be concerned about.
š¤”Covid: This virus can cause severe side effects. Though rare, we must not turn a blind eye and we must take it seriously as we don't know who will be severely affected.
š¤”Vaccine: Severe side effects are possible but so rare. Please don't pay attention or let anti-vaxxers scare you away from vaccinations. We don't have any way of knowing who will be affected, but it's a risk we must be willing to take for the good of society.
š¤”Covid: Though you may have survived Covid with no issues, weĀ·re unsure of any side effects that could take place in the long term or later down the road. This is serious.
š¤” Vaccine: You survived your vaccine and you're fine. Anything that happens down the road is not associated with the vaccine.
š¤”Covid: Man has a heart attack after being diagnosed with Covid. Though most likely rare, we now know Covid can cause heart attacks!
š¤” Vaccine: Boy has seizures after receiving the vaccine. This is most likely a coincidence and has nothing to do with the vaccine. If it was a result of the vaccine, this is very rare. No reason to be alarmed.
š¤”Covid: Man diagnosed with Bell's Palsy after being diagnosed with Covid. Family says we must take this seriously. Wear your mask and social distance and be afraid.
š¤” Vaccine: 4 people were diagnosed with Bells Palsy after receiving vaccines. While most likely a coincidence, Bell's Palsy resolves on its own, and its nothing to worry about.
š¤”Covid: Believe science. Believe doctors. :honk: Vaccine: I don't really care if you have any science and those doctors must be quacks.
š¤”Covid: HCQ doesn't work, even though tons of doctors are prescribing it and have had success, and even though it's a 50-year-old drug that thousands take daily with no issue. We did a rushed study and a couple of people had bad reactions. It's not safe and we must block people from using it. We donĀ·t know long-term effects and we cannot chance it.
š¤”Vaccine: Please take this extremely rushed vaccine that hasn't had time to be properly tested and please ignore any side effects and don't worry about any long-term effects. The risk is something we must take to help us get rid of this virus. But we also aren't sure if it even stops transmission so continue to wear a mask and social distance.
š¤”Covid: Sorry, I don't believe posts and articles coming from that news site and I don't care if youĀ·ve done your own unbiased research. I don't even care about your anecdotal evidence.
š¤” Vaccine: I haven't done any research on my own, but I believe what CNN and MSNBC tell me and I have my own anecdotal evidence.
Thanks, ransomnote!
Sp is mental illness.
*lookS at Mith*
Thanks, Buddha.
You talkin' about this Master Vaxxer?
Or that other guy.
Donāt take it if you donāt want to.
If you want to, then get it.
Simple.
That’s a new way of looking at public health. In the past, when the cure was even remotely associated with reports of harm, the cure was banned.
Numbers are reality.
Gonna let that gem sit there.
I know lots of things, others I have to use my intuition which is based on what I know. For example I know that images are a very old trick for tracking IP addresses. They match up the image server logs with the timestamps on the posts like those displayed in this forum. That's how they know the IP address that made the post . I also know that the bagster image originates from imgur. I use my intuition based on what I know to infer that imgur is a CIA black operation. I know that bagster is a useful idiot. Maybe. That last one is unknown.
I will, scheduled for next week. But I promise you this. My card will never be displayed to anyone. The assisted living will pressure me to show the paper card "for their files". I won't. My employer may want to see the card. I woni't show it to them. I will however tell them I was vaccinated because that's probably going to be necessary to keep my job. Paper cards are of course already available on eBay.
Also if they decide to use PKI-based vaccine passports I will make sure that I create a self-signed root cert with my own private key to sign my own certificiate authority and use that to sign my passport (which will obviously have my name since I will create it). It may fail because my root or my CA won't be in the very large list of allowed CAs. But it will be an interesting experiment to see how a large CA infrastructure will work out. For example it's pretty clear that any municipal authority, no matter how corrupt, will be able to cryptographically sign passports. Or probably any CVS. Those CA private keys could easily be misused (I won't do that, but other people will).
Finally there's the possibility of a centralized database or a federated database of vaccinated individuals. Hopefully we don't get to the point where people will have to show an ID and be looked up in a federal database. I don't have way to get around that. It would be an abominnation.
I think the vaccines do not contain any aborted baby material. But aborted baby tissue was used in developing and testing them. So the moral objection is still valid.
Compared to what? What's the mortality among unvaccinated?
Link 4 is your vanity of VAERS reporting numbers. You did a good job with the graphics. Your anecdotes are fair. I said all along that risk from the vaccine is almost exactly the same as the risk from COVID itself, but scaled. We don't have numbers for the scaling but they will come out eventually and be verifiable. The 93 year old who got his vaccine then "lost his will to eat, drink, or live" is not surprising. There's no question there are more of those people. I didn't see any at the assisted living where everyone was cajoled into getting vaccinated, but it's a small sample (only 60 people).
But there's no doubt that the COVID vaccine is way more serious than a flu shot. But the numbers need to be validated. I don't think your comparison of rates "A" and "B" is validation, particularly when looking at lots of coincidental reports in "A". Yes, the 93 year old is quite possibly not coincidence. But there are a lot of 93 year old deaths that are coincidence and some of the reports even say so and say they felt obligated to report it regardless.
Extrapolation of "1%" reporting rates to assume there are 100 times as many events as shown in VAERS is sketchy. The main problem is you did not filter out or in any way estimate the coincidences. You have provided no numbers for the rate of strokes. Specifically, how many strokes are there in 3 million Americans each day. Three million Americans were getting shots each day at one point. You need to go back, get those numbers and rewrite your analysis showing that your estimate (100x what is shown in VAERS) is in excess of normal.
Your fifth link has interesting anecdotes. What needs to be found out in most of those cases is health history particularly the cases with the allergic reactions. They also need the followup past what is written. Many end with treated with X and Y, and that's it. We have no idead of the outcome of the treatment. I appreciate that you put the data into the forum in a table for posterity. There's far too much disappearing data on the internet and we need those records. It would also be interesting to do time comparisons of the VAERS database to see what disappears. I would not surprised to see obvious coincidences removed since they are just noise. But to be an honest database everything should be left, perhaps labeled in another column for easy sorting to remove noise.
Actually, WORSE. ADE sensitizes the vaccinated who can become more severely ill than if they had never been vaccinated. And then the program expects peole to be vaccinated over and over again, compounding their risk of ADE. And you are ignoring other harms caused by the vaccines (heart attacks, strokes, paralysis) that no one is identifying. yes, I know VAERS includes some records of some events after vaccination not caused by vaccination.
Ok, we at least agree that there are lots of coincidences in VAERS although you use the word "some". I don't think your allegation of sensitizing is supported. There are immune system complexities that we don't know about, but in a simple sense there's a double-edge sword aspect to everything in life. Exercise is good and bad. Drinking water is good and bad. Oxygen provides energy but it also oxidizes and creates free radicals. It's more and more true the more complex the system.
Everyone's immune system is both good and bad. It fights off infections but also destroys good cells. That's true for everyone with no exceptions. The only diffierence is the degree of activity. That has many several complex axes, but there's a simple (overly simple) axis which is the immunosuppression to over-active immune (e.g. cytokene storm) axis. They saw lots of young healthy people die in 1918 due to the latter. The incidence of severe COVID is almost the opposite of that. It hits the less healthy people particularly the immune-suppressed.
That fact alone is enough to convince me that boosting the immune system in some way will do more good than harm. However it is greatly dependent on the individual. Also I would note that HCQ is an immunosuppressant. So when it "works" that's because it stopping the immune system overreaction. In fact quinine was a well-known and successful treatment in 1918. They tried to rewrite that history with the war on HCQ.
But then you have to ask what is the outcome data for HCQ against COVID? At best mixed.
Link #6 to your post about J&J (although not specific to J&J). Once again you have failed to provide the control numbers . What are the expected thombosis (lethal or not) in the general population prior to vaccination rollout. The non-lethal is especially important since what you are showing from VAERS is almost all non-lethal. You need to do that next.
First two links are videos. Tired of videos. I was tired of videos 20 years ago and they have only gotten much worse.
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STopped reading here. Run along and bore someone else if you’re too tired...
I have to use my intuition which is based on what I know.
I think your intuition is busted, crazy person.
#AndTheyCallQPeopleCrazy
So, you live in 'assisted living' and have a job.
Pics or it didn't happen.
Let me provide the studio audience with the Cliff note version of your novel.
People took vax. People died.
There will be a quiz.
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BZZZT. FAIL.
Death from the coof is NOT uniformly distributed by age, but is basically like this:
under age 50: zilch
age 50-60: a couple of patients die
age 60-70:0.5% of patients die
age 70 and up: 5% of patients die (and they have co-morbidities like obesity)
This trend is so pronounced, that a doctor on the faculty of Harvard Med School, Dr. Martin Kulldorff, whom one of his colleagues described as one of the top 3 people in the world on vaccine reactions.
He got thrown OFF the CDC advisory committee, for wanting to continue with the JNJ jabs, and not pause them. Got that?
He says that these jabs should be reserved for the over-70 crowd, since they need them the most, AND that they suffer far fewer coagulopathies from the jabs, than younger people. He says there is no medical reason to give these shots to teenagers.
But Pfizer said that they see the injections and boosters as a significant source of revenue going forward, even as they are pushing to give the injections to children as young as 12.
If they mandate the jab, then the employer is on the hook for all side effects of the jab as a workplace-related injury.
This is why employers are starting to run from your little dystopian fantasy.
Kinda like the election.
Now do the checks and balances on election fraud.
Liars bury and destroy evidence, or fake it ("what? like with a cloth?")
You're counting on them to carefully and honestly document their lies.
That's the problem dealing with midwits; the methodology for their work requires them to pay such close attention to false positives that they forget the possibility of false negatives, or of lies.
(The vaccine is politics, not even medicine. Medicine is statistical, not even science. Science is generalization from controlled conditions, not politics.)
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